Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
22 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Damn good tweet right here (Original Post) kpete Feb 2024 OP
How many embryos do I need to get a group rate? Baitball Blogger Feb 2024 #1
Take your daughter to work day? SarahD Feb 2024 #2
Pregnant woman in car pool lane cbabe Feb 2024 #3
Probably back in the 1990s or early 2000s... cojoel Feb 2024 #8
How about declaring them as dependents on your tax return? n/t thesquanderer Feb 2024 #4
This is a really good point, actually SpankMe Feb 2024 #9
re: "relationship must be son or daughter...But, an embryo can't be sexed without destroying it" thesquanderer Feb 2024 #13
How about eggs? Are eggs "persons?" Aviation Pro Feb 2024 #5
repukes think eggs are human beings Skittles Feb 2024 #16
I don't know about eggs, but every sperm is sacred... iscooterliberally Feb 2024 #19
Are embryos now to be counted thucythucy Feb 2024 #6
Tax Filing Dependent HandmaidsTaleUntold Feb 2024 #7
What if I use the wrong pronoun when referring to my embryo? Will I go to prison? chowder66 Feb 2024 #10
Maybe this works for a man with an embryo. SleeplessinSoCal Feb 2024 #11
Perfect malaise Feb 2024 #12
Original link... Pluvious Feb 2024 #14
Isn't freezing children solid ... child abuse? MiHale Feb 2024 #15
When the embryo gets to work... mwooldri Feb 2024 #17
They won't have their 40 quarters Old Crank Feb 2024 #18
I like that toon that shows a couple trying to claim the embryos as dependents SouthernDem4ever Feb 2024 #20
Another benefit of having an embryo child: No babysitter needed... Purrfessor Feb 2024 #21
Embryo def. Prairie_Seagull Feb 2024 #22

cbabe

(3,658 posts)
3. Pregnant woman in car pool lane
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 02:07 PM
Feb 2024

(Several stories if you search around)

https://www.cnn.com › 2022 › 07 › 11 › us › pregnant-woman-hov-lane › index.html

A pregnant woman got a ticket for driving in the HOV lane in ... - CNN

Jul 12, 2022CNN — Brandy Bottone was driving in the HOV lane meant for at least two people per vehicle in Dallas, Texas, two

cojoel

(964 posts)
8. Probably back in the 1990s or early 2000s...
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 03:59 PM
Feb 2024

There was a case in Orange County California on the San Diego Freeway, where a pregnant woman was riding in the Carpool Lane alone. She was pulled over and told the officer she was pregnant and that counted as the second person. The officer (who was probably trained to be prepared for this) said if that were the case, he would have to cite her for (a) having a child not in an approved car seat for a child under the required wait, and (2) two people sharing one seat belt. With the fine for those two offenses totally more than the car pool lane violation, she accepted the ticket for the car pool violation.

SpankMe

(3,010 posts)
9. This is a really good point, actually
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 04:19 PM
Feb 2024

I saw a posting on this in another forum. If stored embryos have the same status as living children, and the parents are paying a monthly fee to keep them in storage, then the parents are effectively providing financial support. This allows them to declare them as dependents on tax forms - state taxes, at least. If you have 15 embryos in storage, that's quite a deduction!

From the Alabama Department of Revenue web site:

A dependent as defined under Alabama law is an individual other than the taxpayer and his or her spouse who received over 50% of his or her support from the taxpayer during the tax year and is also related to the taxpayer in one of the following relationships: Son. Stepmother. Daughter.

But...the following passage also appears on the same page:

You can take an exemption for a dependent who was born or who died during the tax year if he or she met the qualifications for a dependent while alive. This means that a baby who lived only a few minutes can be claimed as a dependent.

So, this leaves the dickheads with a conflict: The tax law seems say that the child has to be born to qualify as a whole person for the purposes of taxes. But, the court ruling holds that an embryo is a whole person for the purposes of criminal prosecution for harm to a child or homicide.

Also, the statute says that the relationship must be son or daughter (among the other relationships). But, an embryo can't be sexed without destroying it. So, they'd have to revise the statute to say child. But, that would have them admitting that a human entity or specimen can be genderless!

Someone should try this at the state tax level and see how it turns out...and watch heads explode.

thesquanderer

(12,055 posts)
13. re: "relationship must be son or daughter...But, an embryo can't be sexed without destroying it"
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 05:47 PM
Feb 2024

I don't think that would matter. From a legal perspective, I think one could legitimately assume it would be either a son or a daughter, and therefore would qualify as being a son or daughter, even absent any proof of which one it was,

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,306 posts)
11. Maybe this works for a man with an embryo.
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 05:41 PM
Feb 2024

But not a woman.

"The Texas woman who was issued a traffic ticket for violating an HOV law revealed that she was ticketed not once, but twice."

This should be a case with an eye towards SCOTUS.

https://www.today.com/parents/moms/pregnant-texas-woman-hov-lane-second-ticket-rcna45631

mwooldri

(10,323 posts)
17. When the embryo gets to work...
Fri Feb 23, 2024, 10:23 AM
Feb 2024

... What bathroom should the embryo use?

Does it claim Social Security benefits if it's been frozen for 65 years after creation? Medicare? Other Senior discounts?

Purrfessor

(1,188 posts)
21. Another benefit of having an embryo child: No babysitter needed...
Fri Feb 23, 2024, 12:15 PM
Feb 2024

Just pop little Emory in the freezer on date night.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Damn good tweet right her...