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gab13by13

(21,654 posts)
Sun Feb 25, 2024, 08:44 AM Feb 2024

Trump May Be In Early Stages Of Alzheimers

According to psychologist Dr. John Gartner, formerly of Johns Hopkins University Medical School, Donald Trump's slurring and inability to sometimes formulate complete sentences appears to be a sign of growing dementia and possibly early stages of Alzheimer’s.

In an interview with Salon's Chauncey DeVega, Gartner bluntly stated the former president is "showing gross signs of dementia" and fellow experts are not pointing out the warning signs nearly enough.
According to Gartner, "Some examples of Trump’s non-words: Beneficiaries becomes 'benefishes.' Renovations become 'renoversh.' Pivotal became 'pivobal.' Obama became 'obamna.' Missiles became 'mishiz.' Christmas became 'Crissus.' Bipartisan became 'bipars.' This is a fundamental breakdown in the ability to use language. If you were talking to your father on the phone and he did this you would think he is having a stroke. There is no healthy older person who speaks that way."


https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/trump-appears-to-be-showing-gross-signs-of-dementia-expert-points-to-new-evidence/ar-BB1iOWQW

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Trump May Be In Early Stages Of Alzheimers (Original Post) gab13by13 Feb 2024 OP
The repubs will just "Weekend At Bernie's" him...a propped up babbling tool. MiHale Feb 2024 #1
I'm convinced that the... Hugin Feb 2024 #2
The Ancient King of Babble-On....... lastlib Feb 2024 #40
Love it malaise Feb 2024 #48
Dementia is too good for him. Shipwack Feb 2024 #98
...nah.. thomski64 Feb 2024 #110
Like El Cid central scrutinizer Feb 2024 #62
Of course, the difference being... Hugin Feb 2024 #65
Kind of what they're doing now. paleotn Feb 2024 #8
It would seem so PatSeg Feb 2024 #18
He's a means to an end for people who think the ends justify any means. paleotn Feb 2024 #23
It almost makes me believe all that anti-Christ crap. CrispyQ Feb 2024 #35
Ha, ha! PatSeg Feb 2024 #55
Word. Spending eternity with these sanctimonious jerkholes is not the selling point they think it is. OMGWTF Feb 2024 #60
If i did believe in a literal antichrist, I'd definitely think TSF was the fulfillment of that prophecy. ShazzieB Feb 2024 #105
Also the end-timers PatSeg Feb 2024 #54
THIS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DENVERPOPS Feb 2024 #70
And the rest of us PatSeg Feb 2024 #78
George Carlin said it best: DENVERPOPS Feb 2024 #83
And a way to control the masses PatSeg Feb 2024 #95
Some one once said: DENVERPOPS Feb 27 #117
Rethugs DGAF. And the dude is essentially a propped up babbling tool now. LymphocyteLover Feb 2024 #21
LOVED that BlueMTexpat Feb 2024 #30
And the MAGAts would still vote for him Chili Pepper Feb 2024 #33
Why not? They did that with Reagan DBoon Feb 2024 #106
Ghosts of Ronald Reagan n/t pazzyanne Feb 2024 #112
Maybe?............................... Lovie777 Feb 2024 #3
I had liver failure in the pool. I'm still hoping but it may be Alzheimer's. Look at interviews from before brewens Feb 2024 #4
I recall during McChimp's terms in office --- D.U., every few weeks, a post about him going off his rocker. 3Hotdogs Feb 2024 #5
The thing about the boy who cried wolf. Sometimes he's right. paleotn Feb 2024 #9
Still waiting for Fitzmas....... Hope22 Feb 2024 #32
and an un-redacted Mueller report... Evolve Dammit Feb 2024 #82
However, the difference in age is more than 15 years. Wednesdays Feb 2024 #67
Trump sounds just as unhinged and confused as he did in 2016. All Mixed Up Feb 2024 #93
I didn't say Trump had dementia or alzheimers gab13by13 Feb 2024 #104
An expert who has not properly evaluated Trump personally. All Mixed Up Feb 2024 #109
No doubt Trump's brain is as fit as it ever was. Torchlight Feb 2024 #116
Damn you, would you just stroke out!!! paleotn Feb 2024 #6
MAY IT BE SO!!! niyad Feb 2024 #10
I wake up and look at the news every morning hoping I'll see that headline.... Diamond_Dog Feb 2024 #13
Same here! niyad Feb 2024 #15
I believe that he has VGNonly Feb 2024 #66
There was that mysterious trip to the hospital late in his term. yardwork Feb 2024 #96
My favorite fantasy demise for the orange menace is a fatal lightning strike on the golf course. Dark n Stormy Knight Feb 2024 #87
Early stages? More like full blown dementia. Joinfortmill Feb 2024 #7
yes, at least mid -level bucolic_frolic Feb 2024 #22
Well, they tolerated Reagan.... TNNurse Feb 2024 #11
The christofascists just need to get him across the finish line to take over. jmbar2 Feb 2024 #12
Let it be, Lord. And make it fast. (nt) Paladin Feb 2024 #14
And why isn't MSM showing him slurring his words more often? KS Toronado Feb 2024 #16
David Packman shows a fair amount ... LenaBaby61 Feb 2024 #59
Don't want Trump to lose his marbles too soon aeromanKC Feb 2024 #17
Me, too! Besides dmr Feb 2024 #27
Yes. rubbersole Feb 2024 #52
↑↑↑ This. ↑↑↑ nt. Wednesdays Feb 2024 #68
His MAGA loons are as bad as he is, maybe worse. sop Feb 2024 #19
Not to mention calling your wife Mercedes.... Liberal In Texas Feb 2024 #20
Yeah, Reagan didn't finish us off. Pinback Feb 2024 #58
The most complete analysis of the Previous Guy is Bandy X. Lee's The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump ificandream Feb 2024 #24
Remember this? CrispyQ Feb 2024 #38
I remember that one! wolfie001 Feb 2024 #47
The thing with the filthy-rich Farmer-Rick Feb 2024 #25
The audacity of him to tell his cult that if he beat Covid they could too. CrispyQ Feb 2024 #41
You really think he'll live to be 97? Wednesdays Feb 2024 #69
I smell another legal defense. Kid Berwyn Feb 2024 #26
Then he gets locked up in an asylum. sheshe2 Feb 2024 #73
Press for debates -- SEVERAL DEBATES! Auggie Feb 2024 #28
I'd prefer to hear he's . . . RobertDevereaux Feb 2024 #29
Timing is everything Desert Dog Feb 2024 #31
Ectopic pregnancy should be part of the Tree Lady Feb 2024 #39
Timing is everything .. EmmaLee E Feb 2024 #71
Doesn't matter Diraven Feb 2024 #34
BS. Rethug talking point. cayugafalls Feb 2024 #45
Per Mary Trump, TSF mocked his father as he started succumbing to Alzheimer's disease in last 6 years of life iluvtennis Feb 2024 #36
Or if the whole world mocked him. NH Ethylene Feb 2024 #42
Twitter link to spread for maximum coverage: Native Feb 2024 #37
For the Twitterless ... FakeNoose Feb 2024 #46
Early? n/t wryter2000 Feb 2024 #43
Or as turdump would say, "Alzahimmerss" cayugafalls Feb 2024 #44
Dementia Don LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2024 #49
And God bless the United Stesh. Qutzupalotl Feb 2024 #50
This question nees to be asked a million times, and then a million more. Create a drumbeat. c-rational Feb 2024 #51
I hesitated to post this because I believe in karma, gab13by13 Feb 2024 #53
Would it be wrong to make a montage ad of him slurring words? Bayard Feb 2024 #56
Meidas Touch has a collection of clips here... Wednesdays Feb 2024 #72
This is probably why Nikki Haley keeps hanging on... (nt) Pluvious Feb 2024 #57
Maybe not so early. elleng Feb 2024 #61
Very Stable Genius JoseBalow Feb 2024 #63
He needs to go to assistive living/memory care LeftInTX Feb 2024 #64
Kind of "fortunate" that it coincides with 91 indictments. live love laugh Feb 2024 #74
"I have the best Alzheimer's anyone has ever had. My doctor told me Wonder Why Feb 2024 #75
He's been there for awhile Jilly_in_VA Feb 2024 #76
Maybe bdamomma Feb 2024 #77
Someone (like Dr. Ronny Feelgood?) should pass it on to TSF that Buns_of_Fire Feb 2024 #79
I want this on a bumper sticker: ShazzieB Feb 2024 #80
There are online sites that produce bumper stckers Funtatlaguy Feb 2024 #108
Please stop it Nasruddin Feb 2024 #81
Have a link to back that up? gab13by13 Feb 2024 #107
Tell us something we don't know. sakabatou Feb 2024 #84
Didn't Fred have dementia? Evolve Dammit Feb 2024 #85
Yes. He was diagnosed at the age of 86. All Mixed Up Feb 2024 #94
Thanks! Evolve Dammit Feb 2024 #115
Early stages?? samplegirl Feb 2024 #86
Early stage Alzheimer . . . Aussie105 Feb 2024 #88
All the stress must be speeding it up too. Hopefully his brain just becomes overloaded and breaks down. nt Quixote1818 Feb 2024 #89
The brain overload and breakdown happened a while back. Aussie105 Feb 2024 #90
I really do hate saying this but if true I hope it moves quickly oldsoftie Feb 2024 #91
I hope this too BlueKota Feb 2024 #97
If you've dealt with someone who suffers from Alzheimer's misanthrope Feb 2024 #101
My mom was "getting there"; but was still able to live alone almost till the end oldsoftie Feb 2024 #113
Trump has earned no sympathy from me. lpbk2713 Feb 2024 #92
Early?!?! evolves Feb 2024 #99
They propped up Strom Thurmond... raising2moredems Feb 2024 #100
I can't wait until God hits paydirt and we get the final stage. SoFlaBro Feb 2024 #102
I don't know anything about dementia, but I was thinking that maybe he's on some heavy anti-anxiety meds. C Moon Feb 2024 #103
"Early" stages? I disagree he in advanced stages. W T F Feb 2024 #111
Alzheimer disease runs in the Trump family genes. Emile Feb 2024 #114

Hugin

(33,286 posts)
2. I'm convinced that the...
Sun Feb 25, 2024, 09:09 AM
Feb 2024

Weekend at Bernie’s option is the current favorite among the GrOPper elites.

lastlib

(23,481 posts)
40. The Ancient King of Babble-On.......
Sun Feb 25, 2024, 12:11 PM
Feb 2024

Please, Dog, if he's not going to go to prison, let dementia take him soon!

Shipwack

(2,198 posts)
98. Dementia is too good for him.
Sun Feb 25, 2024, 10:18 PM
Feb 2024

Dementia doesn't bother the person who has it; they think they are doing fine.

It's those around the victim that suffer.

central scrutinizer

(11,693 posts)
62. Like El Cid
Sun Feb 25, 2024, 02:47 PM
Feb 2024

Prop up the dead hero with a wooden frame, tie him on his horse and send him out to lead the troops into battle

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Hugin

(33,286 posts)
65. Of course, the difference being...
Sun Feb 25, 2024, 03:37 PM
Feb 2024

El Cid was backed by many courageous fighters and those who would prop up Trump as king are barricaded behind hubristic rhetoric and the 101st Chairborne.

PatSeg

(47,926 posts)
18. It would seem so
Sun Feb 25, 2024, 10:21 AM
Feb 2024

Because they really don't care. They want him on the throne regardless of his physical and mental condition. He has become a symbol to them.

paleotn

(18,060 posts)
23. He's a means to an end for people who think the ends justify any means.
Sun Feb 25, 2024, 10:41 AM
Feb 2024

That's why Trump's most unchristian life, before and now, is irrelevant. They couldn't care less what he does as long as they come out on top in the end. In short, he's a vehicle. Nothing more.

CrispyQ

(36,661 posts)
35. It almost makes me believe all that anti-Christ crap.
Sun Feb 25, 2024, 11:51 AM
Feb 2024

It would be a nice twist if their stupid rapture would happen & suck them all off planet Earth, & their stinky, orange god, too.

PatSeg

(47,926 posts)
55. Ha, ha!
Sun Feb 25, 2024, 01:21 PM
Feb 2024

I just commented something to that effect. Yeah, little do they know that many non-believers want them sucked off the planet as well. We'll help them pack!

OMGWTF

(4,021 posts)
60. Word. Spending eternity with these sanctimonious jerkholes is not the selling point they think it is.
Sun Feb 25, 2024, 02:12 PM
Feb 2024

ShazzieB

(16,774 posts)
105. If i did believe in a literal antichrist, I'd definitely think TSF was the fulfillment of that prophecy.
Sun Feb 25, 2024, 11:53 PM
Feb 2024

As it happens, I do not believe in literal interpretations of biblical prophecy, including that one. But TSF sure would fill the bill.

PatSeg

(47,926 posts)
54. Also the end-timers
Sun Feb 25, 2024, 01:18 PM
Feb 2024

could look at him as the Anti-Christ. They REALLY want the Rapture to come and aren't patient enough to let it unfold according to their god's will.

DENVERPOPS

(9,022 posts)
70. THIS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sun Feb 25, 2024, 04:37 PM
Feb 2024

Segments of the Religious Right are just waiting to be swept up to Heaven, with the rest left to hell on earth and being burnt as heathens

DENVERPOPS

(9,022 posts)
83. George Carlin said it best:
Sun Feb 25, 2024, 07:32 PM
Feb 2024

"I look at most organized religions as mental disease"

May he RIP......along with Molly Ivins.....

Lovie777

(12,507 posts)
3. Maybe?...............................
Sun Feb 25, 2024, 09:10 AM
Feb 2024

he is and it's getting worse. Ya think the GQP would care about his health and well being, but noes, all they care about is winning and obtaining complete power along with all the money.

brewens

(13,744 posts)
4. I had liver failure in the pool. I'm still hoping but it may be Alzheimer's. Look at interviews from before
Sun Feb 25, 2024, 09:22 AM
Feb 2024

he ran for president. He was always full of shit but sharper for him. No comparison.

He's high risk for liver failure with that diet.

3Hotdogs

(12,532 posts)
5. I recall during McChimp's terms in office --- D.U., every few weeks, a post about him going off his rocker.
Sun Feb 25, 2024, 09:29 AM
Feb 2024

And, in a couple'a months, nobody will be able to ignore it. ----- still waiting.


And on the Republican side, Joe will soon need a nursemaid on the campaign trail to spoon-feed him his cream of wheat so's he doesn't collapse on the campaign stage from hunger.

paleotn

(18,060 posts)
9. The thing about the boy who cried wolf. Sometimes he's right.
Sun Feb 25, 2024, 09:34 AM
Feb 2024

In this case, I think he is. This is not contrived. Just listen to the orange moron. He's a babbling mess and getting worse.

Wednesdays

(17,572 posts)
67. However, the difference in age is more than 15 years.
Sun Feb 25, 2024, 04:24 PM
Feb 2024

Dubya was born July 6, 1946, so he was 62 when he left office. Smellvis is now 77 years old and counting. Much higher risk of dementia.

 

All Mixed Up

(597 posts)
93. Trump sounds just as unhinged and confused as he did in 2016.
Sun Feb 25, 2024, 09:46 PM
Feb 2024

Alzheimer's can progress slowly but Trump has been in the presidential spotlight now for eight years and he looks just as deranged and confused as he did in 2016.

Just last week someone was posting a video of Trump confusing 9/11 with 7-Eleven. It was hilarious and total proof he's lost his shit.

Except the video was from 2016.

Even in the days of his presidency, he was confused. Like when he referred to Tim Cook as Tim Apple.

Or when, in 2017, he gave a speech and started walking out of the room when he was told he needed to sign some legislation - the whole point of being there.

Then there was his claiming in 2017 that Andrew Jackson was really angery about the Civil War - except the Civil War didn't start until years after Jackson's death.

Trump has always been a moron. I don't think he suffers from dementia. He just suffers from being an idiot.

Much like Bush.

I actually don't think it's productive to get into a dementia-off. I don't believe that helps win voters over and it just keeps the claims about Biden's mental acuity in the limelight.

Call Trump dumb. Attack how ill-equipped mentally he is to handle the presidency. But I see no reason to tie it to dementia or his age because, again, that just raises the issue with Biden too.

gab13by13

(21,654 posts)
104. I didn't say Trump had dementia or alzheimers
Sun Feb 25, 2024, 11:48 PM
Feb 2024

I cited an expert's opinion. Read the link, the expert states that Biden has normal issues from growing old, Trump's symptoms are different.

 

All Mixed Up

(597 posts)
109. An expert who has not properly evaluated Trump personally.
Mon Feb 26, 2024, 12:10 AM
Feb 2024

Especially one who is biased against Trump.

Dr. Gartner also petitioned Schumer back in 2017 to remove Trump from office because he was mentally unfit.

In 2018, he wrote a letter to Trump's doctor, Ronny Jackson, asking him to perform a cognitive exam because there were signs he might be suffering from dementia.

Then in 2019, he wrote an article for USA Today claiming Trump might suffer from dementia.

My point? He's been at this for nearly eight years now.

As awful as Trump is - and he is - if he had dementia all the way back in 2017, the signs likely would be very apparent in 2024. The average lifespan of someone with dementia is eight-to-ten years. Trump is right at that supposed eight-year mark according to this same doctor. He would theoretically be entering the severe stage of the disease and as unhinged as Trump is, he's nowhere near the end-stage of dementia.

So, either Trump is one of the lucky ones and has a really slow-forming version of dementia (which is pretty rare) or he's just crazy and has been crazy since 2016.

But I don't think it's appropriate for any doctor to be making that diagnosis off speeches and what they see on TV.

How can I accept it when Ronny Jackson, also a doctor (literally Obama's White House doctor) is out there doing the exact same thing with Biden? Should we trust him because he's a doctor too? No.

Trump is dumb. He's always been dumb. He's also dangerous. But not because he's suffering from dementia.

Focusing on dementia, whether it's posting an article or outright making the claim yourself, isn't a winning argument because it just brings Biden's age into it.

We need to focus on how crazy Trump is and what he plans on doing if elected again - not that he flubs a line or slurs his words due to his fake teeth or whatever.

VGNonly

(7,541 posts)
66. I believe that he has
Sun Feb 25, 2024, 03:41 PM
Feb 2024

had a stroke, or a series of TIAs. I remember his difficulty holding a glass with his right hand. If someone has had a stroke, the right hand is weak. Strokes emanate from the left lobe. He had to use both hands to take a sip of water.

yardwork

(61,884 posts)
96. There was that mysterious trip to the hospital late in his term.
Sun Feb 25, 2024, 10:14 PM
Feb 2024

I always wondered if that was a stroke.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,789 posts)
87. My favorite fantasy demise for the orange menace is a fatal lightning strike on the golf course.
Sun Feb 25, 2024, 07:54 PM
Feb 2024

I like this for many reasons, not least that there's no one to blame except "the almighty." But anything that removes his evil presence from this world will be fine with me.

jmbar2

(4,953 posts)
12. The christofascists just need to get him across the finish line to take over.
Sun Feb 25, 2024, 09:42 AM
Feb 2024

I am terrified of them and the Project 2025.

LenaBaby61

(6,982 posts)
59. David Packman shows a fair amount ...
Sun Feb 25, 2024, 02:07 PM
Feb 2024

Of videos showing the RAPIST thug slurring, confusing people's names, joking about how he's slurring, sweating profusely, confusing people's names and forgetting things on purpose, because trigger the fascist, radical, left-winged, communist libs Then the RAPIST goes on to mumble, slur, forget what he said 5 minutes earlier about how he hated flies, and his mentally deranged fans applaud him hating flies 👀

It's indescribable, but maybe not, how complicit this so-called liberal--but is mostly corporate and greedy for ad dollars & seeing the train-wreck RAPIST descend into madness but brings them clicks, views--media's hiding how the RAPIST is visibly DECLINING right before our eyes real time

aeromanKC

(3,338 posts)
17. Don't want Trump to lose his marbles too soon
Sun Feb 25, 2024, 10:09 AM
Feb 2024

I want him to be fully cognizant when both RICO hits and the prison doors clang shut behind his smelly fat ass.

dmr

(28,392 posts)
27. Me, too! Besides
Sun Feb 25, 2024, 10:56 AM
Feb 2024

I'd rather suffer (albeit, painfully) through TFG's campaign so President Biden can win his second term. And he will!

rubbersole

(6,811 posts)
52. Yes.
Sun Feb 25, 2024, 01:15 PM
Feb 2024

Please, please, please let him babble and hold incoherent rallies until November. The rw will need Noah's ark to survive the blue tsunami.

sop

(10,410 posts)
19. His MAGA loons are as bad as he is, maybe worse.
Sun Feb 25, 2024, 10:26 AM
Feb 2024

If you (have the stomach to) watch youtube interviews of the racist mouthbreathers who show up at his rallies, or those "talking to the average red state voter at the Main Street diner" reports the media does every four years, it becomes apparent Trump voters are pretty low-functioning themselves.

Liberal In Texas

(13,660 posts)
20. Not to mention calling your wife Mercedes....
Sun Feb 25, 2024, 10:26 AM
Feb 2024

Just what we need in the WH, another repub with dementia. Who would run the country this time? Steven Miller? Frightening thoughts.

Pinback

(12,187 posts)
58. Yeah, Reagan didn't finish us off.
Sun Feb 25, 2024, 02:00 PM
Feb 2024

This shambling pestilence and his henchpersons would gladly burn the country to the ground if they could profit personally from it.

Yet another “most important election of our lifetime” and “democracy is on the line,” both of which are glaringly true. I hope to live long enough to see elections where the biggest drama is how much better things could get with the next administration.

ificandream

(9,477 posts)
24. The most complete analysis of the Previous Guy is Bandy X. Lee's The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump
Sun Feb 25, 2024, 10:47 AM
Feb 2024
The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump is a collection of analyses by a group of 37 psychiatrists and mental health professionals. There are so many things wrong with him it's absurd that anyone supports him. But it's the cult thing. But I have both the Kindle and audio versions and it really is the best thing out there that tells what he's all about.

CrispyQ

(36,661 posts)
38. Remember this?
Sun Feb 25, 2024, 12:00 PM
Feb 2024


It was published early in his term. I thought it was the most prescient cartoon of all.

Farmer-Rick

(10,290 posts)
25. The thing with the filthy-rich
Sun Feb 25, 2024, 10:48 AM
Feb 2024

Is that they usually have really good medical care and can survive and hide mental issues better and longer than an average person.

If Cheney had been poor he would have died of heart failure long ago.

If Reagan had been anyone else, he would have been put in a home or wandered off to starve.

If W had average wealth, his liver would have given out 25 years ago.

If Trump had been born to a poor family, he would be living on skid row talking to light posts or have died of COVID.

Really good medical care can noticable improve your life. This crap about anti-vaxxer, essential oils or drinking bleach to cure illness is just for us middle class and poor. It's modern day voodoo. It's cheap and ineffective. Designed for people who can't afford $30,000 medical bills. And if you can afford it, it won't be top of the line, expert treatment.

Do you think Trump would have survived COVID if he had been you or I?

No, Trump's going to go on being the stinking Nazi babbling nonsense while his cult takes it as God's word for a good 13 to 20 years still. Modern medicine really is almost miraculous if you can afford it.

I'm sorry to break the news to you Melania.

CrispyQ

(36,661 posts)
41. The audacity of him to tell his cult that if he beat Covid they could too.
Sun Feb 25, 2024, 12:16 PM
Feb 2024

Well sure, if you can be air lifted to a hospital where you have your own team of medical experts & the latest antivirals & cutting-edge technology at your fingertips.

Wednesdays

(17,572 posts)
69. You really think he'll live to be 97?
Sun Feb 25, 2024, 04:36 PM
Feb 2024

Really?
I give him ten more years, tops. Even with all that wealth and "miraculous medicine." His diet, family medical history, and his lifestyle will do him in long before his 90's.

sheshe2

(84,227 posts)
73. Then he gets locked up in an asylum.
Sun Feb 25, 2024, 04:59 PM
Feb 2024

I have no problems with that as long they commit him for life.

Desert Dog

(75 posts)
31. Timing is everything
Sun Feb 25, 2024, 11:40 AM
Feb 2024

Trump continues to slide. Haley stays in the race as back up, but his lick spittle cult will never abandon their idea of revenge. His court losses and crimes almost don't matter to independents because his decline on the cognitives is so obvious. RNC wishes to hide him, but there is no telling Trump what to do. He continues to babble and slur. Most voters are repelled.

Trump picks someone completely unlikable like Tim Scott or Vivaswarmy. Even if he croaks or quits before election day, they VP candidate is so bad as to not be an option. Trump has dug such a big hole that pandering to blacks and women with Scott or Haley pick will not move numbers.

After he loses by twenty million votes, he wigs out during a public speech and collapses. I mean REALLY loses it. Hamberder style tantrum.

Magas still do not go away. They have no shame and will stew on their idiocy for generations. There will never be another Trump because no other politician spent the last 20 years on TV cosplaying the rich boss. GOP back bench is horrific.

Trump, while doing incredible damage to the US and earth in general.. ends out being a great thing for the Democratic Party and US. The party gets new access to rural and middle America at just the right time. The absurdness of Trump demise and GOP spiral will help with Independents for years. Biden will continue to do a good job but will resign shortly after 2026 mid terms. Harris will become first woman president and America will love her energy and spirit. Because of mid term appointment, she will be eligible for 2 more elections. Biden will cement hero status as he gives up his presidency for good of the country. Biden give Harris a head start to win over the country and show she will be a great president. Would Harris win in a general without the head start? Maybe, but certainly easier with incumbency.

After Biden wins and we take over congress, we end the filibuster for good and get some big stuff done. Court term limits? Womens healthcare?

After midterm, Biden expands the extreme court and fixes that mess. THEN, hands off to Kamala. Biden takes the heat on the way out..

This.. is if it times out perfect. If Trump collapses early, then Haley vs Biden might expose age gap.

Dems in Senate should start debating a Women's Healthcare Protection act RIGHT NOW (or maybe August?). Keep it simple. Hospitals must treat. Abortion exception for rape and incest. Abortion drug availability. IVF guidelines. No state laws against out of state travel for healthcare. Paint the GOP in the corner on their extremism.





Tree Lady

(11,572 posts)
39. Ectopic pregnancy should be part of the
Sun Feb 25, 2024, 12:01 PM
Feb 2024

exceptions too. How they can turn a woman away who has this is beyond me. My daughter almost died from it.

Diraven

(571 posts)
34. Doesn't matter
Sun Feb 25, 2024, 11:47 AM
Feb 2024

Media has already decided the 2024 election narrative is Biden's too old while Trump is manly and virile.

FakeNoose

(33,067 posts)
46. For the Twitterless ...
Sun Feb 25, 2024, 12:43 PM
Feb 2024

This story points to the original article in Salon, dated Feb. 23, 2024...
(link) https://www.salon.com/2024/02/23/dr-john-gartner-on-a-tale-of-two-brains-bidens-brain-is-aging-brain-is-dementing/

Dr. John Gartner on a tale of two brains: "Biden's brain is aging. Trump's brain is dementing"

Donald Trump has demonstrated, in repeated and dangerous ways, that he appears to be profoundly unwell mentally and emotionally. Some of the country’s and world’s leading mental health professionals have concluded that based on his behavior, Trump is likely a sociopath if not a psychopath.

Whatever one may think about the specifics of his policies, President Joe Biden, on the other hand, is a responsible leader and an institutionalist who believes in America and the democratic experiment. By comparison, Donald Trump hates democracy, attempted a coup on Jan. 6, and is a megalomaniac who believes that he is some type of god or messiah. Whatever a fence sitter, undecided, or disgruntled Democrat or other member of Biden’s 2020 electoral coalition who is angry at him over a specific policy may think and feel, there is no issue where Donald Trump will be a real improvement. Moreover, Trump and his MAGA movement will punish those people who they view as being members of the Democratic Party's base of support. Ultimately, a “principled” vote against President Biden (or deciding to abstain in protest) is a vote for Trump and American neofascism.
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gab13by13

(21,654 posts)
53. I hesitated to post this because I believe in karma,
Sun Feb 25, 2024, 01:16 PM
Feb 2024

wife and I are both 76.

I posted it because it would truly be karma if all of the Magat rantings about President Biden's mental deficiencies came back to haunt them. What Biden is experiencing is just natural old age setting in, Trump's problem is much more serious.

Bayard

(22,361 posts)
56. Would it be wrong to make a montage ad of him slurring words?
Sun Feb 25, 2024, 01:33 PM
Feb 2024

I think it would be damn effective.

Hey--if they can mock Biden's age.....

LeftInTX

(26,001 posts)
64. He needs to go to assistive living/memory care
Sun Feb 25, 2024, 03:18 PM
Feb 2024

They've been saying he has Alzheimers for 7 years now.

Wonder Why

(3,481 posts)
75. "I have the best Alzheimer's anyone has ever had. My doctor told me
Sun Feb 25, 2024, 05:18 PM
Feb 2024

he'd never seen Alzheimer’s that complete. Better than Lincoln, Washington or that guy Obama I beat. Everyone praises my Alzheimer’s. Even Karl Marx, one of the Three Stooges texted me and added his congratulations. God told me what a good job I did on it. That's why those idiot prospectors and judges are wrong. Buy my sneakers and my Alzheimer’s record will never be beaten."

Jilly_in_VA

(10,081 posts)
76. He's been there for awhile
Sun Feb 25, 2024, 05:26 PM
Feb 2024

Or somewhere. There is/was a guy on Twitter (when it was that and not Xitter) when I was still there who made it his business to track him, and he swore the guy had frontotemporal dementia. He could and did cite evidence of every single miscue that led him to believe this, and he had hundreds of followers who agreed with him, me included.

bdamomma

(64,019 posts)
77. Maybe
Sun Feb 25, 2024, 05:36 PM
Feb 2024

Dr Gartner should enilghten our media on this. His father had Alzheimer's. Rotten apples do not fall far from wicked branches.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,240 posts)
79. Someone (like Dr. Ronny Feelgood?) should pass it on to TSF that
Sun Feb 25, 2024, 06:19 PM
Feb 2024

washing down a hefty dose of ivermectin with a Clorox cocktail, along with sticking a UV light up his keister, has been said by many fine people to prevent Alzheimers.

Nasruddin

(758 posts)
81. Please stop it
Sun Feb 25, 2024, 07:21 PM
Feb 2024

I know this kind of thing is comforting, but it isn't really helpful.
Various people have been saying this since at least the middle of his term as president. There was at least 1 person
who claimed he'd be in a wheelchair or confined by early 2021.

I agreed with this, but it did not happen. And it shows no sign of happening. He's wacky alright but showing no
signs of inability to carry out his discreditable life. He just keeps on going.

Drug addict, maybe. Exhausted old guy, probably. Massively disordered personality for sure.
This is what we have to deal with. He's not going to the skilled nursing facility any time soon.

gab13by13

(21,654 posts)
107. Have a link to back that up?
Sun Feb 25, 2024, 11:56 PM
Feb 2024

I just posted what an expert believes. Magats are going to bash President Biden no matter what we say about Trump. I haven't seen any reputable experts claiming that Biden is senile.

samplegirl

(11,560 posts)
86. Early stages??
Sun Feb 25, 2024, 07:40 PM
Feb 2024

God I hate to see late stages. I had him ready for
Nursing home after he told us to drink bleach.

Aussie105

(5,572 posts)
88. Early stage Alzheimer . . .
Sun Feb 25, 2024, 08:30 PM
Feb 2024

Advanced senility . . .

Life long stupidity and dislocation from reality . . .

One or more, most likely all of those.

I don't see it matters much. GOP worshippers will worship.

Quixote1818

(29,130 posts)
89. All the stress must be speeding it up too. Hopefully his brain just becomes overloaded and breaks down. nt
Sun Feb 25, 2024, 08:45 PM
Feb 2024

Aussie105

(5,572 posts)
90. The brain overload and breakdown happened a while back.
Sun Feb 25, 2024, 08:58 PM
Feb 2024

The mouth motors on, uttering whatever words float up from the swap within.

I can't wait for the mouth to stop moving.

oldsoftie

(12,735 posts)
91. I really do hate saying this but if true I hope it moves quickly
Sun Feb 25, 2024, 09:30 PM
Feb 2024

This is what trump has made me sink to

misanthrope

(7,446 posts)
101. If you've dealt with someone who suffers from Alzheimer's
Sun Feb 25, 2024, 11:41 PM
Feb 2024

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what you are saying could be defined as compassion. My father has it. Considering how it has changed him, the misery it causes him and how he spreads that misery to those around him, he would have been better off had he keeled over suddenly a few years ago. Instead, it is just a protracted torture that does nothing but wring out the family both emotionally and financially.

oldsoftie

(12,735 posts)
113. My mom was "getting there"; but was still able to live alone almost till the end
Mon Feb 26, 2024, 07:35 AM
Feb 2024

My brother & I both kinda thought what you said; she didnt want to be in a failed state. She did live to 94

raising2moredems

(645 posts)
100. They propped up Strom Thurmond...
Sun Feb 25, 2024, 11:34 PM
Feb 2024

However the turd, like raygun, is exhibiting the signs before the election. And honest to pete, bad enough the taxpayers had to pay for raygun to get premium home care. Then again, the golden pussy might hire the cheapest help she can find.

C Moon

(12,234 posts)
103. I don't know anything about dementia, but I was thinking that maybe he's on some heavy anti-anxiety meds.
Sun Feb 25, 2024, 11:47 PM
Feb 2024
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