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orangecrush

(30,257 posts)
Tue Feb 13, 2024, 02:42 PM Feb 2024

So, WHO FOUND the Peter Strzok/Lisa Page texts

That derailed the FBI counterintelligence operation investigating Trump's ties to Russia?
There's a lot of info on this, but not specific on who or how these texts were discovered.
Putin had mole in FBI?
"Former Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein authorized the release of private text messages between two former FBI employees critical to President Donald Trump, according to a Justice Department court filing released late Friday night.

The text messages, released to media two years ago, were between FBI agent Peter Strzok and FBI lawyer Lisa Page who were assigned to the investigation into collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign. The two referred to Trump as an “idiot” and expressed support for Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton. The texts have fueled allegations of FBI bias by supporters of the Trump Administration and the President himself."

https://www.quora.com/What-is-Crossfire-Hurricane-and-the-FBI-connection

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So, WHO FOUND the Peter Strzok/Lisa Page texts (Original Post) orangecrush Feb 2024 OP
Released by Rosenstein otherwise the House would release them. WarGamer Feb 2024 #1
Yes orangecrush Feb 2024 #7
If you're curious... I looked it up. WarGamer Feb 2024 #11
Of course they did orangecrush Feb 2024 #12
Reminder that Rosenstein signed off his resignation announcement Qutzupalotl Feb 2024 #2
Now, Rosenstein wants us to listen to his BS in support of asiliveandbreathe Feb 2024 #3
Didn't Cassidy Hutchinson testify to the J6 committee gab13by13 Feb 2024 #4
Sounds like an excellent idea. Bluethroughu Feb 2024 #15
Seems we have a serious problem with the GOP. Bluethroughu Feb 2024 #5
... orangecrush Feb 2024 #8
Are republicans suggesting that law enforcement officers are never allowed to say anything negative brewens Feb 2024 #6
Something is rotten orangecrush Feb 2024 #9
K&R Arazi Feb 2024 #10
FBI counterintelligence head Charles McGonigal...Come on down! Kid Berwyn Feb 2024 #13
I remember that orangecrush Feb 2024 #14
Ghouliani. Bluethroughu Feb 2024 #16
Since Strzok busted up a big Russian spy ring when Putin was running the spies Attilatheblond Feb 2024 #17
This orangecrush Feb 2024 #19
This whole arguement is BS ripcord Feb 2024 #18
... orangecrush Feb 2024 #20
In the present, I'd like to know who cooked up this non-scandal about Fani Willis that is derailing ... Hekate Feb 2024 #21

WarGamer

(18,613 posts)
1. Released by Rosenstein otherwise the House would release them.
Tue Feb 13, 2024, 02:45 PM
Feb 2024
“The disclosure obviously would adversely affect public confidence in the FBI, but providing the most egregious messages in one package would avoid the additional harm of prolonged selective disclosures and minimize the appearance of the Department concealing information that was embarrassing to the FBI,” wrote Rosenstein in a declaration filed with the DOJ on Friday.

orangecrush

(30,257 posts)
7. Yes
Tue Feb 13, 2024, 03:53 PM
Feb 2024

And he got them from where, and what made someone decide to start reading an FBI's text communication with another FBI agent?

There is an espionage technique, I give you information damaging to your political enemy.

You reverse engineer it to be able to claim a different source.

Ala Wikileaks, for one.

WarGamer

(18,613 posts)
11. If you're curious... I looked it up.
Tue Feb 13, 2024, 04:11 PM
Feb 2024

The Trump DoJ was investigating leaks and found Strzok had been leaking to media outlets...

The DoJ supplied 5 months worth of texts to the House and VOILA.



orangecrush

(30,257 posts)
12. Of course they did
Tue Feb 13, 2024, 04:18 PM
Feb 2024

Seems to happen to anyone who poses a serious threat to Trump.

Like Fanni Willis.

Great technique.

Qutzupalotl

(15,824 posts)
2. Reminder that Rosenstein signed off his resignation announcement
Tue Feb 13, 2024, 02:48 PM
Feb 2024

with “Make America Great Again,” IIRC.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
3. Now, Rosenstein wants us to listen to his BS in support of
Tue Feb 13, 2024, 03:03 PM
Feb 2024

Hur's report..who gives an eff..what he supports.or what he has to say..he sure doesn't support America..(refusing to post conversation with Tapper.).

gab13by13

(32,321 posts)
4. Didn't Cassidy Hutchinson testify to the J6 committee
Tue Feb 13, 2024, 03:05 PM
Feb 2024

that Mark Meadows took the Crossfire Hurricane files when he left the White House?

I have a solution if I were president:

Fire Christopher Wray, after all, he lied to Congress about the intelligence leading up to J6.

Replace Wray with Peter Strzok, if the Senate won't confirm him then an acting FBI Director can serve 210 days. Strzok will have 210 days to clear his name.

But that's just me.

Bluethroughu

(7,215 posts)
5. Seems we have a serious problem with the GOP.
Tue Feb 13, 2024, 03:07 PM
Feb 2024

If there are DOJ GOP taking payments from putin, I would not be suprized in the slightest.

 

brewens

(15,359 posts)
6. Are republicans suggesting that law enforcement officers are never allowed to say anything negative
Tue Feb 13, 2024, 03:20 PM
Feb 2024

about a criminal suspect? Trump especially. Trump also thinks "flipping" is wrong and should be illegal. Apply that to all law enforcement and see how that works out. No more drug busts unless they happen to get lucky for one thing.

Kid Berwyn

(24,395 posts)
13. FBI counterintelligence head Charles McGonigal...Come on down!
Tue Feb 13, 2024, 04:28 PM
Feb 2024
Did the FBI’s Charles McGonigal Help Throw the 2016 Election to Trump?

The shocking indictments against the former head of counterintelligence for the FBI in New York raise many dark questions.


Craig Unger
The New Republic, February 1, 2023

In the course of writing two books on Donald Trump’s ties to Russia, the same question occurred to me again and again: How is it possible that I knew all sorts of stuff about Donald Trump, and the FBI didn’t seem to have a clue? Or if they did, why weren’t they doing anything with it?

SNIP...

Much of my material came from FBI documents. A lot came from open-source databases. It made no sense. There was an astounding amount of data on the public record. The FBI had launched enormous investigations of the Russian mafia in the 1980s. They had staked out a New York electronics store that was a haven for KGB officers. They knew that’s where the Trump Organization bought hundreds of TV sets. They had their eyes on Ivankov and other Russian mobsters who were denizens of Trump’s casinos and bought and sold his condos through shell companies. They had to know that Trump laundered money for and provided a base of operations for the Russian mafia, which was, after all, a de facto state actor tied to Russian intelligence. They had to know that the Russians repeatedly bailed Trump out when he was bankrupt. They had to know that Russia owned him.

I’m well aware of the strict secrecy that accompanies ongoing investigations as a matter of procedure. But once the Mueller Report was finally released, it became crystal clear that Robert Mueller’s investigation dealt only with criminal matters, not counterintelligence. Trump had been thoroughly compromised by Russia and was a grave threat to national security. But the FBI wasn’t doing anything about it!

One reason for that may have been that on far too many occasions, FBI men in sensitive positions ended up on the take from the very people they were supposed to be investigating. And on January 23, a bomb dropped: We learned that the latest of these is Charles McGonigal, the former head of counterintelligence for the FBI in New York, who ended up working for billionaire oligarch Oleg Deripaska, a major target in the Trump Russia investigation. McGonigal was indicted in Manhattan on charges of money laundering, violating U.S. sanctions, and other counts relating to his alleged ties to Deripaska. He was also indicted in Washington, where he was accused of concealing $225,000 he allegedly received from a New Jersey man employed long ago by Albanian intelligence.

CONTINUES...

https://newrepublic.com/article/170328/charles-mcgonigal-throw-2016-election

Attilatheblond

(8,877 posts)
17. Since Strzok busted up a big Russian spy ring when Putin was running the spies
Tue Feb 13, 2024, 09:24 PM
Feb 2024

My guess is Putin put a LOT of resources in fleshing out something/anything that he could have Trump use to punish they guy for doing his job well.

 

ripcord

(5,553 posts)
18. This whole arguement is BS
Tue Feb 13, 2024, 09:34 PM
Feb 2024

It doesn't matter who leaked the texts but the fact that they existed at all. Investigators should never be overtly prejudiced against the people they are looking into. These two should never have been on this case and are the only ones to blame for this monumental fuckup.

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
21. In the present, I'd like to know who cooked up this non-scandal about Fani Willis that is derailing ...
Wed Feb 14, 2024, 01:22 AM
Feb 2024

…an extremely important case against Trump? Hmm?

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