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Biden is winning the Michigan primary by a much bigger margin than Trump, but here's the NYT alert I get... (Original Post) Silent3 Feb 2024 OP
Typical MustLoveBeagles Feb 2024 #1
I stopped reading/subscribing to the NYT after they helped Bush start an unnecessary war in Iraq. usaf-vet Feb 2024 #19
That's when I punted on them, too SomedayKindaLove Feb 2024 #20
And Biden very easily defeated 'uncommitted', and had more 'raw votes' DemocraticPatriot Feb 2024 #2
Catapulting the "Abandon Biden" and "Genocide Joe" propaganda dalton99a Feb 2024 #3
Biden easily won on his way to an inevitable renomination, while trump faced opposition to his raping and fraud unblock Feb 2024 #4
NYT is a disgrace. Baitball Blogger Feb 2024 #5
even worse FHRRK Feb 2024 #6
Think 99.9% of NYT's readers are smart enough not to get swayed by that. Silent Type Feb 2024 #7
The statement is true SCantiGOP Feb 2024 #24
Agree. I also understand why people react negatively to anything that favors trump or doesn't Silent Type Feb 2024 #25
"in the context of current American media" is an unhealthy context, however Silent3 Feb 2024 #28
I don't have an objection to the summary... brooklynite Feb 2024 #8
Really? ... aggiesal Feb 2024 #13
That's what the headline DID say... brooklynite Feb 2024 #16
I don't think the NYT actively wants to push voters toward Trump. It's more a problem... Silent3 Feb 2024 #18
Biden is the sitting President Polybius Feb 2024 #17
And here's the actual New York Times headline: brooklynite Feb 2024 #9
It's not slanted *every* time, but disproportionately Biden wins are downplayed n/t Silent3 Feb 2024 #11
Biden got 617,728 votes Tickle Feb 2024 #30
I predicted this. Somehow we are in disarray. Not them nt. mucifer Feb 2024 #10
K&R spanone Feb 2024 #12
AND the endless MSM pretense that Trump looks like a viable political candidate instead of Putin's agent of chaos. Ford_Prefect Feb 2024 #14
The uncommitted vote in 2012 with Obama was 11%, tonight it is only about 14%. Bummer for Tlaib. SunSeeker Feb 2024 #15
It's down to 12% now, but it's a lot more votes AZSkiffyGeek Feb 2024 #26
Yes, I would crawl over broken glass to vote for Biden. nt SunSeeker Feb 2024 #29
The reporting is accurate RussBLib Feb 2024 #21
I never said inaccurate, I pointed out the spin n/t Silent3 Feb 2024 #27
and that is why i broke up with the nytimes nt orleans Feb 2024 #22
This framing gives Trump cover when he challenges Biden's win in November. BadgerMom Feb 2024 #23
It is a joke at this point. Voltaire2 Feb 2024 #31
A suggestion PJMcK Feb 2024 #32

usaf-vet

(7,828 posts)
19. I stopped reading/subscribing to the NYT after they helped Bush start an unnecessary war in Iraq.
Wed Feb 28, 2024, 01:08 AM
Feb 2024

They are not trustworthy.

 

DemocraticPatriot

(5,410 posts)
2. And Biden very easily defeated 'uncommitted', and had more 'raw votes'
Tue Feb 27, 2024, 10:50 PM
Feb 2024

than Trump....



(I guess they ran out of breath before they could complete their coverage of the primary.....)


unblock

(56,230 posts)
4. Biden easily won on his way to an inevitable renomination, while trump faced opposition to his raping and fraud
Tue Feb 27, 2024, 10:58 PM
Feb 2024

There, fixed it.

SCantiGOP

(14,736 posts)
24. The statement is true
Wed Feb 28, 2024, 01:47 AM
Feb 2024

Biden didn’t have an opponent.
I do see some similarities between people on the right who reject FOX for being too liberal now, and those on our side that get really upset about how slanted the NYT is. The NYT is still very liberal in the context of current American media.

 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
25. Agree. I also understand why people react negatively to anything that favors trump or doesn't
Wed Feb 28, 2024, 01:59 AM
Feb 2024

bash him outright. But, NYT, WP, etc., aren’t going to endorse trump.

 

Silent3

(15,909 posts)
28. "in the context of current American media" is an unhealthy context, however
Wed Feb 28, 2024, 03:03 AM
Feb 2024

Current American media works way too hard, in the wrong way, to try to appear unbiased, becoming biased to the right in the process.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
8. I don't have an objection to the summary...
Tue Feb 27, 2024, 11:18 PM
Feb 2024

It doesn't say or imply that Trump did "better" than Biden....unless people want to imagine it does.

aggiesal

(10,845 posts)
13. Really? ...
Wed Feb 28, 2024, 12:09 AM
Feb 2024

Biden 80.2%
Uncommitted 14%

Trump 67.2%
Haley 27.7%

Biden leads by 66+ percentage points
Trump leads by 39+ percentage points

Pendejo45 wins easily with only a 39% more
but Biden faces opposition with 66% lead.

The headline should have been reversed, with Biden winning easily and Pendejo45 faces opposition.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
16. That's what the headline DID say...
Wed Feb 28, 2024, 12:16 AM
Feb 2024

...people here are getting riled up about an website notification.

If people really imagine that the Times WANTS to push voters to Trump, I'd say they're doing a lousy job of it.....

 

Silent3

(15,909 posts)
18. I don't think the NYT actively wants to push voters toward Trump. It's more a problem...
Wed Feb 28, 2024, 12:44 AM
Feb 2024

…of framing they’ve let themselves get caught up in, an excess of both-siderism and trying so hard not to appear biased to the left that bias to the right occurs, letting themselves grow numb to the outrageous things Trump does and says as if those things shouldn’t still be big news that sounds loud alarms, too often treating Trump as just another candidate in just another horse race when he is, by reasonably unbiased, objective standards, a clear threat to democracy in America, falling into lazy narratives like “Biden is too old”, etc., etc.

They don’t have to be actively, consciously pushing people toward Trump to be hurting Biden and helping Trump.

Polybius

(22,001 posts)
17. Biden is the sitting President
Wed Feb 28, 2024, 12:30 AM
Feb 2024

It's a little different than the idiot running in a primary against a big name Republican.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
9. And here's the actual New York Times headline:
Tue Feb 27, 2024, 11:23 PM
Feb 2024

"Biden and Trump Win Michigan Primaries Amid Discontent in Both Parties"

 

Silent3

(15,909 posts)
11. It's not slanted *every* time, but disproportionately Biden wins are downplayed n/t
Tue Feb 27, 2024, 11:29 PM
Feb 2024
 

Tickle

(4,131 posts)
30. Biden got 617,728 votes
Wed Feb 28, 2024, 05:10 AM
Feb 2024

Rumples got 795,909 votes

That could be why we feel the down play

Ford_Prefect

(8,632 posts)
14. AND the endless MSM pretense that Trump looks like a viable political candidate instead of Putin's agent of chaos.
Wed Feb 28, 2024, 12:11 AM
Feb 2024

SunSeeker

(58,340 posts)
15. The uncommitted vote in 2012 with Obama was 11%, tonight it is only about 14%. Bummer for Tlaib.
Wed Feb 28, 2024, 12:13 AM
Feb 2024
The share of “uncommitted” vote Tuesday stood at 14%, with 33% of expected votes counted. For comparison purposes, when Barack Obama ran for re-election in 2012, the uncommitted vote in Michigan’s Democratic primary was 11%.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/biden-win-michigan-democratic-primary-election-rcna139691

AZSkiffyGeek

(12,744 posts)
26. It's down to 12% now, but it's a lot more votes
Wed Feb 28, 2024, 02:46 AM
Feb 2024

In 2012, the turnout was MUCH smaller - there were less than 200K voters and only around 20K Uncommitted votes.
This time there are around 600K votes so far and almost 80K uncommitted.
It does seem odd that the turnout isso high in an essentially uncontested election though. Were people who wouldn't normally vote in an incumbent primary motivated to show up by the threat of the Uncommitted movement?
Is this similar to the write-in campaign in New Hampshire that was essentially a show of strength against Phillips and Williamson?
Are Democrats going to the polls in larger numbers for an incumbent to say that, yes, the vast majority of us DO want Biden?

BadgerMom

(3,424 posts)
23. This framing gives Trump cover when he challenges Biden's win in November.
Wed Feb 28, 2024, 01:43 AM
Feb 2024

It’s an issue now in terms of how undecided people perceive Biden. It’s an issue in the future because how it might be used/abused.

PJMcK

(25,060 posts)
32. A suggestion
Wed Feb 28, 2024, 08:56 AM
Feb 2024

Turn off the NYT alerts. They’re BS.

It’ll lower your blood pressure!

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