My explanation of the Fani Willis-Nathan Wade relationship

[Pototan]

Last edited Mon Feb 19, 2024, 01:35 PM - Edit history (1)

I watched the entire proceeding from Georgia. The speculation of when the Fani Willis-Nathan Wade relationship started was all over the map. Was it 2019? Was it prior to Wade's hiring on November 1 2021? Or was it when they admitted it started in February 2022, after Wade's hiring?

Well, I've been in relationships and I'm sure you have, too. They can be described differently from the perspective of the two participants and especially from third parties. For instance, two single people (or even married) can have a professional, friendly relationship at the start of their meeting. After a while, chemistry can develop, without a "romantic" involvement of any type. At this point, neither are in a "relationship", in the meaning of this hearing. Later, the two can go out for drinks, or even dinner. A third party may assume this is a "romantic relationship", but the two principals would not describe it as that. As the relationship evolves, the two parties start to trust one another, yet no physical, sexual interaction has occurred. Neither would say they are in a "romantic relationship". Even further, a woman may think she is still getting to know a man before she sleeps with him. He would, no doubt, think that only when they "consummate" their relationship, would he consider it "romantic".

In short, everyone could be telling the truth, from each individuals perspective. But in reality, the two principals are the only ones who can define their relationship at each stage, meaning that Nathan Wade and Fani Willis are both telling the truth, as they say it was Feb. 2023, and that's the final word. Everyone else's opinion is meaningless.

Dates corrected on edit

[Quakerfriend]

1. Yes, everything you said could ring true.

The bottom line is there does not appear to be any proof as to when their relationship started.

But, most importantly Fani does not seem to have benefited financially from her involvement with Wade.

[Pototan]

3. I am trying to dispell the notion

that one or both of them lied in their affidavits.

[Think. Again.]

2. I just don't see how or why...

...any relationship would disqualify her from doing her job unless having work relationships is a firing offense.

If the county or state is considerating terminating her for breaking department policy, why are lawyers from one of her cases questioning her in court?

What exactly are the grounds for one of her cases calling her in front of a judge???

[Pototan]

4. There is a question of being "untruthful"

in their affidavits. They both confirm Feb. 2023. Third parties are trying to choose other dates before that, which would make the untruthfulness in the affidavits problematic.

[gab13by13]

6. So what, how is that a conflict of interest?

How did Fani benefit personally from hiring Wade?

Someone needs to investigate Roman. If he conspired with Wade's ex-wife to reopen their divorce settlement that is a crime.

That is my narrative, my narrative isn't about whether or not Fani and Wade could be caught in a lie. When we debate what Magats want us to debate, they are winning.

[Pototan]

8. Lying under oath in a deposition is serious

That is what I'm trying to dispel in my OP. That's the answer to your question, "so what?"

[Think. Again.]

10. I see...

....so by setting them up to define a date that their relationship started (which is probably the most subjective question in the world) one of her cases is trying to prove that she is a dishonest person in general, and therefore should be disqualified because she can't be trusted to present honest facts whether or not there is any actual question about the actual facts she is presenting.

Typical sleazy lawyer move.

[Scrivener7]

19. And pretty rich, seeing as how it's coming from tsf's lawyers.

[MichMan]

30. I thought the opposing lawyers were representing other defendants besides Trump?

Michael Roman and others

[MichMan]

15. Especially for people who are part of the legal system as attorneys or prosecutors

Wade specifically answered on a previous affidavit that he had not dated anyone outside of his marriage before the date he filed for divorce.

He admitted that he had last week , but when questioned about it, he said that the marriage was over in 2015 as far as he was concerned. That directly contradicted the dates on his previous avadavat.

[oldmanlynn]

11. Knowing each other in 2019 isnt a romantic relationship

If Wade and Willis were friends starting in 2019 this doesnt mean romantic relationship. I thought willis dad said willis had a different boyfriend in 19, 20,21. A guy that was a dj

[Pototan]

16. That's my point

People hire friends all the time. That's how they get to know the person, through personal interaction. It doesn't have to be romantic. Wade was Willis's third choice. People didn't want the job or the aggravation.

[onecaliberal]

17. This right here. All fuckin day. What is the reason?

[ificandream]

5. This whole thing is nothing but distractive b.s.

The only reason the Trump side is going after her is because she's a black woman. If it was a white man or even a black man, this probably would never have come up. Didn't I see something about the fact that the guy who brought this up is nothing more than an instigator? The whole thing rings very false. And the testimony about Willis and Wade seemed to prove that.

[gab13by13]

7. Damn, I was about to give you a heart.

❤️

[BlueMTexpat]

9. THIS! eom

[japple]

12. Michael Roman, the idiot who accused Fani Willis of having an affair

with Special Prosecutor Nathan Wade and benefiting financially from the case.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Roman

[Maeve]

18. He's not an idiot--he's using a very deliberate tactic. Mess with us, we'll mess you up

Getting dirt on opponents and attacking them with anything and everything---why do you think so many refuse to stand up to the bullies? Skeletons they are trying to keep in the closet

[dutch777]

13. A delaying tactic, Even if Willis and Wade are fired for cause, the case against Trump remains.

[ificandream]

14. I really doubt they will be.

Of course, if the judge rules they aren't to be fired, some Trump lackey -- or even Trump himself -- will keep bringing this up. It's all about keeping the bad conversation going for the right-wing media.

[Scrivener7]

20. Exactly. It's a modern day dunking stool.

[elocs]

21. In her 2020 campaign for DA, Fani Willis pleged she would never date anyone who worked under her.

I wonder what would cause her to say that in the midst of a campaign? Too bad she didn't keep that pledge since it would have eliminated this recent kerfuffle.

[karynnj]

23. I think she said it as there were rumors of harrassment by the incumbent

Technically, she did nit break the commitment as he was a contractor. Yes. I know that distinction is on the level of Clinton's meaning of is. I agree it is unfortunate, but given the intensity of what both were doing on the job and the background of threats, you could argue they were two reasonably compatible people thrown into being together often and sharing many things they could not speak of publicly.

Consider Fanni was separated from her family and was dealing with major attacks with no support network.

[karynnj]

22. You very eloquently say what i was thinking

In many cases, it is very hard to say when a relationship starts and even harder to say when a friendship becomes a romantic relationship. Thank you for explaining so well.

[Demsrule86]

24. The one who said it began in 19 was an employer who was fired and she blamed Fanni

What you are suggesting would mean Fanni and others committed perjury.

[Pototan]

31. What I'm saying is the opposite of your interpretation

The former employee, who was fired, only had an opinion of a friendship. In reality, only the two principals know when the relationship became physical, which would then be interpreted as "romantic". Willis and Wade can't have committed perjury, since they are the only ones who really know.

[gulliver]

25. Once the judge rules not to disqualify her, she needs to recuse immediately

I expect she will, but we'll see.

[CincyDem]

27. When the judge determines there no there there, she will not recuse.

After watching her entire testimony, no question she is a woman who will not be bullied or give an inch to bullies…she will set an example, not be an example.

[NoRethugFriends]

28. you have zero reason to assume that

[brush]

26. They both testified it was 2022 not 2023 as you wrotel

[MichMan]

29. Wouldn't that make Wade's prior affidavits inaccurate?

[brush]

33. How do you mean?

[Pototan]

32. You are correct and

I corrected the years on edit.

Thank you