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In It to Win It

(12,651 posts)
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 04:34 PM Feb 2024

Nikki Haley sides with Alabama Supreme Court on IVF ruling: 'Embryos, to me, are babies'

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/nikki-haley-sides-alabama-supreme-court-ivf-ruling-embryos-are-babies-rcna139819


NORTH AUGUSTA, S.C. — Former U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley said Wednesday that frozen embryos created through in-vitro fertilization are “babies,” siding with a recent Alabama Supreme Court decision that raised concerns among doctors and patients about the future of the procedure.

“Embryos, to me, are babies,” Haley told NBC News in an interview, adding that she used artificial insemination to have her son, a different process than IVF that doesn't present the same complexities around creating embryos in a lab. "When you talk about an embryo, you are talking about, to me, that’s a life. And so I do see where that’s coming from when they talk about that.”

Classifying embryos as children under state law raises significant questions about whether the practice, used by families having trouble conceiving, could continue in states like Alabama. Unused embryos are often destroyed, which could open families or clinics up to wrongful death lawsuits under this policy. Storing frozen embryos, meanwhile, is expensive.

Later on Wednesday, the University of Alabama at Birmingham announced that it was pausing IVF treatments in response to the state Supreme Court ruling.



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Nikki Haley sides with Alabama Supreme Court on IVF ruling: 'Embryos, to me, are babies' (Original Post) In It to Win It Feb 2024 OP
She's an extremist. Nevilledog Feb 2024 #1
Or she plays one for political gain BootinUp Feb 2024 #11
This..👆. Haley has proven she's nothing more than an opportunist Docreed2003 Feb 2024 #19
Or both Cha Feb 2024 #31
Who is surprised by this? LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2024 #2
Agreed. I said the same of Ron DeSantis. In It to Win It Feb 2024 #10
This from a woman who denies the existence malaise Feb 2024 #3
I always keep a thermos or two in the front seat for the HOV lanes. Blues Heron Feb 2024 #4
Well we can vote against her crazy ass the same way we can vote MontanaMama Feb 2024 #5
What A Buffoon ProfessorGAC Feb 2024 #6
"Babies" that have to be kept locked up in freezers. tanyev Feb 2024 #7
Or cages Marthe48 Feb 2024 #29
So, what does she call embryos that are re-absorbed by a woman's body? Bayard Feb 2024 #8
Idiots. lindysalsagal Feb 2024 #21
God's will. Ferrets are Cool Feb 2024 #23
Really. NH speaks for god? What does Cha Feb 2024 #33
When it comes to science, wishing or believing doesn't make it so dlk Feb 2024 #9
Bright side to the ruling. SarahD Feb 2024 #12
links? I'm genuinely curious. nt ecstatic Feb 2024 #26
She is not fit to be president. Emile Feb 2024 #13
She is stupid and extreme. onecaliberal Feb 2024 #14
She crawled out from under the rock she MOMFUDSKI Feb 2024 #15
Lab created frozen clumps of cells are now babies. Freethinker65 Feb 2024 #16
Can you claim them on your taxes? CrispyQ Feb 2024 #17
This has been proposed before. Eugene Feb 2024 #32
Haley is Trump with better manners. dalton99a Feb 2024 #18
"Embryos, to me, are babies," MorbidButterflyTat Feb 2024 #20
So Haley, what about the unused ones? The ones that aren't needed? Ferrets are Cool Feb 2024 #22
When are their birthdays? aocommunalpunch Feb 2024 #24
She's unelectable, but I hope she stays in the race as long as possible. ecstatic Feb 2024 #25
She is silly, immature, simplistic, and self centered. Irish_Dem Feb 2024 #27
I just looked up artificial insemination vs IVF lanlady Feb 2024 #28
She is gross. Bristlecone Feb 2024 #30
Nikki, Nikki, Nikki... 2naSalit Feb 2024 #34
Right, Nikki because babies thrive in subzero temps Hassler Feb 2024 #35
Can she see those 'children' without a microscope? sinkingfeeling Feb 2024 #36
So Nikki, if you had needed IVF to get pregnant TexasBushwhacker Feb 2024 #37
She's a fucking liar ismnotwasm Feb 2024 #38
self removal republianmushroom Feb 2024 #39

Docreed2003

(18,714 posts)
19. This..👆. Haley has proven she's nothing more than an opportunist
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 05:17 PM
Feb 2024

She's desperately trying to remain relevant

LetMyPeopleVote

(179,869 posts)
2. Who is surprised by this?
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 04:37 PM
Feb 2024

Haley is a RWNJ who is probably more dangerous than TFG because she is a true believer in this crap while TFG is mainly transactional and only believes in crap that helps him

In It to Win It

(12,651 posts)
10. Agreed. I said the same of Ron DeSantis.
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 04:48 PM
Feb 2024

Trump is crazy but his craziness doesn't make these other people (Haley and DeSantis) "moderates." They are worse because they are true right wing ideologues in a way that Trump isn't.

malaise

(296,118 posts)
3. This from a woman who denies the existence
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 04:37 PM
Feb 2024

of racism in America - she ticks off all the MAGAt boxes

MontanaMama

(24,722 posts)
5. Well we can vote against her crazy ass the same way we can vote
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 04:39 PM
Feb 2024

against TSF. She's wrong on this and I believe the women of America will tell her just how wrong she is.

dlk

(13,247 posts)
9. When it comes to science, wishing or believing doesn't make it so
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 04:47 PM
Feb 2024

Haley has demonstrated the emotional maturity of a child and is thoroughly unfit to be president.

 

SarahD

(1,732 posts)
12. Bright side to the ruling.
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 04:51 PM
Feb 2024

It could slow down or stop all these bizarre fertility programs that burden the system and make health care more expensive. Not to mention, some of that stuff is very risky.

Freethinker65

(11,203 posts)
16. Lab created frozen clumps of cells are now babies.
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 05:01 PM
Feb 2024

Will Nikki agree to retroactive repayment of all of the back taxes to women that suffered miscarriages but were unable to declare dependents?

Or are clumps of cells created by actually fucking not considered babies?

CrispyQ

(40,970 posts)
17. Can you claim them on your taxes?
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 05:04 PM
Feb 2024

Just one of thousands of situations they never thought of before passing this heinous legislation.

Eugene

(67,101 posts)
32. This has been proposed before.
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 07:10 PM
Feb 2024

Do not underestimate how crazy these people can get.

MorbidButterflyTat

(4,512 posts)
20. "Embryos, to me, are babies,"
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 05:21 PM
Feb 2024

That's the point, right there. TO HER. So make your own personal decisions for yourself, and leave others to make their OWN CHOICES. No legislation needed.

Stop criminalizing women's healthcare!

Ferrets are Cool

(22,957 posts)
22. So Haley, what about the unused ones? The ones that aren't needed?
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 05:39 PM
Feb 2024

WHAT THE FUCK YOU GONNA DO ABOUT THEM IDIOT????? GOD, the people are so fucking stupid.

ecstatic

(35,075 posts)
25. She's unelectable, but I hope she stays in the race as long as possible.
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 06:47 PM
Feb 2024

Keep talking, nikki.

Irish_Dem

(81,271 posts)
27. She is silly, immature, simplistic, and self centered.
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 06:50 PM
Feb 2024

Being POTUS is not just about your personal feelings about issues.
It is way more complicated than that.

lanlady

(7,229 posts)
28. I just looked up artificial insemination vs IVF
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 06:57 PM
Feb 2024

Artificial insemination is only 1/3 as effective as IVF and completely useless for some women, such as those with blocked fallopian tubes.

I have a beautiful little grandson who is here on this earth only because his parents scraped up the money to undergo IVF. Nothing else worked for them.

So on behalf of my happy little family, FU Nicki.

2naSalit

(102,798 posts)
34. Nikki, Nikki, Nikki...
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 07:33 PM
Feb 2024

When this is all over, there's a special place in hell waiting for you.

TexasBushwhacker

(21,204 posts)
37. So Nikki, if you had needed IVF to get pregnant
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 08:12 PM
Feb 2024

are you saying you would not have done it? Would you have made that choice for your family?

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