This is a violation of GoFundMe' TOS. I encourage everyone to report this.

[sheshe2]

Link to tweet

Elena Cardone

Stand with Trump @realDonaldTrump @DonaldJTrumpJr
https://gofundme.com/f/stand-with-trump-raise-the-settlement?utm_source=customer

Without limiting the foregoing, you agree and represent, warrant and covenant.

A. Not to use the Services to raise or establish or contribute to any Fundraiser with the implicit or explicit purpose of promoting or involving:

the legal defense of alleged financial or violent crimes.

...............................

REPORT THEM!!!!
Kennah (13,554 posts)
6. Link for reporting
Reply to sheshe2 (Original post)
Fri Feb 16, 2024, 09:19 PM
https://support.gofundme.com/hc/en-us/articles/203604694-Report-a-fundraiser

[MLAA]

1. K&R

Thanks, sheshe2.

Edited to add:

I submitted a complaint. Took a few minutes to figure out how to do so. Scroll to bottom and select Help Center, then select Trust and Safety. One question that had fixed response didn’t really fit, so I selected fundraiser included false info. Then there was a free form place to add it was a violation of Terms of Service.

[sheshe2]

2. You're welcome, MLAA!💙

[pnwmom]

20. I went there to report this and instead found 12 OTHER GoFundMe's for this purpose.

I'm still trying to figure out how to report them. For one thing, the form requires you to choose a reason for reporting it, and none of them apply.

[IronLionZion]

57. I wrote in the text box that it violates their terms of service and is very likely a scam

[erronis]

79. Any of them started by "John Bannon"?

[GuppyGal]

3. Reported and I'm controlling myself to not contact the organizer directly. nt

[ecstatic]

4. Good catch but let's get real

They weren't planning on giving the money to trump. It's just out and out fraud all the way around.

[skypilot]

18. Exactly what I was going to post.

The only way that even one dollar of the donations was going to trump was if trump himself started this GoFundMe, which would not be out of the realm of possibility.

[bdamomma]

5. sheshe2

hey, where can we report this grift. Geez, there are donations coming in from Canada, What the hell is wrong with them????

[sheshe2]

7. If you click the link under Elena Cardone...

It will take you to the go fund me page. Scroll to the bottom of the page and there is a link to report the fundraiser,

TY, bdamomma.

[Kennah]

6. Link for reporting

https://support.gofundme.com/hc/en-us/articles/203604694-Report-a-fundraiser

[sheshe2]

10. Thank you, Kennah.

Will put that in my OP.

[Renew Deal]

8. It's insignificant

They will never raise enough money to cover this
Let them donate money to pay fines. The more they donate for his fines the less they can donate to his campaign.

Also, the section you quoted doesn't address paying fines. It says "legal defense." Not the same thing.

[Takket]

39. that's how i read it too.........

it is splitting hairs but seems like not the same thing to me. though i would VERY MUCH like for gofundme to put out a statement to all the people issuing complaints to unequiviqually (sp?) clarify that one way or the other.

[BonnieJW]

88. And they won't have enough to donate to anyone else's campaign

The RNC will be giving all its money to tfg. There won't be anything left for all the rest. So sad 😞

[Renew Deal]

104. He may have well achieved the ultimate grift

Last edited Sat Feb 17, 2024, 07:42 PM - Edit history (1)

Steal from a political party.

[jmbar2]

9. Welp, he's up to $18K. However...

The list of donors is interesting... One donor, TrumpisaRapist, donated $5.

[Renew Deal]

11. lol

More bang for the buck than a web ad.

[maryellen99]

13. Another one is ShouldhavenominatedDeSantis nt

[blm]

55. The largest donor, Eric Vevang, is a registered sex offender

[pnwmom]

12. Earlier today, as a JOKE, I posted about Trump announcing a GoFundMe.

I didn't mean for anyone to take me seriously!

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100218693410

[Sogo]

19. Guess who's reading DU....

....and getting ideas....

[highplainsdem]

38. Definitely didn't get it from DU. I posted about the GoFundMe less than half an hour after

pnwmom joked abour one, posting Ron Filipkowski's tweet with a screenshot of Cardone's tweet.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100218693530

And I just checked the time on Grant Cardone's tweet about the GoFundMe. He posted that on Twitter about an hour before pnwmom's post.

[pnwmom]

44. I've since counted a dozen of them, and there's probably more by now, all by random people.

The grifter's attracting grifters!

[central scrutinizer]

80. There's a lot of low hanging fruit in the MAGA orchard

Maybe the grifters will start alerting GoFundMe on each other.

[sheshe2]

22. Thanks for the link and boost!

Grifters, everyone of them.

[bdamomma]

14. Just

reported. Thank you sheshe2

I was just thinking too bad we could start a gofundme to incarcerate him as a traitor.

[sheshe2]

46. Bahahahahaha.

I like how you think.

[dflprincess]

15. Thanks & I reported it.

Who are these saps donating to it?

[Sky Jewels]

16. The more $$ that Maga morons give

to Donnie, the less they’ll give to more effective right wing political organizations. I say let them blow their wad, so to speak.

[KS Toronado]

34. I'm with you, less money going to reelection campaigns

Plus as the years go by and the history books are not kind to Тяцмp and the R party, it might get some
to switch parties, granted it would be years and years away but will happen.

[spooky3]

47. Some Rs polled said if he is convicted they won't vote for him.

I realize this is not a criminal conviction, but a lot of nonlawyers who aren’t following events really closely will likely see this as a “conviction.”

[KS Toronado]

58. Yea, people don't like to vote for losers

But will the RNC refuse to endorse him? If they replace him with Nikki Haley we will have a real horse race
on our hands. Mitt Romney would love to be the go to guy but he's 77 and I can't see him getting the nod.
Тяцмp is still the easiest guy for us to beat I believe.

[spooky3]

61. I agree that TFG will be easier to beat than Haley. We just

need to focus on the general and on appealing to sane people.

[DFW]

63. I think so, too

Tyatsmr is the easiest target we could wish for, although I still think there is a good chance he will not be their nominee.

[CrispyQ]

77. I was taken to task for suggesting Haely would be harder to beat than Trump.

I'm glad to see others see her as a bigger threat too. I will puke & then cry if she's the first woman president.

[KS Toronado]

90. Anybody saying Тяцмp is going to be hard to beat

isn't using any critical thinking skills the good Lord gave us. IMHO

[slightlv]

122. I, too, said Haley could turn out harder to beat than rump.

I worry she could turn herself into a "middle" candidate... especially with all this emphasis on age.

But the first female president of the United States is a position rightfully belonging to a Democratic woman. We're the only ones who have supported women in all their very, varied roles... and tried to help support them to reach further than their dreams. The ultimate in degradation to me would be to see a female Republican take that role. of course, there will always be a man behind the throne for her. R men don't trust their women... certainly not one of color. She would only be a placeholder and figurehead. The real power would come from which ever men are closest to the oval office. JMO.

At this point, I don't think she has a real chance at election. I think they'd rather elect RFK than Haley... just because she IS a woman and a WOC.

[Omaha Steve]

17. K&R

Done!

[WVreaper]

21. Please donate today!

Every dollar that TFC sucks out of money going for Repugs reelection, that's a win for Democrats.

[onecaliberal]

26. I am of the same school of thought on this.

[Mountainguy]

23. Better than not chance

That this is a grift by the ones creating the campaigns. This money is probably going to their pockets just like the build the wall grift did.

[fierywoman]

32. ... Steve Bannon types, in other words! ha-ha-ha.

[Aussie105]

24. It is obvious examples of the misuse of GoFundMe like this

that turns me right off it.
Same for collectors for a worthy cause in shopping centres, unfortunately for the legit ones.

Any big donors out there willing to spend serious money on this, and not risk some of it (or all of it) 'sticking' to the fingers of the organizers?
I doubt it.

I doubt if the originators of the GoFundMe concept had large sums like this, or causes like this, in mind.

[onecaliberal]

25. A fool and his money will soon be parted.

Idgaf where the money comes from. I want him to pay. Those losers are paying the libs their hard earned money. It is hysterical imo.

[WarGamer]

27. up to 24k now... with 587 donors.

That's an average of $41 per donor...

Doing the math...

about 9 million donors will cover the NY bill...

[sheshe2]

29. TeeHee🤣

[SCantiGOP]

30. I just sent a million

[niyad]

64. Is that where my rupees went? I thought you had them in safekeeping?

[PortTack]

28. Tada...reported!!

[sheshe2]

31. Cool! Thank U.

[IronLionZion]

33. GoFundMe is also Trump's healthcare plan for Americans

and Retirement plan too. Maybe this is how Mexico will pay for the wall through GoFundMe

[ThoughtCriminal]

35. Scammers Know

that Trump supporters have to be the easiest marks on the planet.

[LudwigPastorius]

36. _

Thank you for bringing this to our attention. Our Trust & Safety team will be investigating the fundraiser and taking appropriate action. Please note, your report will remain confidential and will not be shared with the fundraiser organizer or beneficiary.

If you donated to this fundraiser and would like to file a donor claim for a refund, please visit our GoFundMe Giving Guarantee.

If you are an individual who should have received funds from this fundraiser, please file a claim through our GoFundMe Beneficiary Guarantee.

For general fraud reports, please note that:

1. We will be unable to disclose any details about our investigation.
2. Personal disputes will be dismissed and should be settled outside of GoFundMe.
3. Your personal information will be kept confidential from the fundraiser organizer.

In addition to the report you have submitted, we encourage you to contact law enforcement officials in your area if you believe someone is committing fraud or breaking the law in any way.

Please do not respond to this email. Our Trust & Safety team will reach out to you directly should they have further questions.

Thank you,

[bdamomma]

110. I received that

e mail response too, hopefully a lot of these responses have been received.

[keithbvadu2]

37. Might be empty, Be generous.

[lindysalsagal]

40. What a loser. Casino gangster needs hanouts? Loser.

[RainCaster]

41. Reported. That POS should be ashamed

For constantly bragging about his wealth, he sure has his tiny hands out a lot.

[sheshe2]

43. Bingo!

He is a fraud and grifter just like the people that surround him. All of them out to make a buck.

[spooky3]

49. When I checked the GoFundMe had received about $24000 in

donations. 😀😀☺️

[RainCaster]

50. The rubes are lining up

There was only $500 when I first looked at that site.

[spooky3]

51. Given that the first few hours probably bring in the most $

I’d say Trump’s going to need to host a lot more garage sales.

[Ford_Prefect]

42. Submitted a complaint. Who knows if it will have effect?

Got a response from GoFundMe same as above.

[spanone]

45. K&R

sheshe2

[sheshe2]

48. Spanone.

[willamette]

52. I followed your links and reported it.

[sheshe2]

54. Thank you, willamette.

[Katcat]

53. Done

And done. “Billionaire” using a go fund me is absurd anyway

[A_Woman_from_MI]

56. Not sure it violates the highlighted TOS...

Nowhere in the fundraising description does she say the money raised will be given to TFG, or applied to his legal fees. I think people are donating for the express purpose of standing with TFG. Whatever that means.

[ProfessorGAC]

98. Which May Fit The Definition...

...of a scam.
Promoting one thing without intent to fund that cause, even if only implicit, is still a fraud.

[Trueblue1968]

59. I reported

[indigovalley]

60. I reported it as well

In my opinion this is a violation of the terms of service. It may also be plain ordinary fraud by people just trying to make money off the situation but claiming its for Trump. If these get attention from the media I hope there is a major effort by people to report them.

[Liberty Belle]

62. I reported it as a likely scam.

I hope everyone here does the same.

[niyad]

65. For some reason, that picture of cunctator* t#### and his shyster cracks

me up. That scowl that he clearly thinks makes him look tough and manly, and that clueless expression on hers!

* get your minds out of the gutter. a perfectly good, accurate, and non-salacious word to describe him, as posted here on DU earlier today.

[sheshe2]

68. The scowl makes him look real tough.😱

However he is seething inside. He knows he is screwed and he is about to blow a gasket. I hope he rots in hell.

[herding cats]

66. I did my thing

I hope it helps. This is truly disappointing.

[GaYellowDawg]

67. Reported!

Proudly reported. Of course, if the fundraiser goes down, he'll just send out emails to his lists of cultists, but at least he may not get money through GoFundMe. It's a shame they can't cancel the fundraiser and then donate the money to a worthy cause.

[Raine]

69. If people are stupid enough to give money to him

I'm not going to interfer, I'd rather encourage them.

[flying-skeleton]

70. A sucker is born....

A Sucker is born every minute in MagaLand and is easily (and deservedly) parted from his money.

[riversedge]

71. Newsweek has an article about this on the web........

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-supporters-start-gofundme-page-355m-fine-1870880

[Maraya1969]

72. This should be spread around, especially since he told everyone that he was a billionaire. What billionaire

needs a Gofundme?

[bdamomma]

73. Morning all

I just thought I would just bring this up, would this be considered as "aiding and abetting" a criminal with a prison number?? Just throwing this out there.

[IronLionZion]

74. Disappointing to see it's still up

$41,624 from 1100 MAGA idiots to some random Florida woman they don't know

and about 12 other similar ones on GoFundMe.

Oh well, less money for them to donate to real GOP campaigns

[IronLionZion]

75. Elena's cats' names are Cash and Flow. You can't make this stuff up

https://elenacardone.com/about/

Typical MAGA grifter flaunting wealth all over the place while asking for money

[dobleremolque]

93. So, wealth apparently is no guarantor of good taste. n/t

[IronLionZion]

106. One common way to get wealthy is to take money from MAGA idiots

[bucolic_frolic]

76. TSF's not looking very presidential or very billionaire-y

Would you hire that mean looking puddin' face to run anything let alone the USA?

[sarchasm]

78. reported...

[SayItLoud]

81. How do we report it? nt

[Oopsie Daisy]

82. I think it's hysterical!! Fools and their money (or something). These donations are symbolic only, and *

* they'll never reach any meaningful amount. (Symbolic of their stupidity, I guess.)

As of right now (11:40AM 02-17-24) they have a grand total of $53,977.

That's 0.000152048% (rounded up to 0.0002%) of what he needs.

WHEN does Trump need to come up with the money? Immediately, before appeals? Or does the appeals-process mean that he can delay paying anything?

My question is how will the donors know that the money will be used for LEGAL purposes? Trump can't even pay his lawyers now, and if he plans on appealing, he'll need money to continue to pay.

Who has control of the money raised? Is it going to be released if the goal isn't met? Who will be the payee? (ie: directly to the clerk or the courts/state-of-NY? Or directly to Trump, relying on his honesty to pay the penalties?)

[struggle4progress]

83. "Donate to our Save the Billionaires fund and get a free thank-you letter

for your gift of $50 or more"

[republianmushroom]

84. trump needs more sheep to fleece after the NY ruling.

Last edited Sat Feb 17, 2024, 02:19 PM - Edit history (2)

He may have found a way.

donald sure doesn't seem happy in the above photo.

Question, Is any moneys given to trump classified as "income" and must be taxed as such ?
Are you watching IRS ?

[A HERETIC I AM]

85. I just checked it and did a little math;

As of 11:50 Eastern they had raised $55,613 in the 19 hours since it was started.

55613 / 19 = $2927 per hour raised.

At that rate it will take 121, 285 hours

- OR -

5,054 days

- OR -

13.85 YEARS to raise the $355 mill!


Best of luck, Trumpy!

BTW, if you go to the search bar on the GoFundMe page and type in Donald Trumpy, there are over 140 fund raisers going on for him!
Granted, a bunch have been up a while and have zero contributions, but still!

Jesus but some Americans are easy marks!

[sheshe2]

86. Thanks for doing the math!

[Ford_Prefect]

92. This assumes the fundraiser is actually for Trump and not just another scam using his name.

I don't know how well the vetting works at GoFundMe on something like this, or just how easy it is to claim you're doing it for TFG without the bona fides.

[A HERETIC I AM]

96. Yeah...no idea.

As I said, there are over 140 different ones naming Trumpy. Well, frankly I don't give a damn. If people are so gullible to give money to an alleged billionaire to pay his legal fees and fines, it's no skin off my nose.

Of course I think there are better ways to spend your money, like giving it to Jose Andres' World Central Kitchen, but I suppose I'm foolish for thinking these types of Christians would actually act in a Christ-like way!

[bdamomma]

111. I second

your post. Nice math summation.

that emoji is for you!!!

[RandomNumbers]

87. I'm almost willing to let the idiots be scammed.

** ALMOST.

But seriously, how fecking stupid would someone have to be?

I know, I know, the fact that we're even having the conversation ....

[malthaussen]

89. I bet he gets more from his GoFundMe than I did from mine. :)

But I just wanted to pay the rent.

This is a pretty blatant violation of the TOS, but DJT appears to have plot armor wherever he goes, whatever he does. It's kind of fascinating, in a train-wreck sort of way.

-- Mal

[moonscape]

91. Up to 60+k now. There are a

lot of these! The publicity gave this one traction - most are at zero.

[republianmushroom]

94. Question for the DoJ'er here, is gofundme monies received, classified as "income" and taxed as Income?

[sheshe2]

95. Interesting question. 🤔

[A HERETIC I AM]

99. Possibly.

Not deductible to the giver but perhaps considered income to recipient;

https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/money-received-through-crowdfunding-may-be-taxable-taxpayers-should-understand-their-obligations-and-the-benefits-of-good-recordkeeping

[Diraven]

97. I guarantee this is a scam

Someone taking advantage of Trump cult gullibility. None of this will make it to Trump but it will waste his followers' money and probably piss them off. I hope they leave it up.

[SeattleVet]

100. She previously ran a fundraiser for Kari Lake.

Here's a lot of background on her and her grifter husband:

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/kari-lake-elena-cardone_n_65c3baa7e4b0dbc806af011d

tRump appeared at one of her husband's 'seminars', and they have a huge real estate portfolio mostly consisting of apartment buildings. They've been in trouble before for their poor treatment of tenants (surprising nobody but the rubes that are donating).

[enigmania]

101. I filed a complaint,

sending email out to get other people to do the same.

[progressoid]

102. There is some good trolling in the comments!!

Tony Macaroni
$5•22 mins
I gave a kidney and my alley baby. I got an MTGfartinajar gift certificate right away. Beat that losers! maga

Logan Guerra
$5•2 hrs
Trump is a wannabe dictator, a con man, liar grifter, rapist and TRAITOR to his oath our country. He is unfit to serve as our president and belongs in jail with his criminal family and friends, not to mention the Russians that fund them. His followers are in a cult. This gofundme is a scam and will be refunded.

robert peterson
$5•2 hrs
Grant Cardone and his wife are noted Scientologists. That is the sort of people who are giving to Trump. Too funny for words.

Cameron Troxel
$5•4 hrs
Oh, I’m getting a refund. No doubt. This fundraiser violates sections A.9, A.19, and F under the prohibited use clause. Just wanted to leave a message for all you racist kid fuckers. Tired of all the winning yet? We aren’t done with you, not by a long shot. Death to Trump, death to the GOP, and death to anyone end everyone who supports this traitorous pile of shit. Come get some.

[sheshe2]

108. Thanks so much for sharing those!

[Vinca]

103. It blows my mind people wrap this guy in Jesus and send him money.

[IronLionZion]

107. Idiots donating money to a supposed billionaire to pay his legal fines

[Beachnutt]

105. How will this fit in with his IRS audit

that is quietly moving forward?
And his lawsuits from the Jan 6th survivors ?

[spooky3]

109. Not sure if this is real, but tweet claims GoFundMe is stopping this

Link to tweet

[bdamomma]

113. Looks

pretty believable. Hey we did it, cut them off. Good. Thanks, sheshe2 for alerting us to stop this grift!!!!!

[Bernardo de La Paz]

114. Good if real, but should be Mr. Trump. He is not President. . . . .nt

[IronLionZion]

115. It's still active and accepting donations

$125,355 from 3000 idiots so far

[progressoid]

116. Yep. Still going!

To be fair, some of the donors are anti-trump and are trolling this.

Victoria Kline
$5•16 mins
I paid $5.00 just so I could say what an a**hole tRump is! So satisfying!!! I can’t wait to see him in jail!!!

Trump Suxdix
$5•30 mins
I can't belive I gave 5 bucks to a billionaire. This is a joke, sadly. Trump don't care about anyone but himself. All Trump had to do was close his mouth, and repent a little. He thinks he is above the law. He is getting everthing he deserves. Anyone but Trump 2024

Sean Condon
$5•1 hr
Hi, everyone! How’s it going! Just donated to leave a message: Your Orange Godhead is rogering you up the chocolate spider and playing you for fools. He’s never done anything to make your lives better, and he holds you in deep contempt. Also, he’s broke. He doesn’t have enough cash on hand to get through this. But he says he’s a billionaire. So, why is he squeezing you for bucks? He’s playing you all for chumps. This guy actually hates every one of you. Like, HATES. But, hey, give the broke-ass clown what money you have while he works to make your lives worse. And remember: Soylent Green is people.

[onenote]

124. I don't think that's a statement from GoFundMe. And there is precedent for using GoFundMe to pay fines.

I think that's a statement by someone who believes that GoFundMe will shut it down. But it's not clear whether collecting the fines in a civil action are covered by the GoFundMe TOS. A GoFundMe effort raised over $250,000for Chelsea Manning to pay court imposed fines for refusing to testify.

[RANDYWILDMAN]

112. NY residents rise up and report this

he ripped off the whole state of New York

[fierywoman]

117. Isn't it that GoFundMe doesn't pay a dime unless the ENTIRE requested amount is donated?

[sheshe2]

119. I don't think so....

However I don't know how GFM works.

[IronLionZion]

120. Not quite. But they do guarantee refunds if it turned out to be fraud

https://www.gofundme.com/c/safety/gofundme-guarantee

Anti-Trump Liberals are donating $5 for these reasons.
1. to leave snarky comments.
2. to submit claims that the money is being misused triggering an investigation.
3. It will be refunded

[SouthernDem4ever]

118. Those moron donors deserved to be scammed

because that's what it is.

[Permanut]

121. Done.

[Malmsy]

123. I gotta 20 says Bannon is behind this scam.

[GuppyGal]

125. All the fucking dummies with their real names up there...they are real easy to find LOLLLZ nt

[Shermann]

126. This does not violate the (badly worded) TOS as I read them

Trump is past the legal defense phase and is into the penalty phase. The TOS specifically bars fundraising for legal defense costs, but not for financial penalties. Words matter (especially when lawyers are involved).

[Dan]

127. Damn, on the donation page, they shut down the comments.

Lots of people were donating $5 just so they could comment on Donny. The comments about Donald were just so funny, cutting and vicious.

[sheshe2]

128. Sorry they shut them down.

Though glad to hear they weren't nice ones!

[Malmsy]

129. Damn. Gofundme has stated that it does NOT violate their TOS.

"A GoFundMe representative told Mother Jones that the fundraiser is “currently within our terms of service”—though the company’s rules prohibit using fundraisers for “the legal defense of alleged financial and violent crimes.” A spokesperson for the Trump campaign didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment."

On the bright side - it won't even pay interest on the fine.

"It's notable that it has raised less than $0.5m in three days. That won't even cover the interest he owes. While any decision on whether he has to pay up could well be held up in the appeals process is Trump's lawyers can find sufficient reason to persuade the judiciary to return his cases to court—by no means a given—he will still have to deposit much of what he owes in escrow. He'll need much more than faithful MAGAs to meet the court's demands."

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-civil-fraud-fine-gofundme-1871059

[sheshe2]

130. Thanks for the update, Malmsy.

[CountAllVotes]

131. $2,024,405 raised of $355,000,000 goal