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William769

(59,147 posts)
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 09:33 PM Feb 2024

Is it time to revolutionize the toilet?

(CNN) — Consider the toilet — that humble porcelain bowl that spirits away our waste several times a day. It’s not a piece of technology that often gets flashy updates (though dual flushing, seat warming and electronic bidet features can certainly elevate it), nor is it a darling of the design world.

But toilets are in desperate need of an upgrade — as is our entire approach to sewage, according to the many designers, environmental engineers and sanitation experts hoping to bring about a paradigm shift.

Flushing our waste is, well, wasteful, accounting for nearly a third of indoor water use in US homes, according to the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA). In many parts of the world, the use of water toilets has become increasingly fraught as climate change ushers in extreme droughts and flooding, which backs up sewers and overflows septic tanks. In disaster zones, or places without access to running water, the need for innovation is even more urgent.

The designer bringing Italian furniture to one of Kenya’s oldest slums
Rethinking how we deal with waste may also present an opportunity: Our excrement can be converted into renewable heat, electricity and fertilizer.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/22/style/toilet-design-future-waste-design-for-impact/index.html

Please don't flush this food for thought down the toilet.

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Is it time to revolutionize the toilet? (Original Post) William769 Feb 2024 OP
Here's an idea: PCIntern Feb 2024 #1
Impractical, because Sears catalogues are no longer produced. Sneederbunk Feb 2024 #2
No, but they are still making corncobs. Chainfire Feb 2024 #16
Exactly what I was thinking Mossfern Feb 2024 #3
Composting toilets? dpibel Feb 2024 #9
Shhh...don't tempt the Make Cholera Great Again crowd. BadgerKid Feb 2024 #13
Sarcasm noted...but what about incinerating toilets? harumph Feb 2024 #15
I have been surprised that the toilet and bathroom has not changed much in many years. Irish_Dem Feb 2024 #4
If it ain't broken... NutmegYankee Feb 2024 #7
Yes that may always be the situation. Irish_Dem Feb 2024 #14
Because modern plumbing works. Chainfire Feb 2024 #17
I would think there would be some significant changes at some point. Irish_Dem Feb 2024 #20
Does it smell? Does it require more work? dsp3000 Feb 2024 #5
. ret5hd Feb 2024 #6
Why we are doomed dpibel Feb 2024 #12
I know I did. dsp3000 Feb 2024 #22
Ha! What movie was it that had the 'three sea shells' in the bathroom instead of TP?? Talitha Feb 2024 #8
Are you quite sure? dpibel Feb 2024 #10
Yeah, it was a long time ago and all we saw was a brochure. Talitha Feb 2024 #19
That's all very lovely BannonsLiver Feb 2024 #21
Demolition Man Ace Rothstein Feb 2024 #11
Nicely done! Talitha Feb 2024 #18

PCIntern

(28,498 posts)
1. Here's an idea:
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 09:45 PM
Feb 2024

You can “go” inside your house into…let’s call it…what…got it! A chamber pot!!! Yes!!! Then you can take it outside and dump it in a hole which has been dug to receive human waste. In the “fine seasons” one might utilize a small structure out of the house…what to call it…hmmm..an OUTHOUSE! Where one might have some privacy while using….aha! Yes! The privy!!!

That’s what I call progress!!!


Or, you could just dump it into the streets like they did in the good old days.

On edit: there are many sound public health reasons why we flush sewage away in water. This is why we don’t have plague in the United States anymore.

 

Chainfire

(17,757 posts)
16. No, but they are still making corncobs.
Fri Feb 23, 2024, 09:46 AM
Feb 2024

If we run short, I am sure someone could make them from plastic.

dpibel

(4,000 posts)
9. Composting toilets?
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 11:30 PM
Feb 2024

You do know about them?

I mean, you are seriously proposing that the people who are now critiquing the flush toilet system don't know about cholera?

harumph

(3,342 posts)
15. Sarcasm noted...but what about incinerating toilets?
Fri Feb 23, 2024, 08:44 AM
Feb 2024

There are a few - and they don't require much propane or natural gas.

https://incineratingtoilets.com/us/

TA-DA!

Irish_Dem

(81,978 posts)
4. I have been surprised that the toilet and bathroom has not changed much in many years.
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 09:55 PM
Feb 2024

One area of the house that stays the same.

NutmegYankee

(16,483 posts)
7. If it ain't broken...
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 10:26 PM
Feb 2024

One of the neat details in the Starfield game that takes place in the 24th century is that every craft and dwelling has a bathroom that looks familiar.

dsp3000

(685 posts)
5. Does it smell? Does it require more work?
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 09:58 PM
Feb 2024

if so? then I want nothing to do with it in my house, and i'm sure that's going to be the sentiment of many others.

dpibel

(4,000 posts)
12. Why we are doomed
Fri Feb 23, 2024, 01:26 AM
Feb 2024

You've captured it perfectly!

Lowering carbon emissions would require me to drive less? Then I want nothing to do with it.

Solving poverty might mean I didn't have quite so much? Count me out.

You have stated the Darwinian imperative with precision. And that is why the prospects for survival are dim.

dsp3000

(685 posts)
22. I know I did.
Fri Feb 23, 2024, 01:13 PM
Feb 2024

Look, i'm as liberal as most of you guys here and if i feel like that, can you imagine a red hat maga who thinks their basic potty rights are being infringed? or simply other non political types who just want a nice clean toilet that functions like they've known their entire lives? If this can be implemented so that it has minimal change to people's lives then it would be a go, but of course it will be a more expensive solution. Built in deodorizers ... i dunno?

Talitha

(8,105 posts)
8. Ha! What movie was it that had the 'three sea shells' in the bathroom instead of TP??
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 10:49 PM
Feb 2024

Can't even remember who was in it.

Anyway, when we built our house 30 years ago, we looked into a composting toilet - Swedish design, IIRC. The details escape me but there was a drum of sorts that needed to be rotated every day - reminded me of that scene in Apollo 13 when they asked the astronauts to 'stir the tanks' and all hell broke loose. In the long run we weren't confident about getting something so unusual, and opted for a regular water system. But yes, I agree that using all that water is quite wasteful, especially if there's a do-able alternative.

dpibel

(4,000 posts)
10. Are you quite sure?
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 11:34 PM
Feb 2024

The likeliest thing you're thinking of with Swedish composting toilets is the Clivus Multrum, which has neither drum nor requirement of a daily spin.

There are some backyard composting units (for food scraps, weeds. and such) that involve a drum that wants to be turned from time to time.

It occurs to me, respectfully, that you may be conflating a couple of different composting issues you were looking into 30 years ago.

Talitha

(8,105 posts)
19. Yeah, it was a long time ago and all we saw was a brochure.
Fri Feb 23, 2024, 12:02 PM
Feb 2024

The concept was quite interesting, though.

BannonsLiver

(20,756 posts)
21. That's all very lovely
Fri Feb 23, 2024, 12:47 PM
Feb 2024

But I’m sure you used a flushing toilet today, like everyone else.

Ace Rothstein

(3,373 posts)
11. Demolition Man
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 11:37 PM
Feb 2024

Talitha, you are fined 1 credit for a violation of the verbal morality statute.

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