Obviously, I am not a black person but if I were I would be more than offended.

[madaboutharry]

I really don't know how to explain this but I am going to try. I am getting this uncomfortable vibe of an old racist trope were these hostile white attorneys have tried to portray Mr. Wade and Ms. Willis as oversexed black people. It really is rather glaring and disturbing.
Why these attorneys have taken this approach is obvious. It isn't for the benefit of Judge McAfee. I am certain he is above this. It is for the benefit of Trump and the MAGA haters watching this.

It really is upsetting.

[DaBronx]

1. I concur

And I hope Fani stands firm and really calls their lies out.
The judge is good.

[LiberalFighter]

3. Fani Willis is being very strong.

[LiberalFighter]

2. I agree. I think someone else made that opinion either here or elsewhere.

That needs to be brought up more in the media.

[Irish_Dem]

4. Trump enjoys humiliating and denigrating people as much as possible.

He is a sadist and gets off on it.

He is a ruthless, brutal sociopath who will try to destroy his enemies by any means possible.

ETA Trump is also racist.

[TSExile]

13. It's sickening.

Because he is Caucasian and born male, he can rape, kill, steal with impunity. She's Black, female and Democrat, so SHE'S the enemy!!

[Irish_Dem]

14. Trump: rich powerful white GOP male. Justice system cowers at his feet.

Black female Democrat thrown under the bus and humiliated.
Because she tried to prosecute Trump crimes.

[TSExile]

17. Technically, he's orange, but yeah.

Just the "R" after the name is the ticket. 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

[Irish_Dem]

18. He buys the orange by the bucket.

My guess is that underneath it, he is ghost white.
Even scares himself when he looks in the mirror.

[TSExile]

20. He slathers it on with a trowel.

I don't get why he sees it so bad to be ghostly white. I'm pasty white myself!!

[Irish_Dem]

23. He fancies himself as quite handsome.

He thinks he is gorgeous.
I wouldn't be surprised to hear he has worn make up for years.

[TSExile]

25. I just have one thing to say on behalf of the majority of the female populace...

[Irish_Dem]

30. I know, he is so disgusting isn't he.

[MorbidButterflyTat]

55. I second that

[jfz9580m]

73. Well then just for you TSExile ;-)

Sorry, couldn’t resist it

[RVN VET71]

82. I'll go a step further and say Melania has had to put a lock on her panties drawer

She'd out Fat Donnie for pilfering her underthings but her marital NDA (in lieu of vows) forbids it.

[Irish_Dem]

83. Nothing would surprise me when it comes to Trump.

[quaint]

35. 'cause he is actually ghostly gray.

[Irish_Dem]

49. The more bronzer he uses, I think the worse he must look underneath.

He is covering up that he hs gone from white/white to gray white, like a ghost.

[Danascot]

81. If he wore make-up that matched his skin tone

It would be called "Corpse"

[Aristus]

58. I stay out of the sun, too.

And I still have my boyish good looks at fifty-five.

My late mother-in-law was a sun-worshipper, and she got a face-lift every year or so because of her crepey, sun-damaged skin.

[lastlib]

40. Hell, he even scares the mirror......

I'd be surprised if his mirror didn't crack when he looks into it.

[ShazzieB]

42. I have seen a few pics of him without the makeup.

Taken when he was out on the golf course, where he evidently doesn't bother with it. I don’t want to post them, but you can see them at this link: https://www.newsweek.com/trump-makeup-photo-liv-gold-bedminster-1728985

He does look very pale, and blotchy.

[Irish_Dem]

50. Yes he looks quite different without his make-up.

White and blotchy.

Thanks!

[Mr. Evil]

61. Yup.

ht

[oldmanlynn]

39. Magas enjoy the ridicule and suffering of others

Its not just trump. Trump does this because his base of magas love this

[Irish_Dem]

51. As people keep saying, cruelty is the point.

Actually control and cruelty.

Yes a very sadistic bunch.

[nolabear]

6. I believe they are messing with the WRONG woman.

She is chewing some major ass.

[iluvtennis]

10. Yes, she is. Fani is on fire 🔥

[dlk]

7. It's the Scarlett Letter all over again

How far have we come, really?

[Attilatheblond]

32. That + doing to Fani what they did to Miss Ruby & Shae. Mob character hit on women who did their job.

Part of that RETRIBUTION TSF is always threatening. This is why the white guys are so afraid of him.

Anyone who stands for the rule of law, for fair voting, against mobster Trump will be attacked any way that sick fuck can talk a lawyer into doing. What I don't get is why ANY lawyer would do any of this for TSF.

[ShazzieB]

48. Not just women, black women.

Fani, Ruby, and Shaye all committed the same multiple sins of being (1) African American (2) women (3) doing jobs TSF does not approve of. In his disordered racist mind, that makes them the perfect targets and scapegoats for his narcissistic rage.

To paraphrase AL Franken, Trump is a LOSING LOSER who LOSES and then looks around for someone else to blame and punish for his failures. Since he is a raging racist and misogynist who surrounds himself with likeminded people, black people and women are always in his crosshairs, and black women doubly so.

[Attilatheblond]

63. Yep. Was hoping SOMEBODY around here would notice TSF's bad habit of going after black women in particular

TY

[et tu]

8. so proud of her

maga projects their values (?) on others-
it's just not the same as theirs and they
are lacking~

[SergeStorms]

9. Old racist tendencies.....

die hard in the south. They like to take them out, dust them off, and display them every now and then, along with their old slave tags, cat-o-nine-tails, and confederate swords, and such. It's their "heritage" you see. 🤨

[IcyPeas]

11. This is sickening. And its on EVERY channel.

[capechacon]

12. FWIW, both Wade and Willis are...

....making absolute monkeys out of Trump's (so-called) attorneys that are trying to make them look as if something illicit went on.
Trump's attorneys are asking questions about which they clearly don't know the answers to ahead of time.

It is apparent that neither Willis nor Wade did anything particularly shady.

[eppur_se_muova]

44. That second sentence really gave me a lift -- I flashed back to that scene in "A Civil Action" in which ...

Robert Duvall, playing the role of the companies' defense attorney, is explaining to a classroom full of law students how to be a good lawyer. The scene cuts back and forth to the current trial where the plaintiff's attorney, played by John Travolta, is questioning witnesses to try to prove the company liable. Duvall tells his class

Jerome Facher: [to his class] And one last thing: if you don't know what the answer is going to be, never ask a witness "why". Ever.

In the current trial scene, Travolta does exactly that, and blow the case.

[mtngirl47]

15. I love Fani Willis.

She's amazing!

[Arazi]

16. 1000% agreed. I can't believe the judge isnt also getting more than a whiff of that.

There doesn’t seem to be anything “there” and smells like a massive fishing expedition

[Hekate]

28. Like the Mayorkas impeachment and the Hunter Biden investigations. Fishing.

[enigmania]

19. White males, such as myself,

could learn a lot from Black women. The rednecks know this too, so they demean and objectify them in an attempt to steal their agency.

[erronis]

33. Agree wholeheartedly. I think every one of us should spend some time walking in others shoes.

I don't know how to make that happen, but there should be a boot-camp early in life where we switch places with several other people from different backgrounds. I would have been much improved by understanding other viewpoints and experiences.

[lostnfound]

77. I think Atlanta in particular is growing them that way

Something about that city. Feels like a place where i can glimpse unfettered black power flourishing. I feel more optimistic there than anywhere.

[thomhartmann]

21. It's a "high tech lynching"

right out in the open for all to see. The message from the Trump lawyers is simple:

"If you try to challenge white billionaires like Trump, we will destroy your life."

And they want to make sure that every lawyer — particularly those who are Black and/or female — get the message loud and clear.

[Hekate]

26. Yes it is -- the real thing

[erronis]

34. That is close to what Ginny Thomas's husband said during confirmation

The SCOTUS guy who has been shown to be more corrupt than even Alito and Scalia. (Can't delve back further - my memory banks are being unplugged....)

[Irish_Dem]

53. Oh yes this is a warning to all the other prosecutors and attorneys.

This is what we will do to you.

Destroy you.

[spooky3]

22. Racist AND sexist

Women aren’t supposed to have sex and of course, the man always pays for dates, even when the woman has a high paying professional job.

[Hekate]

24. I turned off the tv. As a human being, this offends the hell out of me. As a woman, you bet it does.

Our enemies (and yes they are our enemies) have gotten awfully good at this.

[Irish_Dem]

54. Destroying people is their specialty. They enjoy it.

[ihaveaquestion]

27. I couldn't watch all of it, but from what I saw her relationship with Mr. Wade

mirrors the relationship with my husband. We never went on cruises, but shared expenses whenever we could and we still do. We still take turns paying for meals at restaurants. Sometimes he's ahead and sometimes I am. It all evens out.

This is normal mature adult behavior and shame on the Trump lawyers for trying to make something disgraceful out of it.

[spooky3]

31. What would we expect from a man who paid $100000 for

A one night stand and who knows how much for a trophy wife? Their side does not understand relationships among equals, as opposed to transactions where one party has something the other wants and must trick or pay them into giving it up.

[Irish_Dem]

56. Yes they assume everyone is a sociopath like they are.

Everything is a con or attempt to make money.

[oldsoftie]

67. 1 NIGHT stand? It was a 90 SECOND stand!

Although I still dont understand the attraction some women have to men with power. At the time, Stormy Daniels could have had pretty much any man she wanted; WHY on earth did she go with trump? Even before he became orange and fat he wasnt attractive.

[spooky3]

68. IMHO, she wasn't "attracted." She wanted money. She saw him as a mark. nt

[oldsoftie]

75. But she got nothing out of it. It was 2006. And it was HIS idea to pay her during the campaign

Maybe back in '06 she WAS thinking about money but after actually BEING with him she just couldn't stomach the thought!!
But then there's the playmate he actually had an longer affair with at the same time; Karen McDougal. Another VERY attractive woman.

[shanti]

29. It truly is sickening

Chump wants to take her down so bad; it's always a woman too.

[calimary]

36. They sure did spend a lot of time trying to explore the in's and out's of

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some “relationship” somewhere on the side.

I felt insulted, too. I kept wondering “would they be treating any male witness like this?”

And I think it was Brianna Keillor on CNN who started out measuring the lining of Fani Willis’s coffin before things got started in the courtroom. Bias much? Whose side were you on, Brianna? Did somebody on donald’s team try to slip you an “inducement”?

[ecstatic]

37. yep. Remember, drump initially accused her of sleeping with a gang member

This is hard to watch.

[BaronChocula]

38. Well, as a black person may I add

Team Rapist is also attempting portray Willis and Wade as incompetent and unethical, a stereotype they know lands well with the type of people they're trying to impress.

[madaboutharry]

41. Yes, that goes without saying.

That is also the entire meme about Vice-President Harris.

[Irish_Dem]

57. When it is Team Rapist that is incompetent and unethical.

They assume everyone is like them.

[AllaN01Bear]

43. oversexed? hem what about the former prez?

i cant say what i want to say on here .

[Irish_Dem]

59. The one who has to hire hookers or rapes women?

And has to import hooker wives from Russia?

There, I said it for you.

[AllaN01Bear]

60. hehe . thanks

[Evolve Dammit]

45. Yes Sir, Yes Maa'm. Fuck that shit. I'm pissed seeing these professionals demeaned Gym Jordan style.

[DaBronx]

46. In thinking about the original post of this thread

I would further say that one does not have to be black to be offended. I think every single one of us, no matter what shade or belief or whatever should be horrified at the treatment of Ms. Willis and Mr. Wade. Full stop.
The racism is on display, a bunch of white dudes and the token woman.
Let’s call it what it is.

[madaboutharry]

47. I agree.

Everyone should be super angry.

[Aviation Pro]

52. Especially Merchant

Who brought her cleavage A Game to this.

Just another parking lot lawyer.

[ShazzieB]

62. I absolutely agree with this.

The racist trope of black people being lacivious and oversexed goes back a very long way:

The belief that black people are sexually lewd predates the institution of slavery in America. European travelers to Africa found scantily clad natives. This semi nudity was misinterpreted as lewdness. White Europeans, locked into the racial ethnocentrism of the 17th century, saw African polygamy and tribal dances as proof of the African's uncontrolled sexual lust. Europeans were fascinated by African sexuality. William Bosman described the black women on the coast of Guinea as "fiery" and "warm" and "so much hotter than the men." William Smith described African women as "hot constitution'd Ladies" who "are continually contriving stratagems how to gain a lover" (White, 1999, p. 29). The genesis of anti-black sexual archetypes emerged from the writings of these and other Europeans: the black male as brute and potential rapist; the black woman, as Jezebel whore.

More here: https://jimcrowmuseum.ferris.edu/jezebel/index.htm

I don't think Fani Willis would be in this position if she and Nathan Wade were both white.

***Warning: If you go to the above link, prepare to be both educated and horrified.

[slightlv]

64. Got pretty sick last night... supper didn't agree with me,

so I'm playing catch up right now. I'm horrified by what I'm reading, but not really surprised. Black women have two strikes against them - they're black, and they're women. Neither one can they have any control over, neither one do they apologize for. Neither one do the Magats ever forgive. All women, btw, will eventually pay the price... black women will end up paying the higher price, racial animus being what it is.

I've heard that this judge is smart, above all the chaos thrown at him by the magas, and I expect will rule accordingly. Whether or not Willis had an office romance has not one thing to do with the Rico case. And, if it did, magas would lose many of their own lawyers on this case.

I'm trying to keep my blood pressure down by writing what I feel in a dull way... but hope you guys know I'm actually screaming my head off internally! How dare they! I am so proud of Fani Willis. I hope she ends up being the first one who puts rump in prison. It would be a small bit of karma rectified.

[FemDemERA]

65. I felt physically sick at their treatment of her and

after listening to those lawyers attack her again and again, I felt very sympathetic to her and angry at THEM. Because yes, it felt VERY racist, VERY misogynistic. Hopefully their treatment of her backfires on them.

[Evolve Dammit]

66. Agreed

[Martin68]

69. Your points are well taken and valid. I just wish you hadn't felt the need to use the word "obvious" in your headline.

It’s neither obvious to us, since wee can’t see you, nor is it relevant. I am tired of people using the word “obvious” for things that aren’t.

[madaboutharry]

71. It's a common thing people say out of habit.

I do get your point. Personally, I try to let other people’s grammatical mistakes and annoying use of vocabulary words slide. Life is short.

[Martin68]

84. Well, obviously life is short. It's also obvious that words have meaning. But, obviously you will continue to use the

word whether or not it adds anything relevant to the point you are trying to make. Obviously I should ignore poor word usage. Obviously my years as an English teacher have made me prone to try to help others with word usage and good writing. Obviously that’s just an irritating habit, so obviously I should stop. Obviously I’m sorry.

[AdamGG]

70. It's for the purpose of distracting from the defendants being guilty as hell

If they were innocent, they could simply argue the facts.

[DemocraticPatriot]

72. Why 'obviously not a black person'?? Other than saying so...

As for the rest, I do not disagree....


I have an odd perception on message boards and blogs....

As a white man, I "assume" ("assume and you make an ass of you and me" or however it goes),

I ASSUME that everyone posting is like me..... unless told otherwise.

Of course that is stupid, and not the result of any logic,
it is just some sort of assumption--- I don't even stop to think it over, really....

Fonts don't identify race or sex, and maybe that is good, I don't know....

???

[madaboutharry]

74. I was thinking about members here who have known me for nearly 20 years.

Obviously, not you.

[JustAnotherGen]

76. I am a black woman

And I thank you for the observation.

It's the "Jezebel" Stereotype.

[fightvision81]

78. I'm a young black man

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And I have reached a point of not wanting to look ahead at stuff like this because I'm already suffering from outrage fatigue.. The former guy has 91 counts of criminality that he's going to 4 or 5 different court cases to be judged for and the attention is on the prosecutor? It's an outrage and an abuse of our judicial system that only the former guy gets to take advantage of.

[Think. Again.]

79. This entire thing is...

....just a sleazy attempt by trump's sleazy shysters to smear and slander the prosecution.

It doesn't deserve the attention we're giving it.

[malaise]

80. You nailed it

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