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Coventina

(29,731 posts)
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 08:06 AM Feb 2024

A week ago, I listened to 2 faculty from The New College in Florida talk about their situation

Last edited Wed Feb 21, 2024, 06:08 PM - Edit history (1)

ATTENTION!! I made an error in naming the Iowa institution, the speaker was from University of Iowa.
I deeply apologize for my error.


There was also a faculty member from Iowa State about her situation as well.

The situation with New College is pretty horrific. Faculty are leaving in droves, programs are being canceled (like Women's Studies).

The student's murals were all painted over as part of "regular maintenance" over last summer. These were murals commissioned by the college before the takeover.

Many students are leaving as well.

Those who are left behind are extremely demoralized, depressed, and frightened. Every day is a struggle.

The professors do have a union, so even with canceled academic programs, they are given other duties at the college. However, the state legislature is seeking to end the union so that faculty can be fired at will.

Meanwhile, students are in a serious crisis. Many of them came to New College hoping to escape difficult family situations (many of them are LGBTQ+).
Now, they are trapped. Most of them cannot afford to go elsewhere, and many of them are vulnerable if they leave campus.

The faculty in Iowa reported much the same, although they do not get the news coverage that Florida does.

She said that she has had to completely redo her Art History curriculum to leave out all LGBTQ+ artists, such as: Leonardo, Michelangelo, Caravaggio, Andy Warhol, not to mention so many artworks. She cannot teach ancient Greek art at all, since so much of it deals with the worship of the male body by men.

She said that she doesn't want to leave, though, because her students need her more than ever.

What a complete shitshow.

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A week ago, I listened to 2 faculty from The New College in Florida talk about their situation (Original Post) Coventina Feb 2024 OP
Hard to believe State's have this power. Joinfortmill Feb 2024 #1
Such states pervert power. True power empowers the greatest good for the greatest number. ancianita Feb 2024 #2
They got goals! This time it's to eliminate LGBTQ from the conversation, indeed, the whole of society. jaxexpat Feb 2024 #12
They are state schools mcar Feb 2024 #37
New College was such a sweet place Easterncedar Feb 2024 #3
From what I'm reading about Florida.......................... Lovie777 Feb 2024 #8
A bunch more MAGAts will move there Bettie Feb 2024 #27
Florida is literally a sinking ship JoseBalow Feb 2024 #33
To the tune of "Dixie" markodochartaigh Feb 2024 #40
MAGAt paradise k0rs Feb 2024 #35
They're turning out perfect... SergeStorms Feb 2024 #4
and marching to the Orange "Chosen One." We are here. Evolve Dammit Feb 2024 #46
Hillsdale College of the south. gibraltar72 Feb 2024 #5
That's their stated goal! Gah! Easterncedar Feb 2024 #21
There is no "equal protection of the laws"; the 14th Amendment is ignored. Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2024 #6
Where are the journalists? Tesha Feb 2024 #7
My younger brother was an alum, and, as a journalist, would be fiercely in this fight... FailureToCommunicate Feb 2024 #10
So sorry. Easterncedar Feb 2024 #19
I'm sorry for your loss Tesha Feb 2024 #22
So sorry for your loss. He is missed for sure. This is an "all hands on deck" moment in history I believe. Evolve Dammit Feb 2024 #47
The "journalists" are too busy telling us how old and unpopular Biden is to comradebillyboy Feb 2024 #28
That would be the editors and owners. Real journalists FailureToCommunicate Feb 2024 #42
Totally agree. The "ageism" is total BS when someone has the damn experience and can do the job. n/t Evolve Dammit Feb 2024 #48
Welcome to right-wing Christian theocracy. Lonestarblue Feb 2024 #9
Iowa State too? multigraincracker Feb 2024 #11
My youngest graduated from there. murielm99 Feb 2024 #14
For me it was back in 55 and 56. multigraincracker Feb 2024 #15
They used to have a program murielm99 Feb 2024 #32
I made a mistake: University of Iowa, not Iowa state. Coventina Feb 2024 #45
I made a mistake and I deeply apologize!! Coventina Feb 2024 #44
New College of Florida was ranked as the No. 5 National Liberal Arts College in the country sop Feb 2024 #13
is anyone raising money to get them out? mopinko Feb 2024 #16
This is just horrific. CaptainTruth Feb 2024 #17
Insanity! Is this related to tiny D's fascist takeover ecstatic Feb 2024 #18
Yes it is. Entirely Easterncedar Feb 2024 #20
academia has been et tu Feb 2024 #23
It's the Dark Ages redux. live love laugh Feb 2024 #24
EXACTLY! But this time, the Warlords are overly enriched narcissists who want to rule the world Attilatheblond Feb 2024 #26
How is this legal? Chi67 Feb 2024 #25
There appears to be no one to stop them. AllyCat Feb 2024 #31
Exactly k0rs Feb 2024 #36
Damn, enigmania Feb 2024 #29
Perhaps try SUNY dozens of programs. Historic NY Feb 2024 #30
The vultures don't care. lindysalsagal Feb 2024 #34
This is happening at every single Florida state university and college obamanut2012 Feb 2024 #38
New College is asking for and getting funding to provide scholarships to athletes. SYFROYH Feb 2024 #39
Do you have any links to what's happening in Iowa? progressoid Feb 2024 #41
I will PM you. n/t Coventina Feb 2024 #43
Epicenter of Ignorance orangecrush Feb 2024 #49
On behalf of a Save New College campaign Easterncedar Feb 2024 #50

ancianita

(43,307 posts)
2. Such states pervert power. True power empowers the greatest good for the greatest number.
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 08:29 AM
Feb 2024

State power that disempowers is oppressive & evil.

 

jaxexpat

(7,794 posts)
12. They got goals! This time it's to eliminate LGBTQ from the conversation, indeed, the whole of society.
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 08:59 AM
Feb 2024

A quick look into a cross-section of MAGA reveals many strata of bigotry and intolerance. It's like the main trademark, really.

mcar

(46,056 posts)
37. They are state schools
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 04:05 PM
Feb 2024

SO is a recently retired HS teacher here in FL who has several former students at New College. It is a sh!tshow there.

Same goes for the local public school. A friend teaches gifted education at a middle school. Over the years, she's had Holocaust survivors speak and got a grant for the students to built and maintain a Holocaust butterfly garden on the school grounds.

Now she can't have any outside speakers and has to maintain the garden herself. That's just one example of many. I don't know how she manages.

Easterncedar

(6,267 posts)
3. New College was such a sweet place
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 08:35 AM
Feb 2024

Its destruction is shocking. The way the DeSantis-selected board members are making money off their positions would be a scandal in a decent country.

Antioch College, in Ohio, was similarly gutted and destroyed decades ago because of its liberal attitudes and the students’ anti war activities. Several years ago some alumni fought to get the name and campus back and have worked really hard to reestablish the school as it was. (Coretta Scott went there.) It’s still struggling.

Academic freedom is under siege all over. We need to defend it loudly, fiercely, now.

Lovie777

(22,981 posts)
8. From what I'm reading about Florida..........................
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 08:52 AM
Feb 2024

it may become a "ghost" state. Many of those red states as well.

Bettie

(19,704 posts)
27. A bunch more MAGAts will move there
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 10:24 AM
Feb 2024

so, if they concentrate in the worst places, maybe things will be better for the nation as a whole.

JoseBalow

(9,489 posts)
33. Florida is literally a sinking ship
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 03:27 PM
Feb 2024

and will be mostly underwater in a few decades...

Welcome, republicans!

markodochartaigh

(5,545 posts)
40. To the tune of "Dixie"
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 04:49 PM
Feb 2024

Oh, I wish I was in the Land of DeSantis,

Sinking like Ol' Atlantis,

Sink away, sink away, sink away,

Floriduh.

Although only about 3% of the excess heat from anthropogenic climate change goes into melting ice, and due to the latent heat of fusion of water ice is a huge energy sink. Certainly areas like Miami Beach are already having problems from rising sea level. But by the time that enough energy has been released to raise sea level a meter or two so much energy will have heated our atmosphere to the point that serial cereal harvest failures will have starved billions.

k0rs

(152 posts)
35. MAGAt paradise
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 03:44 PM
Feb 2024

When do we stop letting morons destroy the intellectual fabric of the country?

"We don't need no edjucation...."

SergeStorms

(20,591 posts)
4. They're turning out perfect...
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 08:42 AM
Feb 2024

republican voters: dumb as 💩 with zero intellectual curiosity.

FailureToCommunicate

(14,605 posts)
10. My younger brother was an alum, and, as a journalist, would be fiercely in this fight...
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 08:57 AM
Feb 2024

but, sadly, he passed from cancer some years ago.

I'm sure he is spinning in his grave about all this right wing backsliding.

Evolve Dammit

(21,777 posts)
47. So sorry for your loss. He is missed for sure. This is an "all hands on deck" moment in history I believe.
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 07:18 PM
Feb 2024

comradebillyboy

(10,955 posts)
28. The "journalists" are too busy telling us how old and unpopular Biden is to
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 10:28 AM
Feb 2024

look at what happening in America. They try mightily to ignore Trump's corruption and over all insanity. Modern journalism is in a very sad state.

FailureToCommunicate

(14,605 posts)
42. That would be the editors and owners. Real journalists
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 05:59 PM
Feb 2024

are mostly doing their job, or on the unemployment line, having been axed by news divisions.

Evolve Dammit

(21,777 posts)
48. Totally agree. The "ageism" is total BS when someone has the damn experience and can do the job. n/t
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 07:20 PM
Feb 2024

Lonestarblue

(13,480 posts)
9. Welcome to right-wing Christian theocracy.
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 08:54 AM
Feb 2024

And this is exactly what the red states hope to do to the entire country. They’ve made a lot of progress since the MAGA Extreme Court gave them permission to place religion above the law.

multigraincracker

(37,651 posts)
11. Iowa State too?
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 08:58 AM
Feb 2024

That’s a shock. Dad got his PhD there and we lived in Ames for a couple of years.

multigraincracker

(37,651 posts)
15. For me it was back in 55 and 56.
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 09:16 AM
Feb 2024

Living in Married Housing, I was exposed to other cultures. My best friends were an African American and a boy from Denmark.

murielm99

(32,988 posts)
32. They used to have a program
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 11:42 AM
Feb 2024

once a year that celebrated the gay community. She helped out by being an usher and enjoyed it. I will try to find out what it was called.

sop

(18,621 posts)
13. New College of Florida was ranked as the No. 5 National Liberal Arts College in the country
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 09:07 AM
Feb 2024

by U.S. News & World Report for the 2022-2023 school year. It has consistently ranked as one of the top liberal arts colleges in the U.S. since it was founded over sixty years ago.

DeSantis and his RW christian hordes want to destroy any form of "liberal arts" education in Florida. They abhor education that opens minds, they prefer religious training.

mopinko

(73,726 posts)
16. is anyone raising money to get them out?
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 09:26 AM
Feb 2024

iirc, when this went down some other colleges reached out to the students to say they’d b accepted.
it wd b really great if some deep pocket put up the money they need to move.

CaptainTruth

(8,200 posts)
17. This is just horrific.
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 09:29 AM
Feb 2024

This is when there need to be protests, loud ones, alert the media, get the facts out to FL residents on local news & by any other means possible.

ecstatic

(35,075 posts)
18. Insanity! Is this related to tiny D's fascist takeover
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 09:48 AM
Feb 2024

of college curriculums and dictating which topics paying students should be able to study?

et tu

(2,387 posts)
23. academia has been
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 09:54 AM
Feb 2024

under attack even from big business for
the last several years-
it's disheartening but it will change if
we keep dems in power.
the far right are losers and gotv~

Attilatheblond

(8,877 posts)
26. EXACTLY! But this time, the Warlords are overly enriched narcissists who want to rule the world
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 10:19 AM
Feb 2024

Their weapons of choice seem to be bribes, mass media propaganda, and creating compliant politicians.

Been trying to warn about this for decades, but just being able to connect dots and figure out what the picture will be isn't enough to convince a lot of people who can't see past the ends of their noses.

Chi67

(1,285 posts)
25. How is this legal?
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 10:01 AM
Feb 2024

What about the First Amendment. Seems to me this is a blatant violation.

AllyCat

(18,842 posts)
31. There appears to be no one to stop them.
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 10:45 AM
Feb 2024

SCROTUS will support whatever tiny d does as “free speech” ignoring free speech and expression for others.

k0rs

(152 posts)
36. Exactly
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 03:50 PM
Feb 2024

The constitution is of no concern to MAGAts, unless it's invoking the 2nd amendment. They will do what they want unless forcibly stopped. And then they will complain that they are being "cancelled."

obamanut2012

(29,369 posts)
38. This is happening at every single Florida state university and college
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 04:31 PM
Feb 2024

New College was just the easiest to totally take over because of the size. I know for a fact they are hitting very heavily at Gulf Coast now, and also FAU and UCF. But, FGCU is next to go full MAGAT DESANTIS, because of teh size.

It IS scary, and demoralizing, and it si why my wife and I left academia in FL last year for another state (a hint: Gavin is my Gov).

SYFROYH

(34,214 posts)
39. New College is asking for and getting funding to provide scholarships to athletes.
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 04:36 PM
Feb 2024

It will lose its status as a public liberal arts college, but it will probably double in enrollment in 5 years.

All the administrators and politicians involved will call it a win.

progressoid

(53,179 posts)
41. Do you have any links to what's happening in Iowa?
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 05:38 PM
Feb 2024

I hadn't heard about this. But to be honest, the IA legislature is busy passing so many awful bills it is hard to keep up.

Easterncedar

(6,267 posts)
50. On behalf of a Save New College campaign
Fri Feb 23, 2024, 10:08 AM
Feb 2024

Can anyone help me find information about or a link to this talk by the faculty? The goal is to safely share what we can, knowing that it’s often difficult for the professors to speak publicly.

Thanks.

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