Claire McCaskill just made a good point about ucommitted on MSNBC

[senseandsensibility]

She pointed out that Dearborn (with a high Arab American pop) did not vote for Biden in 2020. They voted for Sanders. So they are really not Biden voters anyway.

[Frasier Balzov]

1. Bernie still aligns with them.

If I understand where he stands.

[All Mixed Up]

2. But did they vote Biden in November, 2020?

How many who are voting uncommitted now have zero plans to vote for Biden in November compared to those who voted Bernie in 2020? That might be the difference in Biden winning Michigan and Trump winning.

FWIW: Biden won Dearborn with 74% of the vote vs Trump in 2020.

[senseandsensibility]

4. I haven't heard any uncommitted saying they will vote for rump

although I know that doesn't mean there aren't any.

[AZSkiffyGeek]

7. I saw one quoted here or in the NYT who said they wouldn't vote

Haven’t heard any say they were voting for TFG.
In AZ I have a friend who is “researching all the options” because she has to vote for Biden in November and wanted to have some more choice now.
Whatever. Everyone who isn’t Biden on the ballot is a crank - that’s all I need to know…

[DemocraticPatriot]

13. Agreed, the most extreme among them are only saying

that they WON'T vote for President Biden in November....

NONE of them have stated that they will vote for Trump,
as far has been reported.... (I'm a Michigan man, so paying particular attention to this)


I think that women and young women in Michigan will make up the difference,
but I think some of these uncommitted will ultimately support President Biden also,
considering the alternative....

[Rebl2]

22. They may not

vote at all in November.

[doc03]

3. What do they think they will gain with Trump as President? nt

[senseandsensibility]

5. My understanding is that they're doing this as a protest

and will come back to Biden in Nov. Of course time will tell.

[ShazzieB]

18. I hope youre right.

What worries me is that I think at least some of them want Biden to completely pull US support for Israel. I don't agree with Bibi about a lot of things, but I don't think that's realistic, not after decades of the country being such a staunch ally of Israel.

A lot can change between now and November, but it may not change enough to satisfy some people.

[Irish_Dem]

6. Exactly. Trump might nuke the whole region.

[doc03]

9. Trump's buddy Lindsey said Gaza should be leveled nt

[Irish_Dem]

11. Yep. Some people are being very foolish in their rhetoric and decision making.

[karynnj]

8. The important question is who they voted for in the general election

This does not make CM's point wrong, but there would be a difference between voting for Sanders, then Biden vs uncommitted, then Biden.

This is not even something where polling now will say anything about November. Clearly Biden's team needs to explain how limited control Biden had and has over Netanyahu. Even if Biden's team's work leads to a ceasefire, the problem is the incredible loss of life that already happened.

One concern I have is that it is in Netanyahu's interest to continue being at war ... and he likely would see it as a plus that his actions, that the US has little control over, hurts Biden and helps Trump.

[PCIntern]

10. I am not going to comment because

It appears my opinions in this matter are extremely unpopular. I’ll leave it at that.

[DemocraticPatriot]

15. You should not censor yourself.....

say what you feel!


There is no rule that says you must read all of the replies (or any of them!)

((Sometimes I ignore replies myself,
if I suspect I will be burned therein, LOL)

[PCIntern]

19. I'm not...

Many others are.

[BootinUp]

24. I just don't think it means much. nt

[Cha]

12. How about the GE, though? TY!

But yeah that is a good point about the primary.

[senseandsensibility]

14. That's the million dollar question

So much is unknown at this point. Stressful all around, isn't it?

[Cha]

16. Yes So Stressful!

Link to tweet

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

21. Briahna Joy Gray has never voted Democratic

She was a big Jill Stein supporter in 2016

[Cha]

23. So Well Aware.. and she has NO "MORALS"!!

[MOMFUDSKI]

17. They can be deported or put in camps right

after the election if they stick to their guns. Proceed

[OAITW r.2.0]

26. I get primary action, but GE is a whole different situation.

[hay rick]

20. I mistrust the impending commentary.

I expect the Democratic uncommitted vote will be compared to the much lower uncommitted vote in previous primaries and represented as a November non-vote or vote for third party or Trump. I believe the bulk of the uncommitted votes are a statement of dissatisfaction with Gaza policy. I do not think it translates to significantly reduced support for Biden in November when the alternative is Trump.

[Tarheel_Dem]

25. Claire is right as usual. I don't want the POTUS to be held hostage to a group who never liked him to begin with.

Some in the Arab American community are trying awfully hard to make this a difficult reelection for Pres Biden. I'm gonna go out on a limb and speculate that many don't really care as much about Gaza as they would have us believe. A good bit of this is about score settling. Why the hell would anyone think Joe Biden should be held to ransom for the actions of another sovereign nation, especially when that nation was attacked by one of the many terrorist groups on its doorstep?

I'm no fan of Netanyahu or his Likud Party, and many folks may not like the response to the actions of Oct 7th, but the folks in Dearborn, MI aren't living with the threat of being awakened in the middle of the night at gunpoint, kidnapped & raped just for being born Jewish. Just sayin'...