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This is the moment when the effort to boot Fani Willis off the Trump RICO case died. (Original Post) kpete Feb 28 OP
That was enjoyable. no_hypocrisy Feb 28 #1
nevertheless, she should either not have dated him or not have hired him lapfog_1 Feb 28 #2
I agree. Kind of sus. Oneironaut Feb 28 #3
This has turned into "did they lie" issue Tickle Feb 28 #4
Retrumplicans would "raise questions" about the sun rising in the east maxrandb Feb 28 #7
Oh My God. "I didn't witness anything." Baitball Blogger Feb 28 #5
Post removed Post removed Feb 28 #6
Hopefully this is correct. republianmushroom Feb 28 #8

no_hypocrisy

(46,390 posts)
1. That was enjoyable.
Wed Feb 28, 2024, 10:24 AM
Feb 28

I relish the opportunity to object to speculation.

Speculation
“Calls for speculation” is an appropriate objection to a question that requires the witness to guess or speculate on an issue where they do not possess direct knowledge. Attorneys can also raise the “speculation” objection if a witness is speculating with their testimony, regardless of the question they are responding to.

Example
If an attorney asks “What do you think the defendant’s intentions were?”, it is a clear call for speculation.

https://www.clio.com/blog/objections-in-court/#:~:text=%E2%80%9CCalls%20for%20speculation%E2%80%9D%20is%20an,do%20not%20possess%20direct%20knowledge.

lapfog_1

(29,252 posts)
2. nevertheless, she should either not have dated him or not have hired him
Wed Feb 28, 2024, 11:46 AM
Feb 28

as a contractor.

I did large scale acquisitions for the federal government for many years, and even the appearance of inappropriate relations is to be avoided.

This list of restrictions on who I could hire or who could send gifts to me, etc was very long. you could give me a T-shirt or a coffee mug with your logo on it, or a pen... so long as the value wasn't over $25. You could not buy me dinner.

As soon as they started dating, she needed to press pause on the relationship.

Oneironaut

(5,555 posts)
3. I agree. Kind of sus.
Wed Feb 28, 2024, 11:52 AM
Feb 28

Is it the worst thing in the world? Nope. Is it in any way acceptable? No.

Trump is still a criminal, and, it sucked that the GOP was trying to jump all over this and cast doubt on his guilt because of it, which is a massive non-sequitur.

Tickle

(2,635 posts)
4. This has turned into "did they lie" issue
Wed Feb 28, 2024, 11:56 AM
Feb 28

Allegedly, Wade's phone records indicate that they were in close proximity multiple times. Fani's response seemingly downplays this evidence, suggesting it merely indicates their presence in the same area and not necessarily evidence of collusion. However, this raised questions from Republicans about whether Fani had previously utilized phone records as evidence in her own cases. Must be their plan B.

It's worth noting that Fani's decision to intervene in Wade's trial or provide testimony may have been ill-advised. Additionally, an old acquaintance, with whom they no longer maintain contact, has claimed Fani and Wade were together in 2019.

maxrandb

(15,440 posts)
7. Retrumplicans would "raise questions" about the sun rising in the east
Wed Feb 28, 2024, 12:30 PM
Feb 28

if Donnie Dipshit told them it rose in the south.

This is nothing but classic Retrumplican rat-fucking.

As for workplace "romances", somewhere north of 60% are the number of marriages that begin that way.

Hell, even in the Navy, we knew that when we put men and women on ships together, some were going to develop "relationships". For those wondering, "Yes! It is possible in a shipboard rack".

Anyway, aside from making sure they weren't "consummating" their relationship in Shaft Alley, or the Anchor Windless Room, there were few restrictions on dating. Of course, chain of command, undue influence and rank were important considerations, but if the 3RD Class Boatswain's Mate was dating the 2ND Class Hull Technician, it was NOT a big deal.

A lot of people meet where they work.

Baitball Blogger

(46,828 posts)
5. Oh My God. "I didn't witness anything."
Wed Feb 28, 2024, 12:06 PM
Feb 28

"You didn't ask me if I was speculating."

Did this witness have it in for Fani Willis? Because, if it was me, I would have known to protect myself as a witness to make sure I wasn't being used for some inappropriate agenda. If someone was asking me to be a witness, and all I had was hearsay, I would have wondered what was the prosecutor's motives, since any prosecutor knows how tenuous hearsay can be.

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