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THIS is what's fueling inflation: Company profits for 2023....... (Original Post) riversedge Feb 2024 OP
bad link CurtEastPoint Feb 2024 #1
LINK: CousinIT Feb 2024 #2
That information is false Zeitghost Feb 2024 #3
Net profits for Starbucks edhopper Feb 2024 #4
Gross profit Zeitghost Feb 2024 #16
That is why I posted Net Profits edhopper Feb 2024 #19
You posted a ratio Zeitghost Feb 2024 #21
Starbucks 2023 GROSS profits $24.567B... Think. Again. Feb 2024 #5
And Walmart NET PROFIT was 1/12 of what OP link claims. WarGamer Feb 2024 #12
Price gouging does not equal inflation. Think. Again. Feb 2024 #6
It contributes to higher costs radius777 Feb 2024 #7
But price gouging can not be corrected using... ... Think. Again. Feb 2024 #9
What?! Yavin4 Feb 2024 #8
No, price gouging is deliberate profiteering... Think. Again. Feb 2024 #11
Sure, but there's 'inflation' and inflation. radius777 Feb 2024 #13
Corporations are passing off their higher interest rate costs onto their customers. Yavin4 Feb 2024 #14
The Twitter content creator is being a wee bit disingenuous. WarGamer Feb 2024 #10
Disingenuous content creators have enablers. Igel Feb 2024 #15
wonderfully stated... thank you. WarGamer Feb 2024 #17
What were their net profits in 2022? edhopper Feb 2024 #20
You're moving the goal posts... WarGamer Feb 2024 #22
Also... you might not know this... WarGamer Feb 2024 #23
Isn't Kaiser non-profit? maveric Feb 2024 #18
 

Zeitghost

(4,557 posts)
3. That information is false
Thu Feb 15, 2024, 10:59 AM
Feb 2024

Or at least it is for Starbucks, who's net profit was 1/5 of what was stated in the OP. I stopped checking after that gross error.

edhopper

(37,370 posts)
4. Net profits for Starbucks
Thu Feb 15, 2024, 11:03 AM
Feb 2024

were up over 25% from 2022. And we both know that net profits is just a game corporations play to not pay taxes.
So gross profits is pertinent.

 

Zeitghost

(4,557 posts)
16. Gross profit
Thu Feb 15, 2024, 12:07 PM
Feb 2024

Doesn't count any labor or overhead. It's meaningless by itself for a company for who labor is such a huge expense.

And the number stated isn't even the gross profit number for Stabucks FY23. It's just a flat out lie.

 

Zeitghost

(4,557 posts)
21. You posted a ratio
Thu Feb 15, 2024, 01:29 PM
Feb 2024

And yes profits were up from 22 to 23, but fell by about the same amount from 21 to 22.

But my main issue is the OP is absolute horseshit.

 

Think. Again.

(22,456 posts)
5. Starbucks 2023 GROSS profits $24.567B...
Thu Feb 15, 2024, 11:09 AM
Feb 2024

... a 12.01% increase from 2022.

From: https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/SBUX/starbucks/gross-profit.

There OP does not refer to net profits as you have implied.

 

Think. Again.

(22,456 posts)
9. But price gouging can not be corrected using... ...
Thu Feb 15, 2024, 11:19 AM
Feb 2024

...inflation correction methods.

If we're going to discuss the causes of and cures for high prices, let's be sure to use true information.

 

Think. Again.

(22,456 posts)
11. No, price gouging is deliberate profiteering...
Thu Feb 15, 2024, 11:22 AM
Feb 2024

...that is not based on uncontrollable market forces.

Attempting to relieve consumers from price-gouging by using standard inflation reduction methods such as interest rates hikes, etc, only allows the profiteers to continue gouging while putting additional burden on taxpayers and consumers.

radius777

(3,921 posts)
13. Sure, but there's 'inflation' and inflation.
Thu Feb 15, 2024, 11:33 AM
Feb 2024

When regular people talk about 'inflation' they mean 'prices are high everywhere, costs are going up' which is some mixture of real textbook inflation (as economists measure it) and price gouging by big corps who have also used the 'supply chain issues' excuse and other pandemic related excuses (some real, some not) to raise prices.

 

Yavin4

(37,182 posts)
14. Corporations are passing off their higher interest rate costs onto their customers.
Thu Feb 15, 2024, 11:56 AM
Feb 2024

They can do this bc industry consolidation makes this possible. For example, all streaming services raised their prices simultaneously without any loss in profits.

WarGamer

(18,613 posts)
10. The Twitter content creator is being a wee bit disingenuous.
Thu Feb 15, 2024, 11:20 AM
Feb 2024

All those numbers listed are for GROSS PROFIT in 2023.

GROSS PROFIT is simply revenue minus cost of goods sold.

NET PROFIT is the profit after all expenses, like rent, taxes, infrastructure, utilities, legal and administrative costs, etc...

In 2023, Starbucks had a NET PROFIT of $4.1B.

Again... content creators will always stretch the truth to generate clicks or interest.

Frankly, I'd block that content creator for being dishonest.

Igel

(37,535 posts)
15. Disingenuous content creators have enablers.
Thu Feb 15, 2024, 12:02 PM
Feb 2024

Those willing to take what they disingenuously and falsely created as truth. Often without viewing it with a critical eye because it's something that they want to believe or fits their biases.

edhopper

(37,370 posts)
20. What were their net profits in 2022?
Thu Feb 15, 2024, 01:17 PM
Feb 2024

I'll save you time, $3.2 billion an increase of 25%

WarGamer

(18,613 posts)
22. You're moving the goal posts...
Thu Feb 15, 2024, 07:10 PM
Feb 2024

By posting GROSS PROFITS the Twitter content producer is being disingenuous.

WarGamer

(18,613 posts)
23. Also... you might not know this...
Thu Feb 15, 2024, 07:22 PM
Feb 2024

but 58% of Starbucks Net Profit is returned to shareholders as a DIVIDEND.

And there is no such thing as Mr. Starbucks.

Starbucks is publicly owned, ownership is divided into 1.14 billion little pieces called SHARES.

Everyone who owns a SHARE of Starbucks gets a DIVIDEND payment every quarter.

Approximately 75% of those shares are held by Institutional investors.

The largest shareholder of STBX shares is Vanguard, the giant mutual fund company at 9%.

The second largest holds 7% and the third just 4%

CALPRS, the mega size California investment fund for retired gov't workers including police officers, fire fighters, school teachers and DMV workers uses the profits from holding Starbucks stock to pay benefits.

Bottom line, there IS NO Mr. Starbucks on top of the Golden Mountain making billions per year from Starbucks stock.

Even the FOUNDER of Starbucks, Howard Schultz holds around $2B in stock in total.

maveric

(17,044 posts)
18. Isn't Kaiser non-profit?
Thu Feb 15, 2024, 12:09 PM
Feb 2024

If I’m not mistaken Kaiser is the country’s largest non-profit.

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