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By Ewan Palmer
Ohio congressman Jim Jordan could face major repercussions over the Republican attempt to impeach Joe Biden after a former FBI informant charged with making false bribery claims against the president was accused of using Russian intelligence, legal experts suggest.
Alexander Smirnov, 43, is accused of making a false statement to the FBI and creating a false and fictitious record in relation to claims that the president and his son, Hunter Biden, were paid $5 million each in bribes from Ukrainian energy company, Burisma.
In court filings on Tuesday, the Department of Justice said that Smirnov admitted during interviews that he had met with "officials associated with Russian intelligence" who were "involved in passing a story" about Hunter Biden.
The highly disputed claims that Biden financially benefited from his son's foreign business dealings while he was vice president, including accusations of taking bribes, have been cited by House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jordan and other Republican figures in their impeachment proceedings ...
https://www.newsweek.com/jim-jordan-joe-biden-impeachment-bribery-russia-1871889
MontanaMama
(24,749 posts)involved in this scam. Not holding my breath however.
Irish_Dem
(82,200 posts)Not.
brooklynite
(96,882 posts)It's not a crime to lie, nor can anything said in Congress be actionable (see "speech and debate clause"
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The fact that you "know" they were working with Russia doesn't make it admissible in Court.
MontanaMama
(24,749 posts)into Jordan and Comer (to start) to find out if they were knowing or unknowing Russian assets in an effort to impeach a sitting President.
NoRethugFriends
(3,776 posts)Kid Berwyn
(25,006 posts)...He can investigate, indict and round up all the co-conspirators in Congress, the Courts and the Executive.
Come to think of it, Smith may need to hire more prosecutors.
FakeNoose
(42,315 posts)... or slithered away.
As much as I admire Jack Smith, I'm aware that he doesn't get to decide on the next investigation target.
DBoon
(25,130 posts)Evolve Dammit
(21,814 posts)Wonder Why
(7,215 posts)wiggs
(8,849 posts)You can't meet with Russian agents without all kinds of US and foreign intelligence services knowing about it. Perhaps these gop cultists are owned lock/stock/barrel by those complicit operatives.
Or I prefer to think the DOJ or the IC already knows and are waiting to go up and down the corrupt chain and FINALLY uncover the depths of TFGs foreign collusion.
Diraven
(1,942 posts)Otherwise it will look political...🙄
bucolic_frolic
(55,744 posts)Prairie Gates
(8,457 posts)Norbert
(7,847 posts)like going dutch with a suspected left leaning attorney, or worse yet, wearing a tan suit.
lapfog_1
(31,968 posts)malaise
(297,785 posts)for the entire failed coup and associated happenings.
Get thee to the greatest page
leftieNanner
(16,167 posts)May it come true.
Lovie777
(23,643 posts)it's like nothing computes in their tiny brains.
progressoid
(53,357 posts)Last edited Wed Feb 21, 2024, 04:43 PM - Edit history (1)
Wishful thinking.
Unless there is overwhelming evidence connecting Jordan et. al. to Smirnov's lies, this will just fade into history with all the other bullshit they've done.
edited to add: even with overwhelming evidence, what would happen? Seriously. They ignore subpoenas and regularly break rules without consequence.
muriel_volestrangler
(106,548 posts)but he's a modern Republican, so he isn't. There won't be any consequences for him.
True Blue American
(18,579 posts)muriel_volestrangler
(106,548 posts)Jordan got 39% to Wilson's 31%, so I can't see moderates or independents getting rid of him, however much of an asshole he is.
Duppers
(28,475 posts)Emile
(43,173 posts)Layzeebeaver
(2,292 posts)Nice!
no_hypocrisy
(55,317 posts)twodogsbarking
(19,285 posts)stopdiggin
(15,625 posts)And let's face it, Jordan is held in high regard and esteem by .... Virtually no one. - - - - - -
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JohnSJ
(98,883 posts)Mr.Bill
(24,906 posts)if he rats out the people in Congress who knew he was a Russian spy. Especially if he has documentation.
onecaliberal
(36,594 posts)Bev54
(13,512 posts)SouthernDem4ever
(6,619 posts)not holding my breath.
AKwannabe
(6,897 posts)BlueTsunami2018
(5,062 posts)Nothing ever happens to them.
So, Im not holding my breath.
calimary
(90,677 posts)Evolve Dammit
(21,814 posts)jcgoldie
(12,046 posts)Does anyone on either side find it surprising that he would be easily duped?
creeksneakers2
(8,044 posts)Looks like he could wind up in trouble if somebody looks into it but so far they haven't.
eppur_se_muova
(42,427 posts)jcgoldie
(12,046 posts)ask the ohio state wrestling team.
pecosbob
(8,483 posts)How do we clean up the DoJ and the FBI?
The evidence is finally coming out indicating both were in the tank for Trump all along.
dchill
(42,660 posts)PortTack
(35,824 posts)Bluethroughu
(7,215 posts)Before pootin comes to get what is owed.
HandmaidsTaleUntold
(406 posts)Hes a traitor. Get rid of him.
Seinan Sensei
(1,631 posts)Captain Zero
(8,950 posts)In Philadelphia?? This past weekend?
ecstatic
(35,131 posts)Is if we demand it for months and hold hearings etc, like what happened with the J6 committee. Congress members had to publicly beg for Garland to do the right thing.
Unless we have the energy and patience for another round of that, it's not going to happen. Sadly.
2naSalit
(103,801 posts)And suffer real consequences for his decade+ of treason against us.
spanone
(142,029 posts)ProudMNDemocrat
(20,975 posts)Chainfire
(17,757 posts)to have taken bribes, so they made it happen. There will be no serious reprecussions because the system is broken.
DiverDave
(5,262 posts)They want the cash. They don't think about our country, or the people in it.
Lie, cheat,steal.
The bottom line is money.
I call them cheap whores, they bid for the cash.
Low bid for treason.
JustAnotherGen
(38,105 posts)That punk gets away with everything
Martin68
(28,052 posts)Russian intelligence link and that he knew the testimony was false.
NJCher
(43,470 posts)over who the article was discussing. I thought his name was Gym Jordan.