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David__77

(24,840 posts)
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 01:36 AM Feb 2024

Exclusive: Israeli forces fired on food convoy in Gaza, UN documents and satellite analysis reveals

CNN

Israeli forces fired on a United Nations convoy carrying vital food supplies in central Gaza on February 5, before ultimately blocking the trucks from progressing to the northern part of the territory, where Palestinians are on the verge of famine, according to documents shared exclusively by the UN and CNN’s own analysis.

CNN has seen correspondence between the UN and the Israeli military that show the convoy’s route was agreed upon by both parties prior to the strike. According to an internal incident report compiled by UNRWA, the main UN relief agency in Gaza, which was also seen by CNN, the truck was one of 10 in a convoy sitting stationary at an IDF holding point when it was fired upon.



CNN reviewed satellite imagery taken two hours after the incident that shows three Israeli missile boats a few kilometers offshore. These boats have formed part of a regular deployment since the start of the war, which the IDF has said is aimed at conducting surveillance and attacking Gaza from the west. In December, the IDF said their navy had “struck hundreds of targets and provided support to soldiers on the ground.”

“It’s really difficult to see how this could be a legal attack,” Janina Dill, co-director at Oxford University’s Institute for Ethics, Law and Armed Conflict, told CNN of the February 5 incident. “At a minimum it would look like a very serious violation of international humanitarian law. Whether it’s also criminal then depends on questions of intent, which is something that needs to be established in a court of law.”



https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/02/21/middleeast/un-food-convoy-gaza-israel-strike-cmd-intl/index.html

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Exclusive: Israeli forces fired on food convoy in Gaza, UN documents and satellite analysis reveals (Original Post) David__77 Feb 2024 OP
CNN has become conspicuously fond of basing their investigative stories on unavaliable facts and rampant speculations, Beastly Boy Feb 2024 #1
I agree that attacking a UN food convoy may strike many people as villainous. David__77 Feb 2024 #2
Agree with who? CNN? Beastly Boy Feb 2024 #6
Yay, maybe they should report on what Hamas is living on. Nixie Feb 2024 #4
That Really Is The Point, Sir The Magistrate Feb 2024 #9
I could actually live with THAT point, but CNN goes way past it. Beastly Boy Feb 2024 #11
Clearly Mountainguy Feb 2024 #14
DURec leftstreet Feb 2024 #3
BUt Hamas malaise Feb 2024 #5
But Israel Beastly Boy Feb 2024 #7
NO It's Not "All".. HAMAS Started this Fucking Cha Feb 2024 #13
According to UNRWA ripcord Feb 2024 #8
As per CNN, here is what the report they say they saw states" Beastly Boy Feb 2024 #10
I Appreciate The Detail, Sir The Magistrate Feb 2024 #12
The truck damage does seem oddly insubstantial NickB79 Feb 2024 #15
 

Beastly Boy

(13,283 posts)
1. CNN has become conspicuously fond of basing their investigative stories on unavaliable facts and rampant speculations,
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 10:36 AM
Feb 2024

and then pulling conclusions as baseless as they are opinionated out of their sphincters.

A tweet is not evidence of anything. A second-hand account is no evidence. Absence of an immediate comment is no evidence. A potentially conceivable, but by no means potentially exclusive source of origin of potential munition that was geolocated hours after the incident is no evidence.

Yet, CNN's poor excuse for investigative reporting comes to a preconceived conclusion that fits with its biased narrative rather than, as they claim, available facts: Israel is the villain.

Pardon me for being utterly underwhelmed, as usual.

 

Beastly Boy

(13,283 posts)
6. Agree with who? CNN?
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 06:40 PM
Feb 2024

Then you agree with the narrative that has defined a villain way before they started their "investigation".

The CNN article begins with painting Israel as a villain, and there is not a single fact that they present to justify their premise.

Is this what you agree with? Do you recall whether you agreed with the BBC article that blamed Israel for bombing the Al Ahli hospital, only to apologize profusely for their fuck-up when the facts of a Hamas rocket landing in the hospital yard became undeniably evident?

Nixie

(18,053 posts)
4. Yay, maybe they should report on what Hamas is living on.
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 12:27 PM
Feb 2024

There doesn't seem to be distress or shortages for those terrorists who are committed to killing all Israelis as they have promised to do despite the suffering they bring on their own people.

The Magistrate

(96,043 posts)
9. That Really Is The Point, Sir
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 06:51 PM
Feb 2024

Some people's default setting is 'Someone bad did it!'

Mine is 'Shit, somebody fucked up.'


 

Beastly Boy

(13,283 posts)
11. I could actually live with THAT point, but CNN goes way past it.
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 08:01 PM
Feb 2024

Their default setting is: "Some bad shit happened, ergo it must be Israel".

And then they begin writing articles.

 

Mountainguy

(2,145 posts)
14. Clearly
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 09:00 PM
Feb 2024

A fuck up. Nobody would target a convoy sitting in one of their own checkpoints with naval fire. Nothing to gain for the risk.

 

Beastly Boy

(13,283 posts)
7. But Israel
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 06:44 PM
Feb 2024

Not a single mention of hamas in the article. It's all about "but Israel".

That is all.

Cha

(319,804 posts)
13. NO It's Not "All".. HAMAS Started this Fucking
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 08:45 PM
Feb 2024

WAR Killing Babies And HAMAS Killed a Palestinian boy who dared try to Get Food form Humanitarian AID.

They are Ruthless Fucking Medieval Assholes.

They knew this would Happen.. they wanted it to Happen.

So yeah Fuck HAMAS Back to the Hell they Came from:nuke;

Hamas Police Officer Fatally Shoots Boy Approaching Humanitarian Aid Truck to Keep Others Away: Report

A Hamas police officer reportedly shot and killed a young Gazan boy who was approaching a humanitarian aid truck, prompting crowds to set fire to the police station on Sunday.


Ahmed Bracha was waiting with other Palestinian civilians near an aid truck in Rafah – a city located in the southern Gaza Strip. The Hamas officer reportedly opened fire on the boy, to keep him and others away from the aid truck, according to the Israeli outlet Channel 12.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/hamas-police-officer-fatally-shoots-boy-approaching-humanitarian-aid-truck-to-keep-others-away-report/ar-AA1lYRRf

Video at this link..

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/palestinian-teen-trying-to-grab-humanitarian-aid-said-shot-dead-by-hamas-police/
 

Beastly Boy

(13,283 posts)
10. As per CNN, here is what the report they say they saw states"
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 07:56 PM
Feb 2024

Last edited Wed Feb 21, 2024, 09:02 PM - Edit history (1)

CNN has seen correspondence between the UN and the Israeli military that show the convoy’s route was agreed upon by both parties prior to the strike. According to an internal incident report compiled by UNRWA, the main UN relief agency in Gaza, which was also seen by CNN, the truck was one of 10 in a convoy sitting stationary at an IDF holding point when it was fired upon.


This contradicts everything CNN stated, beginning with the first sentence in their article: "Israeli forces fired on a United Nations convoy carrying vital food supplies in central Gaza on February 5, before ultimately blocking the trucks from progressing."

As per CNN, who claim to have seen the report, the convoy was not "ultimately blocked" It stopped for a scheduled inspection, and only then it was hit. Apparently, the source and the direction of the fire were not identified in the report. There is no hint of an attempt to identify the projectile that hit the truck, which, judging by the damage shown in the photos of the truck in question, is more consistent with a hand grenade or an explosive charge carried by a commercial drone than any weapons system typical of a naval vessel: it appears that the damage caused by the explosion does not extend beyond a three-foot circumference immediately adjacent to the damaged side of the truck. Seeing that photo, CNN's assertion that "much of its contents – mainly wheat flour desperately needed to bake bread – were destroyed." sounds more like a tasteless joke than an accurate description. And the onlything in the report that CNN is using to reach its ridiculous conclusion of Israel's culpability is... get ready... " 'naval gunfire was heard, and the truck was hit, the report said.' ". Sorry CNN, this kind of bullshit is not even going to get you out of a jaywalking ticket.

And, even if all of this CNN crap is to be believed on its face and not ever questioned, not a single brilliant CNN editor asked themselves a simple question: how much sense does it make for an Israeli warship to fire a single round of... whatever it was that was fired, into an Israeli checkpoint full of Israeli truck inspectors checking the contents of trucks one of which they are hitting?

Jeez!...

The Magistrate

(96,043 posts)
12. I Appreciate The Detail, Sir
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 08:16 PM
Feb 2024

Only one party to this conflict has at present any interest in interfering with provision of food supplies to the people of Gaza, and anyone who in answer squawks Israel! goes to the foot of the class....

NickB79

(20,391 posts)
15. The truck damage does seem oddly insubstantial
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 10:06 PM
Feb 2024

Doing some research on Israeli naval ships, it appears the most likely weapon would be the ship-mounted 76mm autocannon. But even this would cause FAR more damage than the picture shown; the HE round used for land assaults packs a punch. That truck shouldn't be in one piece if either a ship-fired shell or a missile hit it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sa'ar_4.5-class_missile_boat

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