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Walleye

(31,505 posts)
1. They might as well have said the cruelty is because of the wrath of a holy God
Sat Feb 24, 2024, 11:01 AM
Feb 2024

What is going on down in the south to make everybody so fucking crazy?

TwilightZone

(25,687 posts)
3. It's not just the south.
Sat Feb 24, 2024, 11:04 AM
Feb 2024

This kind of stuff is everywhere where conservatives gather en masse. The Upper Midwest can be just as conservative and just as nutty.

Growing up in South Dakota, we used to joke that it's just Alabama North - and Bible Belt North, and it's only gotten worse.

jaxexpat

(7,059 posts)
14. The south had 246 years to enjoy the profits of owning slaves for the shitty jobs but.........
Sat Feb 24, 2024, 12:45 PM
Feb 2024

only 159 years do get over losing them. These adjustments take time. Give them another 87 or so years and they might get better.

The "big picture/deep dig" south is of a culture reliant on the concept that they've been unjustly removed from their rightful place in heaven by evil forces like those cited in the bible. Except they're too weak to take their heaven back, probably because so many of them are sinners. Frankly, it has driven them insane.

Walleye

(31,505 posts)
4. So if somebody punches my tooth out in a fight, I get to remove one of their teeth?
Sat Feb 24, 2024, 11:27 AM
Feb 2024

That whole eye for an eye thing is such bullshit. I actually interviewed a guy one time who had lost an eye because a cop hit him with his handcuffs. He did not get to remove the cops eye My mom used to say “they make me tired”

TwilightZone

(25,687 posts)
5. Of course it's bullshit.
Sat Feb 24, 2024, 11:37 AM
Feb 2024

Just because it's bullshit doesn't mean they're not going to use it. It's a very frequently-asserted justification for capital punishment.

keithbvadu2

(37,590 posts)
6. Eye for an eye was actually a limiting factor
Sat Feb 24, 2024, 11:40 AM
Feb 2024

Eye for an eye was meant to be fair justice but not excessive

http://www.adventistbiblicalresearch.org/Biblequestions/eyeforeye.htm

1. History of the legislation. The lex talionis is found in three passages in the
Old Testament (Ex. 21:23, 24; Lev. 24:19, 20; and Deut. 19:21). A similar law is found in
the ancient Mesopotamian code of Hammurabi. Earlier codes legislated financial
compensation for bodily injuries, but Hammurabi seems to have been the first to require
physical injury for physical injury. This has led some historians to conclude that there
was a time when monetary compensation redressed personal injuries because the state did
not consider them to be crimes against society.
The law of equivalency was a significant development in the history of
jurisprudence in the sense that what used to be a private matter between two families was
now taken over by the state and considered to be criminal behavior. This fits very well
with the Old Testament understanding of offenses against others as offenses against the
covenant community and against the God of the covenant.
2. The principle involved. The law of equivalency was an attempt to limit the
extent of a punishment and to discourage cruelty. The principle of this legislation is
one of equivalency; that is to say, the punishment should correspond to the crime and
should be limited to the one involved in the injury (Deut. 19:18-21).
This law was a rejection of family feuds and the spirit of revenge that led the
injured party to uncontrolled attacks against the culprit and the members of his or her
family (cf. Gen. 4:23). The punishment was required to fit the crime, a principle still
used in modern jurisprudence. I must add that in the Bible this law was applied equally
to all members of society (Lev. 24:22), while in Mesopotamia it was limited to crimes
against society's "important" people.

TwilightZone

(25,687 posts)
7. You think they care about interpretation?
Sat Feb 24, 2024, 11:45 AM
Feb 2024

it says whatever they want it to say to justify their beliefs, words, and actions.

Hermit-The-Prog

(34,182 posts)
11. No theocrat should be in a position of trust or power in our government.
Sat Feb 24, 2024, 12:05 PM
Feb 2024

We are supposed to be a nation of laws, not religious dogma.

TheKentuckian

(25,147 posts)
13. We may have to make a tough choice.
Sat Feb 24, 2024, 12:34 PM
Feb 2024

Swallowing an ounce of hypocrisy or allowing society to collapse or be perverted into tyranny.

Tolerating the intolerant is a snipe hunt.

ancianita

(36,532 posts)
16. Absolutely.
Sat Feb 24, 2024, 01:18 PM
Feb 2024

Our past Christian president, Obama, knows that and so does the current Christian president.

ancianita

(36,532 posts)
19. Absolutely true.
Sat Feb 24, 2024, 01:27 PM
Feb 2024

And a stupid promoter of OT law that later evolved in the NT from Jesus. The man is like all theocrats in not knowing his own sacred texts. All authoritarians and dictators do the exact same thing.

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