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gab13by13

(21,641 posts)
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 09:23 PM Feb 2024

Jasmine Crockett Said It On MSNBC

Jasmine Crocket, member of the House oversight committee just said that if DOJ had waited much longer. Joe Biden would have been impeached for no reason.

She said we knew for years that the Hunter/Joe investigation was bogus and yet DOJ let it go on.

Still waiting on an appeal to force Smirnoff to wait for his trial in jail.

Has anyone given a thought to the possibility that Smirnov may have incriminating evidence against Congressional Magats.

Someone had better get him some protection and get him to jail.

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Jasmine Crockett Said It On MSNBC (Original Post) gab13by13 Feb 2024 OP
Not only do I think Smirnov has dirt on Repugs, I think he's in cahoots with somebody at DOJ/FBI. 50 Shades Of Blue Feb 2024 #1
Yeah, maybe he was told the jig was up gab13by13 Feb 2024 #15
How dirty might garland MOMFUDSKI Feb 2024 #30
Exactly what I was thinking Farmer-Rick Feb 2024 #55
Representative Crockett is a most rational and clear thinking public servant Attilatheblond Feb 2024 #2
She is fantastic and brave. gab13by13 Feb 2024 #16
And smart BigMin28 Feb 2024 #57
Do you think he is still in this country? chicoescuela Feb 2024 #3
It was reported this afternoon (Thursday Feb 22) that a re-arrest warrant was issued & he was taken into custody. Attilatheblond Feb 2024 #72
That's great news. Thank you chicoescuela Feb 2024 #73
No, I dont think he "has something" on anyone but himself. oldsoftie Feb 2024 #4
Did you read the report? gab13by13 Feb 2024 #18
Seems like at some point SOME of it would come out then, oldsoftie Feb 2024 #49
That's not possible in today's world, it's just not. CrispyQ Feb 2024 #61
Actually lots of systems are isolated. padfun Feb 2024 #71
I'll be surprised if he's even still around...he's probably long gone by now Deuxcents Feb 2024 #5
I see garlands shadow all around this issue... getagrip_already Feb 2024 #6
Maybe he didn't cave. Irish_Dem Feb 2024 #8
Garland is well known for giving speeches markodochartaigh Feb 2024 #43
If he can't believe what the federal society is capable of Irish_Dem Feb 2024 #48
Maybe the federalist society I_UndergroundPanther Feb 2024 #68
Authoritarians often work with markodochartaigh Feb 2024 #69
Funk Nasruddin Feb 2024 #17
Garland has some 'splainin' to do azureblue Feb 2024 #54
Of course he has incriminating information about FBI agents and members of congress. Irish_Dem Feb 2024 #7
But will it come out? gab13by13 Feb 2024 #19
Scotty is an Evil Freak that I can't bear to hear speak. PTL_Mancuso Feb 2024 #70
Supposidly the FBI... JPK Feb 2024 #9
100% guaranteed he has a suitcase full of passports. Irish_Dem Feb 2024 #12
Someone suggested that if he can make it to the Israeli embassy gab13by13 Feb 2024 #22
Yes. Usually intel assets have evacuation/escape plans, a number of them. Irish_Dem Feb 2024 #26
Yes, Putin wants an exchange, gab13by13 Feb 2024 #27
I didn't know the specifics. Irish_Dem Feb 2024 #47
Does orangecrush Feb 2024 #65
Um, its not the job of the DOJ to report that Members of Congress are lying... brooklynite Feb 2024 #10
It's called election interference, a crime. gab13by13 Feb 2024 #20
Unusually weak diversion dpibel Feb 2024 #23
Forgive me: I start from the weakened position of not "knowing" what others apparently do. brooklynite Feb 2024 #41
I forgive you dpibel Feb 2024 #44
if i were smirnoff i'd be BEGGING to be allowed to stay in jail Takket Feb 2024 #11
Jail Safe Nasruddin Feb 2024 #13
Im not sure Jeffery Epstein would agree.... bsiebs Feb 2024 #14
As long as Bill Barr doesn't visit the jail we're OK. gab13by13 Feb 2024 #21
oh but he "committed suicide" Takket Feb 2024 #32
I was gonna type 'He's gonna get Epsteined' ArkansasDemocrat1 Feb 2024 #38
The level of David Weiss' malfeasance is stunning dlk Feb 2024 #24
Federalist Society member Christopher Wray DURHAM D Feb 2024 #25
Wray should have been fired gab13by13 Feb 2024 #29
They're keeping that powder dry until sometime in late October. nt Wednesdays Feb 2024 #33
"keeping that powder dry" redqueen Feb 2024 #52
FBI/DOJ complicity in that farce is the least surprising thing about it. RockRaven Feb 2024 #28
Right now I think we are just beginning to see the tip of the iceberg. flashman13 Feb 2024 #31
IF we had a true honest press working for the public Wednesdays Feb 2024 #35
I think we may be at the 'Captain Smith, Iceberg ahead" moment of this little conspiracy ArkansasDemocrat1 Feb 2024 #39
Is there any possibility that the DOJ was letting rope out so these folks can hang themselves? GuppyGal Feb 2024 #34
I don't give them that much credit Voltaire2 Feb 2024 #66
Here's the video for those who missed it: Rhiannon12866 Feb 2024 #36
Thanks! Goddessartist Feb 2024 #56
She was very good, has become one of my favorites. I only wish I could trade her for the one I'm stuck with (Stefanik) Rhiannon12866 Feb 2024 #67
Oh Goddessartist Feb 2024 #77
And the GOP is still sitting on their hands waiting for Russia to give them their next orders bhikkhu Feb 2024 #37
Justice delayed, is justice denied. Giving those GOP assholes too much time to sell off our country. Baitball Blogger Feb 2024 #40
They still want to impeach him for no reason Johonny Feb 2024 #42
Tall buildings flying-skeleton Feb 2024 #45
and taking 'walks' nt et tu Feb 2024 #50
How dare you suggest that the DoJ isn't always moving as fast as it can to get justice done! Silent3 Feb 2024 #46
EmptyWheel has an update to this gab13by13 Feb 2024 #51
Maybe all hell is about to come down. triron Feb 2024 #58
It appears Empty Wheel has finally removed the thick wool veil from their eyes with regards to the AG? msfiddlestix Feb 2024 #59
Where is smirnov now? triron Feb 2024 #60
Where does Empty Wheel get this information? progressoid Feb 2024 #64
This begs the question, why does Garland still have a job? nt jrthin Feb 2024 #53
I have been saying it for a while, Garland may be a very good lawyer, but he is weak as a DOJ director, or Escurumbele Feb 2024 #62
+1000. Paladin Feb 2024 #63
Love to hear what he knows in a plea deal Evolve Dammit Feb 2024 #74
Kick. dchill Feb 2024 #75
Kik! WheelWalker Feb 2024 #76

50 Shades Of Blue

(10,172 posts)
1. Not only do I think Smirnov has dirt on Repugs, I think he's in cahoots with somebody at DOJ/FBI.
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 09:26 PM
Feb 2024

The real headscratcher for me is David Weiss of all people being the one to finally try to nail Smirnov.

Farmer-Rick

(10,279 posts)
55. Exactly what I was thinking
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 10:46 AM
Feb 2024

Garland maybe a Russian asset too? Or just another GOP loving idiot who betrays his country for money.

Attilatheblond

(2,326 posts)
2. Representative Crockett is a most rational and clear thinking public servant
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 09:28 PM
Feb 2024

She can see the connections many can't or won't and she has the courage to speak honestly. More like her, please.

I hope to live long enough to see her sworn in as Speaker of the House someday.

Attilatheblond

(2,326 posts)
72. It was reported this afternoon (Thursday Feb 22) that a re-arrest warrant was issued & he was taken into custody.
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 08:10 PM
Feb 2024

With the slew of recent deaths of Russian dissidents and critics, it might have been for his own protection. Or the FBI might have found credible evidence that he was gonna flee. But it was reported Thursday afternoon, he was re-arrested and remains in custody.

oldsoftie

(12,721 posts)
4. No, I dont think he "has something" on anyone but himself.
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 09:29 PM
Feb 2024

I dont know why he'd be helping people he "had something" on. And every time anything happens the FIRST reaction is "they've got something on him/her"

gab13by13

(21,641 posts)
18. Did you read the report?
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 10:11 PM
Feb 2024

Russia eavesdropped on high ranking Washington officials speaking on cell phones, and that was just one example.

Federalist Society member Christopher Wray has been talking about China hacking into our infrastructure, meanwhile he has said nothing about Russia doing the same thing. My daughter worked at a company 2 years ago that was hacked by Russia, they had no choice but to pay the ransom.

We kick Russia's ass in a war but Russia takes advantage of our open society to commit cyber warfare on us, of course Russia has Kompromat on people.

oldsoftie

(12,721 posts)
49. Seems like at some point SOME of it would come out then,
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 07:50 AM
Feb 2024

I just hear the SAME thing from people one the Right every time someone goes against trump; "They've got something on him!!"

To your other point, I'm no software/IT professional, but why cant 'we" harden these hacking targets? These are not new businesses or facilities. We HAD water systems before computers. We HAD hospitals before computers. Etc. Why cant these places cut themselves off from being attacked from the outside? Especially water debts, electrical & fuel systems. We had water service long before computers, why do systems need to be connected to the internet? We does EVERY business have to be connected to the outside? And if you insist on nit, then separate your critical systems from the rest & have NO exposure to the outside world for your personal info or business secrets or whatever.

CrispyQ

(36,646 posts)
61. That's not possible in today's world, it's just not.
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 12:22 PM
Feb 2024

We're too interconnected. Every credit card transaction would have to be called in. A global company would have to share personnel records by mail. We're a global digital network, like it or not. The only way digital is going away is if the lights go out forever.

There is no foolproof way to keep hackers out but IMO a lot of companies are cheap, lazy, or incompetent & could have avoided being hacked by not being the low hanging fruit. I used to try to log onto systems a week after I quit & I found two systems that let me in. I have friends who have found the same. I've worked for companies that never required employees to change their logon password. If a business isn't sure how to harden their systems they should hire someone. But that costs money.

padfun

(1,795 posts)
71. Actually lots of systems are isolated.
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 07:49 PM
Feb 2024

I worked IT for the State of California and we have some systems that we isolated. they were connected either by VPN or by IP but not connected to any other system. (In the old days we used dummy terminals connected by token ring and they were pretty isolated, but old technology)

However, if any of these businesses do online business, need massive connections with employees, or have any email systems connected that can be accessed from outside of the gateway, then their vulnerability exists and is hard to isolate.

getagrip_already

(15,152 posts)
6. I see garlands shadow all around this issue...
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 09:30 PM
Feb 2024

The doj sat on this because it was near and dear to the house gop.

They threatened him and he caved.

Irish_Dem

(48,880 posts)
8. Maybe he didn't cave.
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 09:32 PM
Feb 2024

Maybe he was in agreement.

But yes, he is either a coward or complicit.
Or some of both.

markodochartaigh

(1,214 posts)
43. Garland is well known for giving speeches
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 12:33 AM
Feb 2024

at the Federalist Society. I think that he can't bring himself to believe that some of his esteemed colleagues actually would end democracy in the US if they can't be in power. When Federalist Society members spent 7 million dollars to block his appointment he should have woken up.


https://fedsoc.org/contributors/merrick-garland




https://www.whitehouse.senate.gov/news/speeches/the-third-federalist-society

Irish_Dem

(48,880 posts)
48. If he can't believe what the federal society is capable of
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 07:33 AM
Feb 2024

then we have to add stupid to the list of possibilities when it comes to Garland.

I'm sorry to be blunt here about Garland, but it's looking more and more like he's responsible and part of ending democracy in this country. And certainly damaging the rule of law.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,526 posts)
68. Maybe the federalist society
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 07:14 PM
Feb 2024

Is a treasonous organization.
Maybe working with russia

Maybe the federalist society should be investigated.

Nasruddin

(758 posts)
17. Funk
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 10:07 PM
Feb 2024

There is a real funk around Garland right now.

It's clear to me that the leadership of the DOJ needs to be replaced - immediately.

azureblue

(2,163 posts)
54. Garland has some 'splainin' to do
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 10:29 AM
Feb 2024

G and the DOJ knew the informant Smirnov was feeding Russian propaganda to Repubs, and G did nothing about that at all. When the report was handed over to the committee, it should have come with a huge red flag, but it didn't. In fact, it should not even had been released, because it was known it was a pack of lies to begin with.

Garland needs to be called on the carpet, even to the oval office, to explain his failure to warn and his inaction to locate and arrest Smirnov. Then fired, as in go home do not go back to the office.

In essence, as is Jordan and Comer, they knowingly aided and abetted the enemy --- treason..

Why do we let these things go? I mean, I read about Smirnov's lies way back before the committee was formed, and it amazed me that nothing was done to call out his lies. Smirnov's lies were ignored from the very beginning.

Irish_Dem

(48,880 posts)
7. Of course he has incriminating information about FBI agents and members of congress.
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 09:31 PM
Feb 2024

They knew what he was and didn't care.
He probably can prove it.

And there is more to this story. We can count on that.

gab13by13

(21,641 posts)
19. But will it come out?
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 10:14 PM
Feb 2024

Don't forget that garland gave Congressional Magats immunity. Still waiting on a Scott Perry indictment, I am told a while back the FBI seized his phone. I saw him on TV today bashing Hunter and Joe Biden.

 

PTL_Mancuso

(276 posts)
70. Scotty is an Evil Freak that I can't bear to hear speak.
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 07:45 PM
Feb 2024

I see nothing good coming out of him, behavior-wise.

Irish_Dem

(48,880 posts)
12. 100% guaranteed he has a suitcase full of passports.
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 09:59 PM
Feb 2024

Fake names, different countries, etc.

Standard for intel assets.

And a big stash of cash hidden somewhere.

These guys are not stupid and this is standard protocol.

gab13by13

(21,641 posts)
22. Someone suggested that if he can make it to the Israeli embassy
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 10:19 PM
Feb 2024

he will be home free. They will get him out of the country and won't extradite him back.

Irish_Dem

(48,880 posts)
26. Yes. Usually intel assets have evacuation/escape plans, a number of them.
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 10:26 PM
Feb 2024

They are trained to get out of tight situations and retreat safely.

Disguises, safe houses, people to call.
This is part of their job.

I don't know if Israel wants to get in the middle of this, since they want US aid for their war.

Also Putin just arrested in Russia a dual citizenship (Russia/American) for a minor crime.
Putin is getting some bargaining chips ready for an exchange I think.
Who knows?

gab13by13

(21,641 posts)
27. Yes, Putin wants an exchange,
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 10:31 PM
Feb 2024

one of his pals is in a prison in Germany for poisoning someone, I apologize I forget who. Putin wants to trade.

Irish_Dem

(48,880 posts)
47. I didn't know the specifics.
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 07:31 AM
Feb 2024

But as soon as I heard he arrested this woman for a minor crime, I figured he was gathering up some possible
exchange poker chips.

And then the US state department and Biden warned Americans to get out of Russia now.

Right now Putin is riding high, he almost comes across as somewhat manic. Killed Navalny, has gained the advantage in Ukraine, is no longer hiding his involvement in US politics, did the interview with Tucker, pretended to be pro Biden. Putin has come out of a secure bunker and he's being very public and obviously quite pleased with himself.

brooklynite

(95,254 posts)
10. Um, its not the job of the DOJ to report that Members of Congress are lying...
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 09:47 PM
Feb 2024

...or to correct their "research" if not requested.

gab13by13

(21,641 posts)
20. It's called election interference, a crime.
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 10:17 PM
Feb 2024

As a matter of fact that is what Trump is being tried for coming up.

If members of Congress colluded with Russian GRU agents to interfere in our election, Garland should just look the other way?

dpibel

(2,920 posts)
23. Unusually weak diversion
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 10:21 PM
Feb 2024

Since the OP asserted neither of the things you are pretending to gainsay, you've made no point at all.

It is, I believe, the job of the FBI and the DOJ to look out for foreign agents who are feeding information to American officials. Maybe even arrest them when it becomes clear what they're up to.

As ever, your interdimensional mileage seems to differ.

brooklynite

(95,254 posts)
41. Forgive me: I start from the weakened position of not "knowing" what others apparently do.
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 12:12 AM
Feb 2024

...like "knowing" foreign agents are feeding information to American (presumably Republican) officials.

dpibel

(2,920 posts)
44. I forgive you
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 01:29 AM
Feb 2024

for apparently not paying attention to the information that is readily at hand.

It's hard, I guess.

But really: You don't believe that the information that Smirnov was dirty was available a long time ago?

I realize your persona is naive. But that's going far...

Takket

(21,782 posts)
11. if i were smirnoff i'd be BEGGING to be allowed to stay in jail
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 09:47 PM
Feb 2024

putin has a window with his name on it

gab13by13

(21,641 posts)
29. Wray should have been fired
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 10:36 PM
Feb 2024

when he lied to Congress about the intelligence leading up to J6.

Why do Democrats always keep Republican holdovers? I know Wray serves a 10 year term but he lied to Congress.

Even Jerome Powell is a Trump holdover. I can't wait for him to do something called "Fed Speak," that's when he says something negative and causes the markets to crash.

redqueen

(115,113 posts)
52. "keeping that powder dry"
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 09:42 AM
Feb 2024

Is your post sarcasm?

The use of that particular phrase makes me think so.

flashman13

(705 posts)
31. Right now I think we are just beginning to see the tip of the iceberg.
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 10:51 PM
Feb 2024

There is something extremely sketchy going on here. It seems like you can't turn over a rock without finding a Russian. This could turn into a major and far reaching scandal.

GuppyGal

(1,748 posts)
34. Is there any possibility that the DOJ was letting rope out so these folks can hang themselves?
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 11:28 PM
Feb 2024

You bring up a very good point then...why the fuck let this bullshit go on?

Voltaire2

(13,441 posts)
66. I don't give them that much credit
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 05:03 PM
Feb 2024

Instead it is more likely that their reluctance to interfere in the republican impeachment event was entirely political. This stinks, stinks bad, and the other fact that major news organizations like The New York 'but her emails' Times are continuing to bury this story just adds to the smell of rot and corruption.

Rhiannon12866

(207,822 posts)
36. Here's the video for those who missed it:
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 11:31 PM
Feb 2024
'Embarrassing': Republicans scramble after arrest of 'star witness' in Biden probe - Inside w/Jen Psaki - MSNBC
https://www.democraticunderground.com/132110877

Rep. Jasmine Crockett joins Jen Psaki to discuss the implosion of the GOP impeachment probe after the arrest of Republicans’ star witness. - Aired on 02/21/2024.

Rhiannon12866

(207,822 posts)
67. She was very good, has become one of my favorites. I only wish I could trade her for the one I'm stuck with (Stefanik)
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 06:46 PM
Feb 2024

bhikkhu

(10,730 posts)
37. And the GOP is still sitting on their hands waiting for Russia to give them their next orders
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 11:43 PM
Feb 2024

This is just so ridiculously fucked up. How a conspiracy minded bunch of RW idiots is letting themselves be led by the nose by a foreign government that doesn't give one shit for them...if someone wrote this as a screenplay or something they would get laughed out of the room, just too implausible, Americans could never be so stupid.

Baitball Blogger

(46,847 posts)
40. Justice delayed, is justice denied. Giving those GOP assholes too much time to sell off our country.
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 12:04 AM
Feb 2024

"She said we knew for years that the Hunter/Joe investigation was bogus and yet DOJ let it go on. "

Silent3

(15,498 posts)
46. How dare you suggest that the DoJ isn't always moving as fast as it can to get justice done!
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 03:19 AM
Feb 2024

No, no, no! Unless you have inside info so detailed that there's no way you could have legally acquired it, you must assume the best and only the best!

gab13by13

(21,641 posts)
51. EmptyWheel has an update to this
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 09:37 AM
Feb 2024

Weiss indicted Smirnov because the judge was about to release discovery to Hunter's lawyer and that discovery implicated Weiss, Rosen, Donaghue, Bill Barr. Now the plan is to offer Smirnov a sweetheart plea deal to keep his silence, and Merrick Garland is well aware of all of this.

msfiddlestix

(7,290 posts)
59. It appears Empty Wheel has finally removed the thick wool veil from their eyes with regards to the AG?
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 11:50 AM
Feb 2024

I haven't been following, but for the past 3 or 4 years I've seen postings from EW essentially justifying every questionable moment of inaction from the DOJ... justifying and ridiculing expressions of criticisms , concerns, confusion etc.

Escurumbele

(3,430 posts)
62. I have been saying it for a while, Garland may be a very good lawyer, but he is weak as a DOJ director, or
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 12:30 PM
Feb 2024

worst, he is a loyal republican who actually likes trump but doesn't say it. I have been vocal about Garland here at DU, and I have been hammered because of it, but I believe he has helped trump in his delay tactics, willingly or not. trump should already be in jail, the investigation should have been started years ago and the trials should all be over by now, but because of Garland, things have gone very slow. The question is, was that done to help the buffoon? Garland seems to be extremely concerned with "what people will say" and is afraid to act according to the rule of law where people's opinions do not matter, the law is the law and people's opinions do not have any weight on what the law dictates.

Paladin

(28,307 posts)
63. +1000.
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 01:59 PM
Feb 2024

trump and his goons continue to goose-step across what's left of this country, paying little or no actual price for their non-stop lawbreaking. Garland is the wrong person, in the wrong position, at the wrong time.

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