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RAB910

(4,030 posts)
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 10:57 AM Feb 2024

House Republicans committed treason by working with enemy spies to try and take down POTUS

Treason refers to the betrayal of one’s own country by attempting to overthrow the government through waging war against the state or materially aiding its enemies.

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House Republicans committed treason by working with enemy spies to try and take down POTUS (Original Post) RAB910 Feb 2024 OP
The answer to the question is obvious, yes chicoescuela Feb 2024 #1
Dan Goldman always hits it out of the park! Stinky The Clown Feb 2024 #2
Now we're cooking with gasoline! bucolic_frolic Feb 2024 #3
Remember too,... magicarpet Feb 2024 #6
Sparkle Pony Princess was let into Putin's office by Rupert Murdoch's former wife, who allegedly became Putin girl friend Attilatheblond Feb 2024 #16
As long as there's beaucoup money around.... SergeStorms Feb 2024 #24
For a lot of republicants, all it takes is a smile and a few admiring words Harker Feb 2024 #13
Russian swallow Historic NY Feb 2024 #39
And a flock of Ravens, too. Harker Feb 2024 #40
That's what the (r)epuglicons do when it's shoved down their throats. erronis Feb 2024 #47
I think you mean we're cooking with gas, CrispyQ Feb 2024 #58
It's the same ones that were involved with the insurrection. kentuck Feb 2024 #4
More like PatSeg Feb 2024 #14
Echoes of Alger Hiss in the sense of did they, or didn't they? bucolic_frolic Feb 2024 #5
Republicans are hell bent on delivering America and Europe to Putin. dalton99a Feb 2024 #7
The question is why? Owens Feb 2024 #9
Power. Money. Prestige. Money. Power. Harker Feb 2024 #11
They care about their comfort NOW Attilatheblond Feb 2024 #18
As Christian as "two Corinthians." Harker Feb 2024 #20
I see what you did there! MyOwnPeace Feb 2024 #30
Sometimes my posts practically write themselves. Harker Feb 2024 #35
You've got to wonder..... MyOwnPeace Feb 2024 #36
They must want to be lied to. Harker Feb 2024 #41
I hate that fake orange fuck. I hope he croaks today. -nt CrispyQ Feb 2024 #70
Today would be nice. Tomorrow would be okay. Harker Feb 2024 #71
White supremacy. raging moderate Feb 2024 #23
Yes, those believing in their own superiority can only convince themselves of it because of their Harker Feb 2024 #34
Simple Cherokee100 Feb 2024 #12
Kompromat,... magicarpet Feb 2024 #44
Nixon turned to domestic enemies after Beijing, Moscow, and the Paris Peace Accords Ponietz Feb 2024 #25
I guess they figure if we're headed toward an autocracy... NCDem47 Feb 2024 #38
It depends on who you are jmowreader Feb 2024 #63
Looks, walks, acts, smells, talks like a bunch of traitors to me. NoMoreRepugs Feb 2024 #8
si. AllaN01Bear Feb 2024 #10
They still do at this very moment. SergeStorms Feb 2024 #26
o danny boy! et tu Feb 2024 #15
It's an open secret. They're not even hiding the fact they're agents of russia onetexan Feb 2024 #17
This is worse, more dangerous, than Watergate. Our media should give this story at least as much attention. Midnight Writer Feb 2024 #19
I fear that today's major newspapers only care about money. Abigail_Adams Feb 2024 #57
Allowing stations like Fox/Newsmax/OANN to call themselves news is wrong, I don't care if they are cable not braodcast. CrispyQ Feb 2024 #72
Our media is owned by right wing I_UndergroundPanther Feb 2024 #64
+1 --MSNBC only exists cuz there's a market for it. CrispyQ Feb 2024 #74
They hate liberals so much... surfered Feb 2024 #21
Because we have empathy... SergeStorms Feb 2024 #33
"They are my political opponents, not my enemy." Wednesdays Feb 2024 #49
They hate liberals I_UndergroundPanther Feb 2024 #65
They think their white skin makes them special & CrispyQ Feb 2024 #73
Well, I wear my liberal identity with pride! calimary Feb 2024 #76
Was he lying then, or is he lying now? SlimJimmy Feb 2024 #22
Maybe the whole story will come out. SarahD Feb 2024 #27
Traitors, every single one of them dlk Feb 2024 #28
Remember the GOP rep who recently said the russians getagrip_already Feb 2024 #29
Who watches the watchers? ArkansasDemocrat1 Feb 2024 #37
That was Maria Butiana's assignment at the NRA,... magicarpet Feb 2024 #56
Love that question. I agree 100%; it's really the only meaningful question remaining KPN Feb 2024 #31
All of this definitely looks treasonous, as most of us "layfolk" understand the concept. ShazzieB Feb 2024 #42
There is no question... 2naSalit Feb 2024 #32
Garland going to do something about it? Emile Feb 2024 #43
This made me laugh out loud JoseBalow Feb 2024 #46
They definitely provided aid and comfort to the enemy. live love laugh Feb 2024 #45
WHich americans knew his info was from Russia? lindysalsagal Feb 2024 #48
1st time was 1/6 for pootin. Bluethroughu Feb 2024 #50
Despite the histrionics it isnt treason ripcord Feb 2024 #51
Good luck. TwilightZone Feb 2024 #54
I don't expect facts out of right wingers ripcord Feb 2024 #55
Based on something that is obsolete. Who's going to declare war triron Feb 2024 #59
Or we could be responsible and use the definition in the Constitution? ripcord Feb 2024 #61
it is time northern light Feb 2024 #52
A surgical enema, lol. That's quite an image! CrispyQ Feb 2024 #75
Republicans will claim "complete immunity" doing their jobs as "officers of the Government" Sessuch Feb 2024 #53
Smirnov was doing this for the Putin government Shoonra Feb 2024 #60
Kickin AKwannabe Feb 2024 #62
I'm sure They knew but didn't care. Kablooie Feb 2024 #66
It helps when you have a voting base that considers politics a sport. OAITW r.2.0 Feb 2024 #77
Russian intelligence plus republican stupidity nt Wicked Blue Feb 2024 #67
Sure looks so malaise Feb 2024 #68
So my question is this... FalloutShelter Feb 2024 #69

bucolic_frolic

(55,063 posts)
3. Now we're cooking with gasoline!
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 11:04 AM
Feb 2024

That goes straight to the heart of the matter. Recall how Russia had operatives at the NRA, Maria Butina? was her name.

magicarpet

(18,490 posts)
6. Remember too,...
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 11:12 AM
Feb 2024

US Senators and House Representatives travel to Moscow to celebrate the Fourth Of July - the birth date of AmeriKKKKa.

Sparkle Pony Princess even sat in the chair of Putie's office desk at the Kremlin with much fanfare and excitement.

Attilatheblond

(8,861 posts)
16. Sparkle Pony Princess was let into Putin's office by Rupert Murdoch's former wife, who allegedly became Putin girl friend
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 12:06 PM
Feb 2024

Amazing all the circles one finds that are parts of Venn Diagrams.

SergeStorms

(20,544 posts)
24. As long as there's beaucoup money around....
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 12:52 PM
Feb 2024

you'll find republiCAN'TS neck deep in whatever greasy, vile situation they're near. Their god is money, no matter how much they pretend otherwise.

Harker

(17,771 posts)
13. For a lot of republicants, all it takes is a smile and a few admiring words
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 11:47 AM
Feb 2024

from a pretty woman for them to go all in, and I'd bet plenty were getting more than that.

Harker

(17,771 posts)
40. And a flock of Ravens, too.
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 02:00 PM
Feb 2024

I figure they have it all covered, and they're good at it.

PatSeg

(53,206 posts)
14. More like
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 11:50 AM
Feb 2024

They love power more. Plus Putin is probably blackmailing them. They have no principles except protecting their hides and/or enriching themselves.

Attilatheblond

(8,861 posts)
18. They care about their comfort NOW
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 12:08 PM
Feb 2024

and totally disregard the future, their own and ours collectively. Doesn't sound very 'Christian', does it?

Harker

(17,771 posts)
20. As Christian as "two Corinthians."
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 12:15 PM
Feb 2024

You could even throw in a third Corinthian, and it wouldn't help.

Harker

(17,771 posts)
41. They must want to be lied to.
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 02:07 PM
Feb 2024

This brief clip shows Trumpsky's depth of biblical scholarship.

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raging moderate

(4,622 posts)
23. White supremacy.
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 12:44 PM
Feb 2024

They think "white" people are the only true human beings. And the only true Americans. These delusions are understandable in people who treasure the ridiculous fantasy that they truly have white skin.

Harker

(17,771 posts)
34. Yes, those believing in their own superiority can only convince themselves of it because of their
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 01:15 PM
Feb 2024

weak minds.

Cherokee100

(454 posts)
12. Simple
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 11:46 AM
Feb 2024

It's either for the power and money or he has the usual blackmail (money, sex, drugs, etc fodder on them.

magicarpet

(18,490 posts)
44. Kompromat,...
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 05:37 PM
Feb 2024

As defined by Wikipedia....

The term kompromat is a borrowing of the Russian NKVD slang term компромат from the Stalin era, which is short for "compromising material" (Russian: компрометирующий материал, romanized: komprometiruyushchy material).

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kompromat#:~:text=The%20term%20kompromat%20is%20a,%2C%20romanized%3A%20komprometiruyushchy%20material).

Ponietz

(4,319 posts)
25. Nixon turned to domestic enemies after Beijing, Moscow, and the Paris Peace Accords
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 12:55 PM
Feb 2024

Then, Watergate, and for 50 years the Democratic Party has been their #1 bogeyman. It’s been a zero sum game for them since, at least, Grinch, er, Gingrich.

NCDem47

(3,462 posts)
38. I guess they figure if we're headed toward an autocracy...
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 01:30 PM
Feb 2024

They want to be in the good graces of the the autocrat.

Not end up dead or in a penal colony in remote Alaska in the future United States of Russia.

jmowreader

(53,168 posts)
63. It depends on who you are
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 12:36 AM
Feb 2024

You either want to live in a nation where everyone's required to attend the church you do, you don't want to pay taxes, you want everyone to follow a lifestyle you approve of, you want every gun control law abolished, or you want absolutely no laws that keep you from doing anything you want.

So, naturally, they're trying to hand over the country to a guy whose nation is nothing like that.

SergeStorms

(20,544 posts)
26. They still do at this very moment.
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 01:02 PM
Feb 2024

Just read any of their posts on social media.

At any given moment we're; communists, Marxists, fascists, socialists etc., which lets us know they have absolutely no idea what any of those ideologies mean. They think they're all interchangeable insults. 🙄

Midnight Writer

(25,385 posts)
19. This is worse, more dangerous, than Watergate. Our media should give this story at least as much attention.
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 12:09 PM
Feb 2024

To those too young to remember, Watergate was the lead story of every news broadcast and newspaper headline for two years.

Let's hope that our modern media rises to the occasion and restores their credibility.

So far, they have too often served as stenographers for GOP/Russian disinformation, lies, and propaganda.

 

Abigail_Adams

(333 posts)
57. I fear that today's major newspapers only care about money.
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 09:22 PM
Feb 2024

Whatever sells the most papers. They're failing in their duty. Their position gives them a bully pulpit and if they fail to use it to protect the nation, they either don't care or are owned/influenced by Russian operatives as well. To this day the Boston Globe has not mentioned Trump's ravings, crimes, legal judgments, etc. on the front page. It should be like you described Watergate--the coverage of Russia "taking America without firing a shot" in the words of Kruschev--should be everywhere.

CrispyQ

(40,945 posts)
72. Allowing stations like Fox/Newsmax/OANN to call themselves news is wrong, I don't care if they are cable not braodcast.
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 10:23 AM
Feb 2024

The definition of news should be the same on all formats & if you lie, you're not news. When you lose a $787.5 million defamation suit you don't get to call yourself news.

The media is only as liberal as the conservative corporations that own it.
~bumper sticker

I_UndergroundPanther

(13,369 posts)
64. Our media is owned by right wing
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 12:40 AM
Feb 2024

Oligarchs and there is no fairness doctrine anymore forcing the media to show both sides of viewpoints.

The right planned to control the media for a long,long time and make it republican propaganda. Certain anti trust laws not reinforced,politicians greasing palms and looking the other way excusing what the oligarchy was doing.

Even msnbc has 25 stories about republican bullshit to 1 questionable Biden story maybe 1 pro Biden story every 75 republican stories,right wing oligarchy owns msnbc too.

Not a coincidence. Republicans wanting to destroy public television ... An owned media is an owned media and it is not free to tell the news as it is anymore.

CrispyQ

(40,945 posts)
74. +1 --MSNBC only exists cuz there's a market for it.
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 10:46 AM
Feb 2024

Mehdi Hasan's too truthful to get more than an hour a week & isn't Joy Reid on her way out, too? Someone on DU used this analogy for how all stations report right-wing news.

>> Fox reports that Obama cheats at golf.

>> CNN reports that it's inconclusive if Obama cheats at golf.

>> MSNBC reports that it's not true that Obama cheats at golf.

All three are discussing Obama cheating at golf.

They will help reelect the authoritarian who will shut them down for ratings today.

surfered

(13,376 posts)
21. They hate liberals so much...
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 12:17 PM
Feb 2024

…they would align themselves and work with our enemies . Shows how far the GOP has sunk. John McCain once said about Democrats, “They are my political opponents, not my enemy.”

SergeStorms

(20,544 posts)
33. Because we have empathy...
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 01:09 PM
Feb 2024

and sympathy for others. That makes us weaklings in their eyes. But THEY'RE true christians.

Wednesdays

(22,551 posts)
49. "They are my political opponents, not my enemy."
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 07:01 PM
Feb 2024

Which makes McCain weak, in the eyes of Smellvis and his MAGAt crowd.

CrispyQ

(40,945 posts)
73. They think their white skin makes them special &
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 10:36 AM
Feb 2024

then they go to tanning booths & lay out in the sun to gets as dark a tan as they can in the summer.

calimary

(89,951 posts)
76. Well, I wear my liberal identity with pride!
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 12:40 PM
Feb 2024

And fuck the GOP if they don’t like it.

And while they’re at it, they can GET OUT of America’s BEDROOMS!!!!!

SlimJimmy

(3,251 posts)
22. Was he lying then, or is he lying now?
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 12:44 PM
Feb 2024

Are we to believe anything he has to say at this point?

 

SarahD

(1,732 posts)
27. Maybe the whole story will come out.
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 01:02 PM
Feb 2024

Let him plead guilty and spend a year in some nice Club Fed prison. Otherwise, send him to Russia.

dlk

(13,245 posts)
28. Traitors, every single one of them
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 01:04 PM
Feb 2024

Now, the question is what do we do about it? Our government seems to be inundated with dirty, Putin bootlickers. This can't go unaddressed or Republicans will only be emboldened to commit more crimes.

These days the Republican platform seems to consist solely of Russian psy ops, when they aren't abusing women.

getagrip_already

(17,802 posts)
29. Remember the GOP rep who recently said the russians
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 01:05 PM
Feb 2024

Had compromised gop politicians with honey trap agents in DC?

Yeah, that needs to be revisited and the fbi brought in.

magicarpet

(18,490 posts)
56. That was Maria Butiana's assignment at the NRA,...
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 08:45 PM
Feb 2024

.... to be a seductive honey pot and open the doors for the free entry of Russian propaganda. So then trDUMP could be installed as Putie's dumb as a rock internal agent of treason - specifically placed in the Oval Office to neuter and dismantle American and Western Democracies and replace with Fascist Oligarchic Kleptocracies.

KPN

(17,368 posts)
31. Love that question. I agree 100%; it's really the only meaningful question remaining
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 01:09 PM
Feb 2024

as to whether Rs were/are Russian agents. My sense? Witting. Not that it really matters. Either way, they worked intentionally to undermine the long standing political order that we and the free world fought and worked so hard for so long to achieve. That is clearly betrayal of our own country by materially aiding a nation that seeks to undermine and upend our democratic system of government and the established world order. I don't care about the Constitution's definition of treason, when coupled with an attempt to overthrow the elected government, colluding with a foreign enemy is treason in my book.

ShazzieB

(22,565 posts)
42. All of this definitely looks treasonous, as most of us "layfolk" understand the concept.
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 02:20 PM
Feb 2024

In a court of law, the definition in the Constitution is the one that would determine whether they could be tried for that specific offense; but If necessary, I'm sure there is something else in the lawbooks that would apply.

Leaving all that aside, an investigation is definitely in order. Of that, there is no question.


Bluethroughu

(7,215 posts)
50. 1st time was 1/6 for pootin.
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 07:28 PM
Feb 2024

2nd time was the ongoing do nothing Republicans even after they get what they asked for, but JOHNSON HAD TO ASK TRUMP/ POOTIN AND THEY SAID NO DEAL.

3rd is FAKE INFORMATION FROM RUSSIAN ASSETS TO REMOVE CRITICAL SECURITY PERSONNEL.

MERRICK, DOJ ??????

TwilightZone

(28,836 posts)
54. Good luck.
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 08:03 PM
Feb 2024

It's one of the most misused words on DU and fellow leftie sites.

And by right-wingers re: Biden, Obama, Clinton, et al.

Everyone gets it wrong. Even people who should know better, but I think some of them do it intentionally for clicks.

 

ripcord

(5,553 posts)
55. I don't expect facts out of right wingers
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 08:05 PM
Feb 2024

I'm surprised when people here ignore facts.

 

triron

(22,240 posts)
59. Based on something that is obsolete. Who's going to declare war
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 11:02 PM
Feb 2024

On a nuke armed country? Annihilation would happen before the declaration was made. Seems absurd to me. Let's use the term 'treason ' in a sensible way.

 

northern light

(29 posts)
52. it is time
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 07:47 PM
Feb 2024

It's past time for a surgical enema of the DOJ and the FBI. You could even throw in the secret service. All of these organizations have in some way been compromised. If not by the Russians but by their political leanings towards MAGA or religion. Even the Israelis have been known to delve into the inner workings of our government. I don't believe in all these conspiracy theory's but there seem to be a lot of coincidences.

CrispyQ

(40,945 posts)
75. A surgical enema, lol. That's quite an image!
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 11:12 AM
Feb 2024

I would include all of law enforcement & the armed forces too.

Sessuch

(232 posts)
53. Republicans will claim "complete immunity" doing their jobs as "officers of the Government"
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 07:47 PM
Feb 2024

Shoonra

(602 posts)
60. Smirnov was doing this for the Putin government
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 11:04 PM
Feb 2024

I was shocked - shocked I tell you - to find out that the Russians would try to deceive the US government.
Especially after that nice Mr. Putin said, to Americans, that he preferred Biden to Trump.

What we have are Republicans carrying the water for the Russians. And the result has included Russian violations of NATO countries, and a serious blow to the Ukrainian War of Independence.

We need to vote the Republicans who are giving aid and comfort to Putin out of office.

Kablooie

(19,107 posts)
66. I'm sure They knew but didn't care.
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 04:48 AM
Feb 2024

The only thing they care about is raw power and they will do anything to gain and maintain power.

OAITW r.2.0

(32,108 posts)
77. It helps when you have a voting base that considers politics a sport.
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 01:36 PM
Feb 2024

Who really don't care what is happening in DC, as long as their "team" wins.

FalloutShelter

(14,450 posts)
69. So my question is this...
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 10:04 AM
Feb 2024

Why are we not organizing to rout them out?
If this were flipped and it was the Democrats who did this… there would be torches and pitchforks.

We have very little time. The Russians are dividing Democrats even now, over Palestine.

Divide and conquer is as old as history.

Time to focus on what’s happening HERE, to our government.

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