Ron Johnson, "Putin will not lose. He's not gonna lose."

[Botany]

In the same interview, the GOP senator — the former chairman of the Senate Homeland Security Committee — criticized U.S. sanctions before concluding, “A lot of the points that Vladimir Putin made are accurate. They’re obvious.”

On Capitol Hill, Johnson pushed a similar line. Politico reported:

Ukraine opponents met late Monday evening and came out resolving to delay the bill as long as they can, even if it requires holding the Senate floor overnight. Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) said they will use as “much time as we can” on the Senate floor. “We’re not helping Ukraine at this point in time. We’re fueling a bloody stalemate. It makes no sense,” Johnson said after the meeting.It’s a position rooted in the idea that the United States would go a long way toward “helping Ukraine” if we curtailed aid and made it easier for Russia to win faster.


https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/ron-johnson-rejects-ukraine-aid-says-putins-points-are-accurate-rcna138557

Can Ron Johnson be anymore of a Putin ass kisser? Russia has been getting its ass kicked and
will continue to be beaten as long as the Putin Caucus aka the Free Dumb Caucus and pro Putin
Republicans in the senate don’t block America’s support of our alley the brave people of the Ukraine.

[Historic NY]

1. Coming from Russian Ron , Putins man

[Botany]

6. In 2016 Trump, Flynn, and others changed the RNC platform to help Putin and hurt Ukraine.

This was done after meeting with Russians @ the convention. The Steele Dossier was right Trump
is owned by Russia and so are a # of Republicans too.

https://www.npr.org/2017/12/04/568310790/2016-rnc-delegate-trump-directed-change-to-party-platform-on-ukraine-support


Where was the coverage of that but we did have 24/7 coverage of HRC’s email server.

Btw Russ Feingold was @ >95% chance of winning but Russia was very busy in WI in
2016. Republicans are in many cases are Russian allies and so is Fox News.

[Captain Zero]

41. So Ron's surrendering Democracy in Ukraine

Any doubt he will surrender it here too?
Nope. No doubt he will.

[JohnSJ]

2. They are traitors supporting our adversaries. This election is about good verses evil,

and the party that supported the insurrection and destruction of our democracy is the evil party, the republicans

[Stuckinthebush]

3. "King George will not lose. He's not going to lose."

I'm glad the French didn't have that attitude back in the day.

Ron Johnson is a Putin stooge. Putz.

[Squaredeal]

8. And neither did Adolf.

Oh, wait, my mistake. Hitler lost, didn’t he?

[lastlib]

4. If you like putin, you'll love ron johnson.

(I can't bear to waste good capital letters on these piles-of-crap.) Russia-ron needs to just self-deport to Moscow. Can we apply for Russian citizenship for him?

[William Seger]

49. ... and Free Shipping, too!

[lastlib]

58. yes, I'll go for that!

Thanks for thinking of it!

[JohnSJ]

5. The traitor is echoing the same words from Elon Musk. The U.S. needs to terminate all contracts

with musk.

[Blue Owl]

7. Someone's got Vladdy issues

[Botany]

11. Ron had Russian help in 2016. " Russians suspected of hacking local Dems"

https://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/story/news/2017/01/23/russians-suspected-hacking-local-dems/96965824/

Russ Feingold was @ >90% chance of winning in 2016. Btw McConnell was and still is aware of
Russian hackings of our elections and has blocked any investigations and or corrective measures
to the system. Btw in 2016 HRC won Wisconsin according to exit polls.

[triron]

93. She also won Pennsylvania, Florida, and Michigan.

[Traildogbob]

17. That is great! Well done.

[soldierant]

76. Let me think - Johnson -

isn't that English for Ivanovitch? (I apologize, my Cyrillic is terrible, so i just used more ot less phonetic English.)

[sheshe2]

9. Ron isn't even trying to hide it anymore.

He stands firmly with tfg, Putin and Russia…and against America.

[Mickju]

19. He is dumb as well as evil.

[Eyeball_Kid]

89. They're kidnapping thousands of kids.

They're killing babies. They're raping women before torturing and killing them. Overall, they are committing war crimes with impunity.

And people like Ron Johnson legitimize and encourage Putin to do more. Johnson is a monster. Like Putin.

[bluestarone]

21. 150 to 200 of them

Aren't hiding it anymore. This rethuglicon party has shown us their true colors for sure. We are also witnessing that 1/3 of our country is falling behind these HITLER CULTISTS.

[TheBlackAdder]

10. Ra-Ra-RonPutin, Russia's greatest love machine. It was a shame how he carried on.

[republianmushroom]

12. Another Russian republican.

They do crawl out of the wood work, when the lights dims.

[Irish_Dem]

13. We can easily see who is on the Putin payroll.

Putin has puppets installed throughout the US government.

[Chi67]

14. Traitor

There is no other word for this asshole.

[dchill]

15. "We're fueling a bloody stalemate..."

Yes, Ron. Yes, you are. Right there on the Senate floor. What a confession.

[Emrys]

91. If Ron and his pals think a "stalemate" is bloody,

they need to look at what Russia has done, is doing and will do to people and territories it manages to overrun.

It's no less bloody.

[sinkingfeeling]

16. And then what will you and your orange lord do when Putin

marches on the Baltics Poland, and then all of western Europe?

[maxsolomon]

54. Putin won't. The slope isn't that slippery.

He'll take territory from any former SSR that is NOT in NATO, even potentially annex Belurus, but Russia will not invade the Baltics or Poland.

[sinkingfeeling]

60. Tell it to Latvia and Poland.

Latvia has much to fear from Putin's expansionist project known as Russkiy mir, or Russian world, which envisions all former Soviet territories as part of a greater Russian nation destined to be reunited under a common church, leader, and language.Mar 21, 2023

https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/03/21/latvia-is-going-on-offense-against-russian-culture/#:~:text='%E2%80%9D%20Latvia%20has%20much%20to%20fear,church%2C%20leader%2C%20and%20language.

Poland and Lithuania say they fear provocations from Russia and Belarus at NATO’s eastern flank

https://apnews.com/article/poland-belarus-lithuania-wagner-7743d53fd33b43a90d07e777fe4e17f9

[maxsolomon]

65. No doubt provocations are possible. They're right to be on guard.

I just don't believe Putin's got the appetite for a direct confrontation with NATO and Section 5. Yes, I suppose that changes if * wins in November.

Easier pickings in Georgia or Moldova, and the aforementioned Belarus.

[PortTack]

66. They are right to fear it. But fear is not part of the equation. Poland is armed to the teeth with modern

Weaponry and trained soldiers. They remember post WWII and are having none of it!

[AdamGG]

87. Russia just placed the PM of Estonia on their wanted criminals list

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-puts-estonian-pm-two-baltic-ministers-wanted-list-2024-02-13/

[Traildogbob]

18. Does the Johnson

And Rand Paul have sleepovers listening to audio tapes of Hitler speeches while watching Pooty bare chested and bare back on a Stallion?
And siting in Russian cash.

[orangecrush]

20. Traitors in the congress

I hope they are being put under a microscope.

[oldinmtdem92]

24. hope so but probably not

congress critters seem to be more concerned with donations than anything else .but the republicans are on the edge of self destruction .they have no platform they are toast.

[Aaeia]

22. Americans have NO IDEA

Americans have NO IDEA how this morass of political ineptitude puts a chill into each & every ally of your country. You are proving that you're unreliable and self serving regardless of all the good intentions I read in DU. As of this moment, I have never been more concerned & pessimistic about the Wests' survival in light of the current American atmosphere and Putin's inroads into American politics. Gods help us all if the Democrats don't win this upcoming election.

[Botany]

27. Don't forget that a vast amount of the C-19 and vaccine misinformation Americans see is from Russia

Russia’s cyberwar on America is unceasing. See Fox News and QAnon.

[yardwork]

30. I agree with you.

[Oneironaut]

64. Well, they're not wrong.

At the moment, the US is the world’s crazy, tweaker uncle who becomes sober for 4 years and then falls off the wagon again.

[Midnight Writer]

23. Remember when Republicans used to scream "Neville Chamberlain!" at Democrats

who weren't tough enough on the threat from The Evil Empire?

Letting Putin take Ukraine is appeasement at its worst. A Russia reinvigorated with foreign conquest is destabilizing for the whole world.

[gab13by13]

25. I get my news from Stephanie Miller, for one source,

she usually has Malcolm Nance on Wednesdays. Malcolm Nance fought for Ukraine and he says that Ukraine will win the war.

[William Seger]

51. I don't believe Russians will tolerate a "bloody stalemate" forever; Putin may not be invincible

In the meantime, Russia's military resources are being decimated for a fraction of our defense budget. They're not likely to be invading any other countries when they're busy in Ukraine fighting a war they can't win unless the West gives up.

[ProudMNDemocrat]

26. RoJo is a TRAITOR to the United States.

Plain and simple where his loyalties lie.

[Wild blueberry]

28. What were you doing in Moscow July 4, 2018, Ronald?

He's never answered that.

[yardwork]

29. OMG.

[brush]

31. The bill has passed and in on to the House now.

Concentrate fire on trump puppet Speaker Johnson. Hope Minority Leader Jeffries can maneuver a floor vote with a discharge petition.

[dlk]

32. Putin is our enemy and so are his lackeys

When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

33. Come on Wisconsen.

Vote this asshole out!

[LakeArenal]

55. See post #11

Not only the Russian hacking, the influx of mass dollars from Kochs buying WIRepublican nationalists, John Birchers, Posse Comitatus, then the extreme gerrymandering has put them in almost complete power. In the districts. But….state wide and Federal elections we trend Blue.

[orleans]

84. yeah, when i read the op opening line i thought: ron johnson needs to lose

then i googled...
he won't be losing for a long time

https://www.senate.gov/senators/Class_III.htm

[Oneironaut]

34. Anyone remember the Rosenbergs?

Not saying this for any particular reason. Just wondering if anyone remembers them?

Interesting story, am I right?

[Roy Rolling]

35. Putin's Comrades

[MOMFUDSKI]

36. That 4th of July party in Russia must have

been a humdinger! One more traitor added to the pile.

[Texin]

37. What the fuck is WRONG with these ghouls? I just don't get it.

[sop]

44. None of this makes any sense, it's just mindless contrarianism.

Everything Democrats (and the majority of Republicans before they fell under Trump's spell) historically supported, they're against.

[SergeStorms]

57. And it all began.....

back in the mid-90s with Newt's "contract on America" and the tea party asshats.

I can't be the only person to wonder why Newt retired, but is still the right-wing media's go-to interview megaphone when they have a bee in their bonnet. 🤔
I wonder how much Newt is raking in from Pootie every year. Apparently enough that he didn't want any Congressional oversight into his finances anymore.

[Justice matters.]

46. Greed and power to force others to live their life on their terms.

No matter what they say and want.

[Trailrider1951]

61. I suspect it's a combination of 2 factors

1. Pooty's purse: $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
2. Nearby sixth floor windows.

[pansypoo53219]

38. how did this traitor win re-election?

also stupid as shit.

[Botany]

43. Russian help in 2016

https://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/story/news/2017/01/23/russians-suspected-hacking-local-dems/96965824/

Russ Feingold was @ > 90% chance of winning in 2016. Johnson is well aware that he had Russian
help in 2016 and probably Russian help in 2022 via the planting of disinformation and the use of
right wing media. Btw Wisconsin although it has some wonderful people and liberal areas but it has
lots of gun owning red necks too. Btw I own some guns, …..for hunting…. fish, camp, and like to,
cook brats too.

There was a time when this last comment about Russia and Putin will win in Ukraine would have
ended a career but not any more look @ Ohio’s J.D. Vance.

[pansypoo53219]

86. how did senator stupid win in 2020? but then i worked the 2008 election. gotta vote for all the dems.

[Bluethroughu]

39. That's what Johnson, the traitor, is hoping for.

DOJ???
The GOP is giving aid and comfort to our adversaries.

The Seditious Conspiracy marches on...

[Kid Berwyn]

40. Guy spends Fourth of July in Moscow and now he's wrapped around Putin's finger.

Is the money that good, Ron?

[usaf-vet]

42. There are no American troops on the ground in the Ukraine. Except volunteers. Mercenaries. No USA KIAs.

These GOPrussians supporters and their delusional orange man are willing to sell out our country and our allies.

What happens when russia decides it wants Alaska back as a forward base? To Invade the USA?

What side will the GOPrussians be on?

Will they hope NATO will step up then?

Will they then commit US troops to defend our borders against the invaders?

How do these actions and statements from GOPrussians not fall under the insurrection act?

At least to the extent of being willing to give aid and comfort to the enemy.

I can't believe it has come to this and mainly from traitors who have never served in the military.

[Oneironaut]

63. Yeah, but Russian propaganda says they're fighting NATO ground troops.

Especially American troops. How can Pootie’s propaganda ever be effective in the US if he doesn’t have Putinista butt barnacles parroting Russian propaganda!?

[usaf-vet]

72. Here is my position from an eariler DU/OP.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=18680156

Oh, did I mention Ron Johnson, WI Senator, is a traitor, and maybe the day will come when he loses his seat because he participated in the J6 insurrection and continues to provide aid and comfort to the enemy Putin and the Russian oligarch. Otherwise, he is just a plain old everyday a$$hole.

[dalton99a]

45. How much does Putin pay these whores?

[ShazzieB]

78. Is Putin paying them?

I always thought they were just catering to TSF. We know he luuuuuuuvs him some Pootie, and GOP politicians will do anything Trump wants. And Trump is obviously rooting for Putin to take over Ukraine.

I suppose there could be payoffs as well, but I find it hard to believe that Trump ass kissing isn't at least a big part of the picture.

[Turbineguy]

47. "Dear Ron,

I love the harm you do to the U.S. Keep it up!

Your Friend,

Vlad"

[William Seger]

48. Q: How stupid do you have be to believe that Putin supports TFG and Johnson because...

... Putin wants to Make America Great Again? A: MAGA stupid!

[BootinUp]

50. K&R

[Hermit-The-Prog]

52. Is this getting through back in Wisconsin? Do the voters know about this Putineer?

[LakeArenal]

53. "Goooo Team!"🇷🇺 is what Ron is really saying.

[maxsolomon]

56. The Ukraine War is a stalemate - at best.

It's very difficult to imagine Ukraine succeeding in taking back the east side of the Dnipro, let alone Crimea.

It's also very difficult to imagine Russia completely conquering Ukraine and installing a vassal government.

Russia is not going away. They are not out of arms (thanks, NK & Iran), will refresh their troop numbers in any way necessary, and Putin is in power until his death. Ukraine, OTOH, is running low on arms & troops. Its cities are under constant barrages. The eastern front is a meat grinder.

Johnson is a symptom of the disease infecting the entire GQP. It's hard to imagine the Republicans allowing any Ukraine aid package to pass until after a Biden victory. If * wins, they'll never get another dime. Europe alone can't prop them up.

Increasingly, it looks to me that ceding territory will be the cost of peace - and Ukraine's future security.

[Emrys]

75. There's the overriding fallacy that keeps cropping up, and the current trap:

"ceding territory will be the cost of peace - and Ukraine's future security"

Ceding territory will only encourage Putin and his fellow travellers. It will not buy peace of any description. Look to very recent history for the proof of that.

Why do you think he's so keen on gaining that territory? It harbours rich resources that can be used to prop up Russia's economy and enable it to rearm in grand fashion.

As for "Ukraine''s future security", nowhere in Europe, including Ukraine, will be secure with Putin able to brag to his subjects about Russia's victory over the Western alliance, and that's how he and his media - and the yellow press in the West - will portray any concessions, and exploit it to fuel his next adventure westward.

As long as Ukrainians have an appetite for the fight, we owe it to them not to armchair quarterback, capitulate on their behalf and dismiss their efforts so glibly.

Ukraine was written off as a hopeless cause not worthy of support from the moment Putin launched his invasion. They've earned better than that cheap pat verdict.

[maxsolomon]

88. "Stalemate" is the status of the war - not a verdict.

It matters not if I armchair quarterback. I have zero power to shorten or prolong the carnage. I'm trying to imagine the outcome without being overly optimistic. Last summer was sobering, as is the intransigence of the GQP house to provide more aid.

Putin will spin any outcome to his advantage. That's a given.

[Emrys]

90. "Stalemate" relies on accepting the parameters media pundits have chosen to apply,

as if they were describing plays on a sports field by focusing solely on the goal line and ignoring what's developing on the rest of the arena.

Take a look a Crimea and its surrounding waters. Absorb the progressive deliberate and painstaking attrition of Russian air defences and leadership and support resources, the vulnerability of the Kerch bridge and the ongoing near daily toll on Russian sea power - not insignificant as many of those platforms can be used to launch missile attacks on Ukrainian civilian targets. Tell me the situation there looks like a stalemate, and I'll just have to respond, "That judgement may not age well."

As it is, whatever our regrets about the toll in human lives - and the environment - and believe me I have plenty, every doom-laden verdict any of us express on the outcome plays into Putin's hands and joins the chorus from some compromised US Republicans and their glib fellow travellers to the tune that America is just pouring good money after bad (never mind the fact that most of that money is bolstering US industries), and capitulation had better come sooner rather than later.

Capitulation may feel different for Americans than it does for those of us in Europe, closer to the front lines. We've already been there in the First and Second World Wars.

It's no surprise that the Russian botnets on social media are singing from the same songsheet. Let's not join in.

[maxsolomon]

94. OK, happy clappy from now on.

Never express a sobering opinion lest it aid Russia. Good vibes only. Sunny optimism.

[Emrys]

95. There's a difference between "happy clappy" and taking a measured look beyond the shifting media narratives.

There's a difference between "Good vibes only. Sunny optimism." and wishing that a people who've been doing their damnedest to fend off a bloodthirsty adversary and are currently being left to hang after being given treaty assurances about their continuing national security when they disarmed at our behest and with our encouragement should not have to just give up, take whatever's coming and wait for Putin's next move after that. And the next one.

But if you feel happier spreading Putin-serving lines when doing so can have no positive effect whatsoever for anyone except him, or perhaps you by making you feel like you're being somehow more "sophisticated" and "sober", good luck with that, I guess.

[Qutzupalotl]

59. Sure sounds like "aid and comfort" to me.

And by the way…Russia considers itself at war with the U.S., and says so on their state-run media.

[PortTack]

62. OFFS name a war Russia DID win!!

[maxsolomon]

67. WW2?

They got quite a bit of territory out of it, too.

[eShirl]

69. Rootin' For Putin

He gave his heart to Pootie-poot.

[Evolve Dammit]

70. Cash your checks now Ron. Or does Deutche Bank need to convert from rubles for ya? Traitor.

[Botany]

71. It might not be the money but Putin might have kompromat on him. He knows that Russia put him ...

….. back into the Senate in 2016 and that he got lots of Russian money via the NRA in ‘16 too
but I think Putin has pictures of him with farm animals … goat 🐐 fucker? …. or underage boys
and or girls

[Evolve Dammit]

96. Pee pee tape

[cilla4progress]

73. Tool.

...

[The Wizard]

74. Johnson has been parroting

Russian propaganda for years. Is Putin sending dollars or rubles to Johnson's off shore money laundry account?

[Blue Idaho]

77. Another useful idiot

Speaks up.

[NotHardly]

79. F*ckwad Traitorus Shite says what? dpJFK rolling in his grave over this shite Spermwad.

[Martin68]

80. Traitors, one and all.

[czarjak]

81. White Supremacy

2SPARE2

[Warpy]

82. Ron Johnson, carrying water for Putin

because that's exactly what Putin has said in several of his speeches.

Ronnypoo needs to go live in Russia for a while.

[ThoughtCriminal]

83. The Russian Economy is going to collapse

and with it, their military. We just have to keep Ukraine in the war.

[Bristlecone]

85. He is dog S*** on the bottom of a shoe

How he remains in office is mind boggling.

[Kid Berwyn]

92. Hang RUSSIA around Trump & GOP's miserable necks.