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dalton99a

(94,113 posts)
Tue Feb 27, 2024, 07:36 PM Feb 2024

Burger chain Wendy's looking to test surge pricing at restaurants as early as next year

https://apnews.com/article/wendys-surge-pricing-tanner-burger-dynamic-9417bc235bbcd13d82966d04a6ba42bd

Burger chain Wendy’s looking to test surge pricing at restaurants as early as next year
By MICHELLE CHAPMAN
Updated 10:06 AM CST, February 27, 2024

Wendy’s is looking to test having the prices of its menu items fluctuate throughout the day based on demand, implementing a strategy that has already taken hold with ride-sharing companies and ticket sellers.

During a conference call earlier this month, Wendy’s CEO Kirk Tanner said that the Dublin, Ohio-based burger chain will start testing dynamic pricing, also known as surge pricing, as early as next year.

“Beginning as early as 2025, we will begin testing more enhanced features like dynamic pricing and daypart offerings, along with AI-enabled menu changes and suggestive selling,” he said. “As we continue to show the benefit of this technology in our company-operated restaurants, franchisee interest in digital menu boards should increase, further supporting sales and profit growth across the system.”

Wendy’s Co. plans to invest about $20 million to launch digital menu boards at all of its U.S. company-run restaurants by the end of 2025. It also plans to invest approximately $10 million over the next two years to support digital menu enhancements globally.

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So the more cars ahead of you in the drive-through, the more you have to pay

Genius move


“Consumers, by and large, understand that companies need to make a profit. But, when a company appears to be sticking it to a consumer in a moment of need, the customer resents it,” said John Dinsmore, a marketing professor at Wright State University in Dayton, Ohio, who researches dynamic pricing.

Some 52% of consumers surveyed by software company Capterra last year said dynamic pricing in restaurants is the equivalent of price gouging.

A good example is Coca-Cola, according to Dinsmore. “Around the turn of the century, they experimented with vending machines that raised the cost of drinks based on the outside temperature. The hotter the weather, the more expensive the soda. Consumers hated it. They understandably felt exploited. It violated consumers’ sense of price fairness,” he said. “I think you are going to see a similar response to Wendy’s dynamic pricing.”

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2024/02/27/wendys-menu-surge-pricing/72761277007/



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Burger chain Wendy's looking to test surge pricing at restaurants as early as next year (Original Post) dalton99a Feb 2024 OP
Great way to lose business during your busiest times, I guess. tanyev Feb 2024 #1
My thought Rebl2 Feb 2024 #2
Exactly what I was thinking. Where'd they get that idea, from AI? brush Feb 2024 #3
got it from Uber, apparently. niyad Feb 2024 #22
Ok, I've been the victim of that with Uber doing that during the holidays... brush Feb 2024 #23
Yep, people will soon be counting cars at the drive-thru Xavier Breath Feb 2024 #6
There will be phone apps that do that for us ArizonaLib Feb 2024 #11
And increase it during slow periods Zeitghost Feb 2024 #7
Maybe that is the goal, make people eat at slow times. Irish_Dem Feb 2024 #10
The goal with any time based pricing structure like that Zeitghost Feb 2024 #19
Yes that seems to be the goal. Irish_Dem Feb 2024 #20
So offer discounts during slow times Happy Hoosier Feb 2024 #25
Will it show the amount or percentage the customer is being 'surged'? keithbvadu2 Feb 2024 #4
Actually, offering something like an early bird special, or happy hour promotion during slow periods could work to Freethinker65 Feb 2024 #5
surged away from wendy's maybe 30 yrs ago nt msongs Feb 2024 #8
Goodbye, Wendys Maeve Feb 2024 #9
I need a Wendy's trip. SarahD Feb 2024 #12
So, this is what they teach in business school these days? hatrack Feb 2024 #13
Well I will have eaten my last Wendy's double burger by the end of this year. n/t Jacson6 Feb 2024 #14
What's next dynamic pricing on healthcare or emergency response services? EarthFirst Feb 2024 #15
2 patients waiting? Your Band Aid costs $659. 5 patients waiting? $1299 Band Aid, plus a peak handling charge dalton99a Feb 2024 #17
Wendy's CEO got paid $8 million last year including salary and stock options, doc03 Feb 2024 #16
If they believe an uptick in slow hours will offset the lost customers during office lunch hours, Torchlight Feb 2024 #18
Spicy chicken sandwich Always Blue Feb 2024 #21
McDonalds Japan does something like this miyazaki Feb 2024 #24
"Oh no! Don't give me a reason to categorically avoid your lousy company!" RockRaven Feb 2024 #26
And the extra profit will trickle down to the workers nilram Feb 2024 #27
They will be paid surge wages. dalton99a Feb 2024 #28
I don't buy their crappy food now. GoodRaisin Feb 2024 #29
 

brush

(61,033 posts)
3. Exactly what I was thinking. Where'd they get that idea, from AI?
Tue Feb 27, 2024, 07:43 PM
Feb 2024

They won't be the first company to make stupid decisions from using AI.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
23. Ok, I've been the victim of that with Uber doing that during the holidays...
Wed Feb 28, 2024, 12:25 AM
Feb 2024

I assume Lyft does the same, but the two ride share companies creating a mini-monopoly are quite different than a fast food joint with competitors all around one can drive a block away too.

We'll see how they fare with this move.

Xavier Breath

(6,640 posts)
6. Yep, people will soon be counting cars at the drive-thru
Tue Feb 27, 2024, 08:03 PM
Feb 2024

and making a decision. One or two cars? Ok. More than that? Looks like McDonald's.

ArizonaLib

(1,303 posts)
11. There will be phone apps that do that for us
Tue Feb 27, 2024, 08:42 PM
Feb 2024

Gas prices now fluctuate more than 30 cents a gallon between shifts, whereas they used to change a couple of cents at a time. Apps like gas buddy make it easier to buy cheap gas. However we still get screwed when the lowest gas price is inflated or controlled by collusion because of lack of competition. The whole hamburger fast food industry sells heart disease. Wendy's led the harassment campaign against Ellen Degeneres years ago.

Irish_Dem

(81,259 posts)
10. Maybe that is the goal, make people eat at slow times.
Tue Feb 27, 2024, 08:42 PM
Feb 2024

People come before or after the usual lunch rush.

 

Zeitghost

(4,557 posts)
19. The goal with any time based pricing structure like that
Tue Feb 27, 2024, 10:00 PM
Feb 2024

Whether it's surge pricing, happy hours, matinee tickets, early bird specials or anything else that incentivizes people to consume at slow times and penalizes them for consuming during busy times is to even out the swings in demand.

It makes things more efficient and easier to manage logistics and staffing requirements.

Irish_Dem

(81,259 posts)
20. Yes that seems to be the goal.
Tue Feb 27, 2024, 10:02 PM
Feb 2024

Those with flexible schedules will eat at the least expensive times.

Happy Hoosier

(9,535 posts)
25. So offer discounts during slow times
Wed Feb 28, 2024, 01:19 AM
Feb 2024

Rather than increasing pricing during busy times. The price differential is more or less the same, but the psychological impact is much different. The “discounts” will seem attractive whereas “surge” pricing is seen as gouging.

Freethinker65

(11,203 posts)
5. Actually, offering something like an early bird special, or happy hour promotion during slow periods could work to
Tue Feb 27, 2024, 07:48 PM
Feb 2024

Increase business at slower times.

Free beverage with $5 purchase M-F from 2-4? Save $1 per combo meal after 8 pm?

When I was younger, I took advantage of Sonic Happy Hours for a slushy a few times during past road trips (something I would never do for full price).

Maeve

(43,456 posts)
9. Goodbye, Wendys
Tue Feb 27, 2024, 08:19 PM
Feb 2024

Although, to be fair, I almost never eat fast food anymore. Been eating at Wendy's since, well, since soon after it started. Still like the Jr bacon cheeseburger...but the "old fashioned hamburger " and reasonable prices are too last century, I guess

hatrack

(64,886 posts)
13. So, this is what they teach in business school these days?
Tue Feb 27, 2024, 08:45 PM
Feb 2024

Go out of your way to piss off customers?

dalton99a

(94,113 posts)
17. 2 patients waiting? Your Band Aid costs $659. 5 patients waiting? $1299 Band Aid, plus a peak handling charge
Tue Feb 27, 2024, 09:39 PM
Feb 2024

doc03

(39,086 posts)
16. Wendy's CEO got paid $8 million last year including salary and stock options,
Tue Feb 27, 2024, 09:30 PM
Feb 2024

the cost of a hamberder doesn't matter to him.

Torchlight

(6,823 posts)
18. If they believe an uptick in slow hours will offset the lost customers during office lunch hours,
Tue Feb 27, 2024, 09:49 PM
Feb 2024

then I get they feeling they haven't looked into this quite as rationaly as they may have thought. Most fast food places in urban areas cater to lunch crowds whose lunch hours are dictated by their own offices rather than menu pricing.

Always Blue

(71 posts)
21. Spicy chicken sandwich
Tue Feb 27, 2024, 11:17 PM
Feb 2024
https://www.yelloh.com/product/fully-cooked-hot-and-spicy-breaded-chicken-breast-fillets/56250

Pretty sure this is the spicy chicken that Wendy's serves. They are pretty good and no rush hour sur charge. They are going to be charging more, while McDonald's has learned that they need to charge less?

miyazaki

(2,649 posts)
24. McDonalds Japan does something like this
Wed Feb 28, 2024, 12:56 AM
Feb 2024

Middle of the day their combo/sets are a dollar cheaper. With the currency exchange at what it is, a medium Big Mac combo is about $4.50. Score!

As someone mentioned above, "losing business"? Not here.

RockRaven

(19,365 posts)
26. "Oh no! Don't give me a reason to categorically avoid your lousy company!"
Wed Feb 28, 2024, 01:39 AM
Feb 2024

Fuck off, Wendy's!

nilram

(3,549 posts)
27. And the extra profit will trickle down to the workers
Wed Feb 28, 2024, 02:49 AM
Feb 2024

who worked during the high volume surge, right?

right?

GoodRaisin

(10,922 posts)
29. I don't buy their crappy food now.
Wed Feb 28, 2024, 06:23 AM
Feb 2024

Went to one 2 years ago and they gave me a cold burger and cold fries. Haven’t returned since.

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