'Oh my God': Morning Joe panel stunned by Tommy Tuberville's latest display of ignorance

[LetMyPeopleVote]

Tuberville is an idiot

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MSNBC's Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski were stunned by Sen. Tommy Tuberville's (R-AL) utter ignorance about an Alabama Supreme Court decision that could end IVF services......

"In his state, by the way, it's not like [NBC reporter] Dasha [Burns], who did a great job, it wasn't like Dasha was asking him about what happened in the Idaho legislature or in the Nevada legislature or the Oregon Supreme Court," Scarborough said.

"The Supreme Court," Brzezinski added. "He clearly doesn't know what IVF is."

"You know, he had no idea," Scarborough said. "You know, it'd be like Forrest Gump if he got the ball and just ran in circles. He was just running in circles, he was getting dizzy. He was for it, he was for IVF, he was for it, but he needed to read the bill. It's not a bill, it's your state Supreme Court – your state Supreme Court, not a bill."

"This is just another great example, the Republicans' message, think about it," Scarborough added. "Donald Trump [on Thursday] bragged about terminating abortion, he bragged about terminating the right, a 50-year right, in front of a Christian group. At the same time, he is leaking to the New York Times – 'Oh, I'm for a 16-week ban.' At the same time! Then you have poor Tommy Tuberville, poor, poor Tommy running around in circles, going, 'I'm for the ruling that bans IVF, I'm for that ruling, yes, it's good. It's unfortunate, it's unfortunate that women and families can't use IVF, it is fortunate. I'm for it, I'm against it, I need to read the bill – oh, it's a court case? Nobody is talking about it.' It just happened. This is such a nightmare for Republicans politically, they know it."

[spooky3]

1. How the HELL was he ever a winning football coach? Nt

[marble falls]

3. He was a mediocre coach. Except at Auburn. Everywhere else he had trouble winning half his game ...

... he resigned from Auburn after a 5-7 season.

"After resigning from Auburn in December 2008, Tuberville formed a 50-50 partnership with former Lehman Brothers broker John David Stroud, creating TS Capital Management and TS Capital Partners,[46] where he had an office and helped find investors.[47] In February 2012, seven investors sued Tuberville and Stroud, saying they were defrauded of more than $1.7 million[48] that they invested from 2008 to 2011.[49] Tuberville's attorneys denied the allegations.[50]

In May 2012, Stroud was indicted for fraudulent use of $5.2 million from various Auburn investment companies, including his partnerships with Tuberville;[51] Tuberville was not charged.[52] Tuberville said in court filings that he was also a victim, and had lost $450,000; he settled the investor lawsuit in October 2013 on undisclosed terms.[53][54] In November 2013, Stroud pleaded guilty and received a 10-year sentence.[51]


Tommy Tuberville Foundation

In 2014, Tuberville founded the Tommy Tuberville Foundation. Its website said its purpose was "to recognize and support organizations and causes that connect with the beliefs and values of the Tuberville family: assisting our military and veterans; awareness, education and prevention of health issues, particularly among women and children; and, education and community initiatives."[55]

Through its first five years, the foundation raised $289,599 but spent just $51,658 on charitable causes, tax records showed.[56] This rate of 18% is less than the 65% that the Better Business Bureau says ethical charities should spend on their causes.[57] In 2020, the Associated Press called the Tuberville Foundation "a questionable charity that raises money but gives very little away".[58] Foundation officials said the tax filings did not reflect volunteer labor and donated materials used to refurbish veterans' homes.[59]

In 2020, The New York Times reported that Tuberville campaign and foundation officials "produced internal records for 2018 that showed nearly $20,000 was raised for a temporary project to provide a retreat for veterans. But the records raised bookkeeping questions, since they showed more than $61,000 of 2018 revenue, roughly twice what the charity reported to the I.R.S. that year".[60]

In 2021, the Washington Post reported, the foundation "reported it had $74,101 in revenue and spent just 12 percent of that, or $9,000, while $32,000 went to administrative costs (including nearly $12,400 to pay off a truck the charity purchased in 2018 for $27,369)".[61] By the end of 2021, the foundation's website had gone defunct.[62]

In July 2023, a spokesperson for Tuberville said that the foundation had been under audit and had paused its activities, but that Tuberville was reforming it.[61]
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Tuberville

He was even a mediocre fraudster.

[Pinback]

15. Tuberville's Auburn football teams beat Alabama 7 times out of 10,

including one stretch of six in a row (helped significantly by a run of mediocre Alabama head coaches during that stretch, before the Nick Saban era). Those who follow that rivalry know how dominant Alabama has been for the last 60+ years, so that statistic makes Tuberville a minor deity in the state of Alabama — among Auburn fans, at least.

His overall coaching record was certainly uneven, and at times atrocious. Few would place him in the top tier of that field.

Tuberville’s election to the U.S. Senate is a disgrace, of course. Whatever intelligence the guy has is clearly limited to sports.

[marble falls]

2. In a different time, he'd have been some villiage's idiot. How does a losing football coach of limited depth ...

... get to be Senator? Then again, how did TFG get to be President.

I remember when Nixon was trying to get Carlswell to the Supreme Court. It was pointed out in confirmation hearing that Carswell was "mediocre", one of his supporters, Sen Roman Hruska said: "Even if he were mediocre, there are a lot of mediocre judges and people and lawyers. They are entitled to a little representation, aren't they, and a little chance? We can't have all Brandeises, Frankfurters and Cardozos.[11]" William H. Hohan (April 27, 1999). "Roman L. Hruska Dies at 94; Leading Senate Conservative". The New York Times. p. B8. Retrieved April 22, 2018.

Tuberville is representing the mediocre constituency in Alabama.

[EYESORE 9001]

9. Celebrity? Name recognition?

Probably the biggest factor is saying shit that the MAGAt yup-yups want to hear.

[marble falls]

30. Being the stalking dog for fraudsters? After Auburn, he became a 50/50 partner with an ex-Lehman ...

... broker in a new company. The partner ended up with a 10 year federal sentence and Tommy scooted of free.

[sop]

24. In Alabama college football is more important than religion or politics.

[whopis01]

26. Many treat politics like a team sport.

You root for your guys. You boo the other guys. Winning is all that matters. The issues/consequences/long term impact of the votes don't really matter as long as your guys score another victory on whatever the vote is for.

I fully believe that is the mentality that many people (voters) have. With that in mind, it isn't so surprising that the coach won.

[underpants]

4. She never let him off the hook by explaining what IVF is

But then it is his state (sort of) and he is a blithering idiot

[ShazzieB]

16. I thought she did a good job.

She questioned him in such a way that his ignorance was on full display for all to see, and it was glorious!

[hlthe2b]

5. 'Wondering if that handful of DU Auburn fans will tell me again how intelligent Tuberville is...

(or at least WAS as a coach). I argue strenuously that his moronic "intellect" is not likely new and that Auburn was fortunate to have good assistant coaches/coordinators as well as good players then--bringing them that successful period. No attack intended on Auburn football, but it is to their forever shame that Tuberville is out there now showing his ignorance--just as it would have been for UGA if star RB Herschel Walker had won that Senate race.

[czarjak]

6. Texas Tech thought he was a good-hire, once.

Tommy Treason is a hatefully stupid POS that just wants to say the quiet part out loud. Period. Not an alternative fact either. Republicans like Jodey Arrington are more than happy to be in lockstep with him2.

[sheshe2]

7. He is a perfect example...

of why men should stay the F*** out of a woman's choice over her own body and health care decisions.

[Paladin]

8. "Stunned"? Why expect anything better from the "coach"? (nt)

[ECL213]

10. I don't understand...

If life begins at conception, and these frozen cells are alive, then how can they live through being frozen? Are their precious, miraculous little souls frozen? How can we as a Christian Nation allow that to happen? I am calling for the prohibition of all forms of refrigeration nationwide!

[The Wielding Truth]

13. Well I have a problem with Christians who haven't read the bible. Life begins at first breath. Only mentioned

once. Genesis.

[jaxexpat]

14. Excellent point, we should explore it scientifically at our next sance.

I respect .

[CCExile]

17. No! Freeze conservatives

until we need them (it might be a long wait).

[hatrack]

29. No heartbeat, no brain activity, no respiration (for that matter, no heart, no brain, no lungs) . . . .

Oh, but they're "alive"!

They're "persons", 'cuz the Angry Sky Wizard book from 4,000 years ago says so in muh brain hurr durr hurr durr hurr durr . . . .

[The Wielding Truth]

11. Every interviewer should remind these lamebrains to stick to reality and not ramble nonsense.

Good job.

[jaxexpat]

12. Couple of things:

1. Joe Biden is perfectly fit to be president through 2028.
2. Tommy Tuberville is too stupid to be a US senator from any state for any length of time, even by the low standards of Alabama.

[SouthernDem4ever]

18. I am not shocked or stunned. He's long since proven his intelligence level.

IQ in the single digits. Greed level is off the charts.

[SpankMe]

19. Did a Google search just now

It's not clear where Tuberville lives. There are stories as late as August, '23 that say he no longer even owns property in AL (but that he might have a rented living space there) and that he owns a home and spends most of his non-Washington time in FL.

If he is, in fact, an absentee from the state he represents in the Senate, then it's no wonder he has no idea what's going on in AL.

This situation is strange and needs clarification.

[Initech]

20. Tuberville is a fucking idiot who has no business being in the Senate.

He was installed by Fox News to wreak as much havoc as possible.

[barbtries]

21. he's really stupid.

not even bright enough to remember his talking points. hasn't read the bill? it wasn't a fucking bill. "I know that." clearly he didn't. how does somebody this stupid get elected. hate to say i think i know the answer.

[StarryNite]

22. "young people are our number one commodity"

Whoa, that says a lot about how he really feels about kids.


A commodity is any useful or valuable thing, especially something that is bought and sold. Grain, coffee, and precious metals are all commodities.

https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/commodity

[limbicnuminousity]

23. Bingo.

The word choice isn't accidental. Kids, as they would have it, are future workers, consumers, or soldiers. No wonder their kids are decapitating them.

[druidity33]

32. Utah Phillips has a bit...

where he's talking to an auditorium full of Seniors graduating:

You are about to be told one more time that you are America's most valuable natural resource. Have you seen what they do to valuable natural resources?! Have you seen a strip mine? Have you seen a clear cut in the forest? Have you seen a polluted river? Don't ever let them call you a valuable natural resource! They're going to strip mine your soul. They're going to clear cut your best thoughts for the sake of profit unless you learn to resist, because the profit system follows the path of least resistance and following the path of least resistance is what makes the river crooked!

Ani DiFranco set a bunch of his work to song on an album called "The Past DIdn't Go Anywhere". This quote is from the song "Natural Resources"... it's worth a listen.

[Sneederbunk]

25. The MSM gives him all the publicity he wants.

[Traildogbob]

27. Tubberville

Ranting about we need more children……….for what, targets at school shootings, vectors to spread measles, and other diseases, Meat packing employees. The white Christian’s nationalist sure as hell do not want children of dark skin being bred.
Carrying Capacity has a deadly limit. But that’s science. And there is no money under a current GQP wet dream control to feed cloth or educate a single one of all those Children we so badly need.

[republianmushroom]

28. Yup, ignorance, but they want total control.

[slightlv]

31. Im glad that womens health

has become more than just abortion, but im going bonkers because everyone is avoiding the elephant in the room... all the religious talk and theory supporting this... and anti abortion laws. This same judge has just come out saying ALL our laws should be based on the Bible. And no one is talking about this? What the hell!

[moondust]

33. Tubby: "We need more kids."

Old Cynic wonders if that is what all this anti-abortion, anti-birth control, IVF stuff is really about. Is Tubby just ignorantly saying the quiet part out loud? Are their big donor bosses worried about future labor shortages that will drive up wages and thus make predation harder? Maybe they see "more kids" as a bigger head count meaning more political power, especially if they can be brainwashed from birth into the cult--similar to Russians?