AI is scary. I know I am an old fuddy duddy but

[leftyladyfrommo]

this scared me. My insurance agent said his college student son told him that he had used AI for his paper that was due. He said all the kids were doing that and he was in a hurry.

AI is programed so that no 2 papers on a subject are alike so the professors can't catch them.

Are we going to have any educated citizens? Or is all knowlege just going to be stored on a computer somewhere and people don't need to bother with learning anything?

[redstatebluegirl]

1. The young people in college now think cheating wit AI

Is not cheating. If you really want a scare, lab books in science courses pre med students take are being generated by AI.

Then you have engineering courses that students are required to take finding excessive cheating using AI.

These students will be doctors and the engineers the build our bridges and buildings. Terrifying, mommy and daddy are ok with it too as long as they graduate with a perfect GPA.

Glad I am no longer working in Higher Ed, my husband has 8 more years teaching in a STEM discipline. He grows more weary by the day.

[jimfields33]

8. Maybe professors will have to give tests and essay tests in class.

I always hated the busy work they gave. The students would still research, but the students would have to write the essays in class. Professors are going to have to get creative.

[Torchlight]

16. lol

[Elessar Zappa]

9. They'll have to do in-class assignments.

It can be done.

[Amishman]

33. It doesn't have to be all in-class essays, just enough to give a sample.

Tools can be developed to compare the proctored in class essays to the home written assignments, and flag those that are significantly different.

Another option is to develop secure portals where students are required to write their essays. That secure application can be set up to monitor writing habits. Someone composing original work will behave very differently than someone retyping external content.

There are options to essentially fight fire with fire.

[redqueen]

2. Students have been cheating for years.

It's just now they use AI to do it instead of paying classmates.

What's actually scary is how many students have given up. They see climate change, useless degrees, inability to afford housing, etc, and many simply don't see the point in even trying to join society. THAT is what scares me.

[leftyladyfrommo]

5. I am lost in this brave new world. It's not

going to go away. Seems like it is rippling out in every direction

[PatSeg]

41. I am as well

I can handle change and usually welcome new technology, but now I'm getting a glimpse at a world that is hardly recognizable. I am picturing a world with no real creativity or innovation and it is really depressing.

[surrealAmerican]

15. This.

It used to be only the wealthy students could do this - now it's everybody.

On your other point: we've been here before. My generation figured we'd all be killed in a nuclear war before there was any chance to have a career.

[redqueen]

22. We haven't though. Nuclear war was a maybe. Climate change is well underway

Jobs are disappearing because of AI. Grift is everywhere. Social media is a cancer. They keep hearing about the great economy and all the jobs but that's not reality for a whole lot of people.

So many people are isolated and feel increasingly hopeless. Especially teenagers. I wish this issue was taken more seriously.

[Scrivener7]

3. AI is the devil.

[The Contrarian]

18. Thats what they said about the loom

And the automobile. We will adjust. (this post was written by AI)

[Scrivener7]

23. Yes, we will. Like frogs in a pot of boiling water adjust.

[New Breed Leader]

32. Damn right it is

[John Shaft]

4. People were scared of horseless carriages once . . .

[Yavin4]

6. Or academia can adapt to AI and develop other methods for evaluation

More in class assignments. More project level assignments. More group assignments. Or, something else entirely. All is not lost. People didn't forget basic arithmetic bc of calculators.

[Silent3]

13. While it's possible academia might adapt, that will take time, and many years of students...

...might be going out into the world poorly educated for what they're supposed to be doing in the meantime.

[Yavin4]

21. The exact same thing was said about calculators

They were protesting a National Council of Teachers of Mathematics policy recommending "the integration of the calculator into the school mathematics program at all grade levels in classwork, homework and evaluation." The policy urges that "at each grade level every student should be taught how and when to use the calculator."

Saxon and the other picketers said elementary school use of calculators, which one teacher dubbed "security boxes," would leave students with no reason to learn computational skills.

https://archive.is/20230319073106/https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/1986/04/04/math-teachers-stage-a-calculated-protest/c003ddaf-b86f-4f2b-92ca-08533f3a5896/

[keithbvadu2]

35. Went to military technical school 1973. Learned the slipstick. Calculators were just coming out.

Went to military technical school 1973. Learned the slipstick. Calculators were just coming out. Bought a Texas instruments calculator for a nickel under a hundred bucks. Four functions plus a constant.
Chain of command wondered if calculators gave students an unfair advantage so they developed a test and you could use either one. Turned out to be quite even. The calculator might be more accurate for the individual computation but you had to understand the process to solve the problem.

[Shermann]

7. This problem is sort of self-correcting

If AI can do a job better than you can, employers will surely use it instead of hiring you. So, make yourself smarter than AI. This is not as difficult as it sounds.

[SnarkSavant]

10. It's those rotary phones that scare me.

[Voltaire2]

11. The chat-bots are so vastly better (when not hallucinating) than the totally enshitified google

that it is clear that this level of ai, a fully conversational level across multiple media formats and languages, is a truly great new tool for humanity, and perhaps for some non-human species as well.

It is and will cause major problems as humans adjust to it.

[Mossfern]

12. In-class exams

with blue books ... and written in cursive!
No calculators permitted for math exams.

[WarGamer]

14. I hear ya...

But AI has remarkable potential.

There next step is "personal AI"

Personal AI (PAI) is basically "blank slate" AI, meaning it's programming starts with meeting YOU and getting to know you... then filling in the gaps in its knowledge and understanding of the world.

PAI will eventually talk to you. Good morning, LL... did you take your prescriptions this morning? BTW, your protein levels in urine are elevated... shall I call your GP?

Have you thought more about the conversation with your sister last night? How should her son handle the issue?

There's breaking news on MSNBC... an update on Trump's legal issues. The clown is getting closer to prison as the days pass by...







You see... PAI uses the same resources as WWW AI but it learns YOU. And this "instance" of AI services ONLY you.

[leftyladyfrommo]

19. Is that what Bill Gates meant by personal

assistant? I heard him say that whoever got the personal assistant first would blow Amazon out of the water.

[WarGamer]

20. Pretty much!!

But the home assistant I will be like a digital friend... great potential for older folks who tend to be lonely.

Sometimes it'd just be nice to watch a movie with someone who can interject and make comments during the movie...

Some people think it's creepy... I think it's great.

[Scrivener7]

25. "I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that."

[Torchlight]

17. I think it's just another step forward.

Each major tech advance (at leasst since the eighties) came bundled with end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it hype. And we adapt. Somtimes the adaptation is built on even more tech. But I still see kids still reading hard bound books, so I maintain an optomnistic hope.

[edisdead]

30. great take.

[Johnny2X2X]

24. Just wait until AI actually exists

...

[edisdead]

27. Well said.

What we have now is Imitative Intelligence.

[Johnny2X2X]

28. It is impressive

But what we have now is a search engine who can organize and in some cases interpret, search results.

Anything that belies actual intelligence is in fact as you said, imitative intelligence.

[edisdead]

26. Wait kids are cheating on papers?

Never happened in my day!

[Diraven]

29. But professors can catch them

Today's AI is not truly intelligent. Basically it just mimics intelligence by copying and imitation, but from millions of sources at once so it seems original. My wife is a college professor. A good teacher can still spot AI-written stuff by eye. Also her school has tools that automatically scan written assignments and tell them the percentage probability that it was written by AI. Material that AI writes will show as 90+ percent.

[leftyladyfrommo]

40. That's interesting. Thank you

[New Breed Leader]

31. I'm with you, I don't like AI either

and it's going to do way more harm than good, idc what anyone says

[XanaDUer2]

37. This

Its gonna make social media look innocent. Like, its gonna fuck over tons of people.

[leftyladyfrommo]

39. That's what I'm afraid of, too. There's always

a bunch of grifters out there that will use it to scam people.

[Mountainguy]

34. "They cant tell"

Yes they can, and some will nail them for it.

[keithbvadu2]

36. Let's ask that guy.

[leftyladyfrommo]

38. Those are great. Thank you

[New Breed Leader]

42. thanks for these. There was another really good one.

It had Chucky in it. He represented AI, and he says his famous line, 'Hi, I'm chucky wanna play" and behind him he's holding a knife