Denmark to give Ukraine all of its artillery

[True Dough]

Not every country is in a position to do this, but more could!

Denmark is sending its "entire artillery" to Ukraine, the Danish prime minister has said.

Speaking at the Munich Security Conference, Mette Frederiksen appealed to other European nations to do more to help Ukraine in its fight against Russian President Vladimir Putin's invading forces.

"They are asking us for ammunition now. Artillery now. From the Danish side, we decided to donate our entire artillery," she said.

"I'm sorry to say, friends, there are still ammunition in stock in Europe," she continued. "This is not only a question about production, because we have weapons, we have ammunition, we have air defense that we don't have to use ourself at the moment, that we should deliver to Ukraine."

https://www.businessinsider.com/denmark-to-send-all-artillery-ukraine-pm-russia-war-2024-2

[SalamanderSleeps]

1. Absolutely, Bravo!

[AlienAsparagus]

2. All in!

Bravo to Denmark!
With tRumplicans putting off aid to Ukraine, all European NATO members need to step up!

[tavernier]

3. Can we give arms to NATO nations

without a vote from congress? You would think we might have some loopholes that Joe’s big guns could dig up.

[erronis]

7. It'd be crazy if we weren't looking into this, or probably already doing it.

Very similar to the Lend-Lease program started prior to the US entering WW-II.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lend-Lease

Note that it was to supply "food, fuel, and material", where the "material" is considered weapons, ammunition, ships, etc.

[tavernier]

8. And since we gave 11 billion to Russia under that deal

We could just consider it a payback.

Thanks for the info.

[oldsoftie]

9. We'd be sending them MORE. Just DELIVERED in a different manner!

[paleotn]

12. Until we change control of the House, that ain't happening.

Maybe 2025 at the earliest. And then there's a close Senate and the goddamn filibuster. But I do agree. Congress needs to pass something larger and more open ended, and quit these pennyante aid packages that are doing little other than keeping Ukraine's nose above the water. Time to put up or shut up.

[paleotn]

11. We don't have to give arms to NATO nations. They buy them.

NATO consists of primarily rich nations, some of the former East Block states excluded. An example...The Netherlands is sending many of their F-16's to Ukraine because they're buying F-35's as replacements anyway.

Congressional review of arms purchases is governed by AECA, the Arms Export Control Act. Congress must be informed of an upcoming sale and can pass a joint resolution of disapproval under AECA, but there's no direct approval required. Joint resolutions of disapproval rarely get enough votes to pass. They could pass regular legislation prohibiting or modifying a sale, but that's also an up hill battle, particularly when it comes to sales to our close allies, NATO, Japan, Australia, etc.

https://sgp.fas.org/crs/weapons/RL31675.pdf

Giving existing US equipment to Ukraine is a whole different story. That's on our dime so direct congressional approval is required.

[tavernier]

14. Understood. Ukraine isn't a NATO nation yet.

But there is plenty of reason to assist with helping other nations in the path of Putin’s aggression. What they do with that help is up to them.

[paleotn]

15. I agree. The problem is buy vs. give.

Foreign nations, particularly close allies, can buy US arms with relatively limited congressional interference. Giving, even to close allies, is a whole different ball game.

In my mind, the solution depends on if we take the House this year. If we do, my hope is Biden goes big. Really big. Escalation be damned. Pass a massive deal to fully supply Ukraine long term and stop with these penny ante aid packages that are doing little other than keeping Ukraine on life support.

[nilram]

18. Yes--We did that with Greece; they then gave arms to Ukraine

Go Joe!

Joe Biden Is Arming Greece So Greece Can Arm Ukraine—And Pro-Russia Republicans Can’t Stop Him
January 30, 2024
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2024/01/30/joe-biden-is-arming-greece-so-greece-can-arm-ukraine-and-pro-russia-republicans-cant-stop-him/

It is, in essence, an American version of Germany’s circular weapons trade—the so-called Ringtausch. The United States is gifting older surplus weapons to Greece with the understanding that Greece donates to Ukraine some of its own surplus weapons.

Greek media broke the news last week. According to the newspaper Kathimerini and other media, the Biden administration offered the Greek government three 87-foot Protector-class patrol boats, two Lockheed Martin C-130H airlifters, 10 Allison T56 turboprop engines for Lockheed P-3 patrol planes plus 60 M-2 Bradley fighting vehicles and a consignment of transport trucks.

All this hardware is U.S. military surplus—and is available to Greece, free of charge, under a U.S. legal authority called “excess defense articles.” Federal law allows an American president to declare military systems surplus to need, assign them a value—potentially zero dollars—and give them away on the condition that the recipient transport them.

The law caps annual EDA transfers at $500 million. The same law doesn’t dictate the value the president assigns to surplus weapons. In a letter to Greek prime minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis, U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken described the ships, planes, engines and vehicles as “free concessions.”

We need to do more of this...

[stollen]

36. Especially since it would benefit

the US defense industry. I wonder how inflated their price would be.

[redqueen]

4. Good on her for stepping up and for asking other countries to do the same

K&R

[et tu]

5. absolutely great, danes!

yes please more europe- the tide will turn
in january 2025 for us aid to ukraine- gotv

[dutch777]

6. Probably not a lot of guns but its the ammo that is really needed. Glad EU gets the need!

Ukraine is taking all the military abuse that Putin could be sharing with the rest of NATO. Give them what they need to fight and win or those tanks with Z insignia may be on your doorstep in a few years.

[jaxexpat]

10. How, then, will they repel attacks fom marauding Vikings?

It's obviously a Norwegian plot. I mean, come on, sheeple.

[soldierant]

22. Marauding Vikings

included Danes. Remember "danegeld"?

[Ocelot II]

26. And the Danelaw, which consisted of most of central Britain,

occupied by Danish Vikings until 1066?

[soldierant]

30. Pretty much.

We have always thought what is now England was filled with saxons. But the archaeologists are now questioning that. Their havei difficulty finding evidence of them. (think they still believe th word "Saxon" was derived from the word "seax" which was a type of battleaxe they presumably used, but I would not swear to it.

[stollen]

37. William was a Norman, correct?

...a French speaking viking?

[Ocelot II]

39. William was the descendant of a Viking, Rollo,

who was Danish or possibly Norwegian. Rollo conquered the area of northern France later known as Normandy (after its conquest by the Northmen). By the time of William 100+ years later, the Northmen had assimilated and married into the Frankish population. At that time the king of England, or at least the Anglo-Saxon part of it, was Harold Godwinson, a Saxon who had married into the Scandinavian family of King Canute of Denmark. The Danes of east Anglia had made peace with the Saxons of west Anglia, and Harold eventually became king of all of England. In the meantime, though, Harald Hardrada of Norway wanted to claim England, but was defeated and killed by Harold Godwinson's forces at the battle of Stamford Bridge in 1066, considered to be the end of the Viking era. A month later Harold Godwinson was defeated by William at Hastings.

[elocs]

13. Outstanding! The Danish would shame our Republican magats if they were capable of shame. n/t

[wendyb-NC]

16. Thank you, Denmark

[liberalla]

17. I'm so impressed with your gift and generosity, Denmark!

Hopefully this will inspire other countries to make similar gestures. Ukraine has to be able to continue the fight to ultimate victory. They have to!

We cannot let Putin succeed in their annihilation of Ukraine.
Slava Ukraini!

[onetexan]

20. That's correct, because the consequences have far reaching effects to all of Europe & the world

Not just the UKR.

[ArkansasDemocrat1]

21. Give Ukraine those shells and guns now or you'll have to use them later

[stollen]

25. If Denmark gets attacked,

the US is obligated to support them.

[onetexan]

27. Denmark is a founding member of NATO

So if it's attacked all of NATO's fury w be directed against russia.

[PortTack]

19. The Czech Republic is giving literally hundreds of thousands of rounds of ammo and missiles to Ukraine

They have asked for Germany and Sweden to pay for shipping which I guess is a done deal

[Kennah]

23. Europe is bracing for the possibility of a second Trump Presidency

[Kennah]

24. Denmark has 19 CAESAR 8x8, which are extremely well regarded. Can easily shoot and scoot.

[True Dough]

35. Video here:

Link to tweet

[Trueblue1968]

28. I love Denmark !!!!!!!

[SoFlaBro]

29. I want all of the fucking artillery provided to smash the fuck out of those Putin fuckstains.

[Raine]

31. Good for Denmark! 👍👏💕nt

[NickB79]

32. How many 155mm shells do they have?

Because Ukraine needs shells for their existing artillery more than new artillery at this point. Can't fight without ammo.

[LymphocyteLover]

33. THANK YOU DENMARK!!!

[orangecrush]

34. Thank you Denmark

For doing what is right, unlike the traitors in our midst.

[Scurrilous]

38. K&R