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I disagree with Chuck Rosenberg's assessment of the Fani Willis situation. (Original Post) LiberalFighter Feb 2024 OP
Can't stand his condescending sanctimonious speech PCIntern Feb 2024 #1
Privileged White Male Pattern pronunciation. Kid Berwyn Feb 2024 #4
That Caroline Polisi is full of crap too. LiberalFighter Feb 2024 #2
It may be the only way to save the case Beausoleil Feb 2024 #3
Where do you get this? dpibel Feb 2024 #6
This has been discussed in the media Beausoleil Feb 2024 #8
It's the coverup..... JMCKUSICK Feb 2024 #5
LOL. "coverup" PSPS Feb 2024 #7
"Cover-up" JMCKUSICK Feb 2024 #10
I'm baffled by this Mz Pip Feb 2024 #9
The whole issue is now whether Wade and Willis have lied about the relationship Beausoleil Feb 2024 #11
If there's no problem... Then why lie about it? FBaggins Feb 2024 #14
The issue is that dsc Feb 2024 #16
yeah.... edisdead Feb 2024 #12
He is sanctimonious (and not just on this)... hlthe2b Feb 2024 #13
Oh yes. And why is he even providing his views when this is about Georgia law? LiberalFighter Feb 2024 #17
Concern Manufacturers working to sow unsupported doubts and vague uncertainties. Torchlight Feb 2024 #15
But the hearing is what it is along with its consequences and not what we wish or think it should be. n/t elocs Feb 2024 #18

Kid Berwyn

(24,326 posts)
4. Privileged White Male Pattern pronunciation.
Thu Feb 15, 2024, 01:28 PM
Feb 2024

It not only sounds condescending and sanctimonious, it IS condescending and sanctimonious.

Likely perfected his accent in college by joining the right fraternity.

Beausoleil

(3,016 posts)
3. It may be the only way to save the case
Thu Feb 15, 2024, 01:26 PM
Feb 2024

If she's found to have lied about the relationnship she could be removed which will tank the whole case.

If she resigns from the case before that, her team can continue.

dpibel

(3,925 posts)
6. Where do you get this?
Thu Feb 15, 2024, 01:36 PM
Feb 2024

What is the basis for your belief that removal would "tank the whole case"?

Willis' behavior does not change the facts, the evidence, the nature of the charges.

Why would it "tank the whole case"?

Beausoleil

(3,016 posts)
8. This has been discussed in the media
Thu Feb 15, 2024, 01:48 PM
Feb 2024
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/02/15/politics/georgia-trump-hearing/index.html

"If Trump and his co-defendants succeed in disqualifying Willis, some inside the DA’s office fear it could derail the entire case, according to multiple sources familiar with their thinking. The sprawling racketeering case still has no trial date, and Willis and her team are keenly aware that the window to go to trial before the 2024 election is rapidly shrinking."

"It’s unclear if another prosecutor in Georgia would even be inclined to take up the case from Willis, given its political and legal challenges."

"If McAfee decides to grant the co-defendants’ motions and remove Willis from prosecuting the sprawling RICO case, under Georgia law the case would automatically be re-assigned to the Prosecuting Attorneys’ Council of Georgia, a bipartisan collaboration of six district attorneys and three solicitors general from across the state."

It's my understanding that if Willis steps down voluntarily, the case can continue without being reassigned.

JMCKUSICK

(6,017 posts)
5. It's the coverup.....
Thu Feb 15, 2024, 01:30 PM
Feb 2024

I disagree, i think there is one indisputable issue that is front and center now. It is the dispute in start dates.
Mr. Wade has handled himself as well as can be expected if the facts are not on his side. If they are, he's been eloquent in both his testimony and his desire to protect Ms. Willis, not for secrecy, but gor privacy.
I think it's not going well at all.
I am not a lawyer

PSPS

(15,315 posts)
7. LOL. "coverup"
Thu Feb 15, 2024, 01:38 PM
Feb 2024

This is just a smear job intended to work in the "court of public opinion." Having a "relationship" with a co-worker has no bearing on a court case that deals solely with the facts of the case. If there were a relationship between those in adversarial roles in the case, that would be something. But this is just a smear job.

JMCKUSICK

(6,017 posts)
10. "Cover-up"
Thu Feb 15, 2024, 01:56 PM
Feb 2024

What creates the appropriately quote enclosed "cover-up" is not the accusation, it's the response. Either way, in today's world, this is reality and if a lawyer helped them craft their filings, then they better be accurate, and not just technically.
What scares me, is that if they lied, it proves that power creates this arrogance and perception of invincibility is not limited to pervert pastors of politicians lol.
If you are accused of anything, you will have to choose a gight or flight response and Bill Clinton was a perfect example of the flight response. What he did with his lawyers advice only showed how the rich and powerful get to dance around the truth while us regular people get beaten down by it.

Mz Pip

(28,446 posts)
9. I'm baffled by this
Thu Feb 15, 2024, 01:53 PM
Feb 2024

Why is it an issue what he spent his salary on? Plane tickets aren’t illegal. Having a relationship isn’t illegal.

People at work hook up sometimes. If it’s consensual, what’s the problem?

Beausoleil

(3,016 posts)
11. The whole issue is now whether Wade and Willis have lied about the relationship
Thu Feb 15, 2024, 01:57 PM
Feb 2024

They said it didn't start until after the RICO case started. Roman's lawyer is trying to prove that the relationship pre-existed the case.

FBaggins

(28,705 posts)
14. If there's no problem... Then why lie about it?
Thu Feb 15, 2024, 02:23 PM
Feb 2024

Which looks more and more like what occurred

dsc

(53,388 posts)
16. The issue is that
Thu Feb 15, 2024, 03:00 PM
Feb 2024

if Willis gave him a job with a salary of $90k and he spent $45k on gifts for her, then how is that different from her giving him a job for $90k and him kicking back $45k? That is the theory of the defense's case.

hlthe2b

(113,893 posts)
13. He is sanctimonious (and not just on this)...
Thu Feb 15, 2024, 02:08 PM
Feb 2024

It smells of intense controlling levels of misogyny, condescension, and self-righteousness to a fault. Comey projected a lot of that as well.

I don't always dislike hearing from him--sometimes the straight-arrow, just-the-facts manner is reassuring. But, this topic seemingly reveals--or at least suggests-- more about him than I'd wanted to know.

Torchlight

(6,792 posts)
15. Concern Manufacturers working to sow unsupported doubts and vague uncertainties.
Thu Feb 15, 2024, 02:53 PM
Feb 2024

I'm guessing The Farm in St. Petersburg is offering double shifts this week pretending that adults dating warrants the sanctions being asserted.

 

elocs

(24,486 posts)
18. But the hearing is what it is along with its consequences and not what we wish or think it should be. n/t
Thu Feb 15, 2024, 04:35 PM
Feb 2024
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