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beaglelover

(4,466 posts)
Thu Feb 29, 2024, 05:51 PM Feb 2024

GOP Senator: IVF Leads To "Animal-Human Chimeras"

Mediaite reports:

On Wednesday, Sen. Cindy Hyde-Smith (R-MS) blocked the Senate bill that would have protected IVF treatment on a federal level, claiming it was an issue that should be left up to the states. But she had another reason: IVF could lead to “human-animal chimeras.”

While it’s not unpredictable for a Republican to believe that some issues are better left to the states, Hyde-Smith’s Island of Dr. Moreau scenario was certainly a wilder take on the issue of IVF. She said on the floor of the Senate on Wednesday that the bill “would legalize the creation of human-animal chimeras.”

Read the full article. For those blissfully unaware, animal-human hybrids have long been a favorite topic of Alex Jones.

https://www.mediaite.com/politics/senator-sounds-alarm-on-threat-of-human-animal-chimeras-in-blocking-bill-designed-to-protect-ivf-treatment/

How the hell to people who believe in this shit get elected to the US Senate? America is full of very dumb people............

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GOP Senator: IVF Leads To "Animal-Human Chimeras" (Original Post) beaglelover Feb 2024 OP
Perhaps she is representative of the phenomenon--given she clearly does not have human intellect. hlthe2b Feb 2024 #1
Forget it Jake, it's Mississippi maxrandb Feb 2024 #2
ROTFLMAO!!!!! AverageOldGuy Feb 2024 #31
Already, the auditions for Mitch replacement begin... Hugin Feb 2024 #3
Soup of the evening, beautiful soup, beautiful pea-green soup... Hekate Feb 2024 #7
Many elected US leaders do not have the intellectual ability or education to deal Irish_Dem Feb 2024 #4
No Argument Here DET Feb 2024 #19
Education and intelligence used to be valued to some extent. Irish_Dem Feb 2024 #22
In some places, it's flat-out opposed. cab67 Feb 2024 #42
Democracy must have an educated and informed populace. Irish_Dem Feb 2024 #47
But they can only get there if there are enough stupid people who vote for them. llmart Feb 2024 #53
Home schooled? WVlaserguy Feb 2024 #5
Au Contraire DET Feb 2024 #12
Brett Favre played football for Southern Miss. House of Roberts Feb 2024 #16
I just thought Farve had way too many concussions. Norbert Feb 2024 #24
And, no doubt . . . AverageOldGuy Feb 2024 #33
Bingo! DET Feb 2024 #63
Oh Wow... DET Feb 2024 #65
Mississippi has very stringent entrance exams..... Jack from Charlotte Feb 2024 #35
I have friends on the Southern Mississippi faculty. cab67 Feb 2024 #44
Furries are people at the moment of conception... getagrip_already Feb 2024 #6
The Stupid -- it burns Hekate Feb 2024 #8
Shades of GWB rambling at the SOTU about musette_sf Feb 2024 #9
Public Hanging Hyde-Smith is worried the chimera will burn the hanging rope. Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2024 #10
We need to stop asking how these people get elected. HUAJIAO Feb 2024 #11
He knew the word Chimeras? Basic LA Feb 2024 #13
Mississippi has joined the chat.. You can feel the collective discourse IQ drop by 90%. Comfortably_Numb Feb 2024 #14
Well one look at empty green Arthur_Frain Feb 2024 #15
Shou Tucker would like to know your location sakabatou Feb 2024 #17
OK. She beats out Taterbug for stupidest senator of the day, House of Roberts Feb 2024 #18
Stop electing stupid people. Johonny Feb 2024 #20
Watching these motherfuckers The Unmitigated Gall Feb 2024 #21
So she believes that man can create life, not just God. keithbvadu2 Feb 2024 #23
These people are nuts. Only someone suffering from a God Complex believes they can confer "personhood." sop Feb 2024 #54
The chimeras get elected orthoclad Feb 2024 #25
Holy Island of Dr. Moreau, Batman! no_hypocrisy Feb 2024 #26
Chimera's are only 2 bucks when you order a sub at Subway Cheezoholic Feb 2024 #27
she watched planet of the apes et tu Feb 2024 #28
It's easy to make stupid MAGAs believe anything. I do mean ANYhing. flying_wahini Feb 2024 #29
Maggots "Say what?" rockbluff botanist Feb 2024 #30
I'm sure you're right about that. ShazzieB Feb 2024 #50
Associate Degree in Bioterrorism from Trump University? struggle4progress Feb 2024 #32
He wears a hat and drives a car. VGNonly Feb 2024 #34
She must be talking about stem cells? IcyPeas Feb 2024 #36
Either that - or Jethro's been playing with the sheep again peppertree Feb 2024 #46
She is such an embarrassment! Haggard Celine Feb 2024 #37
She's right! Xavier Breath Feb 2024 #38
Or talking raccoons Aviation Pro Feb 2024 #39
I totally want to see a centaur. cab67 Feb 2024 #40
Be careful what you wish for.... Tanuki Feb 2024 #45
There's a basic error here. cab67 Feb 2024 #48
Looks to me like there's an ass at both ends. WestMichRad Feb 2024 #61
Takes one to know one. PlutosHeart Feb 2024 #41
I love it best when DENVERPOPS Feb 2024 #43
Even Republicans with MDs show this. cab67 Feb 2024 #49
Yes! nc DENVERPOPS Mar 2024 #66
Gargoyles? Is she halucinating? bucolic_frolic Feb 2024 #51
IVF has been around for decades Mz Pip Feb 2024 #52
Ooh ooh! Can I have one? Easterncedar Feb 2024 #55
Wow. The ignorance. Beartracks Feb 2024 #56
That Al Abama guy has been showing him ass - Mississippi says hold my beer underpants Feb 2024 #57
Not knocking home schooling because she actually had a grasp of what a chimera is, but ... marble falls Feb 2024 #58
Not so fast here.. Permanut Feb 2024 #59
how do they even put their clothes on in the morning, barbtries Feb 2024 #60
BTW whenever a rethug says "leave it to the states" they mean "we don't have the ability to ban it nationally" Takket Feb 2024 #62
Why not, the entire dungeons and dragons compendium limbicnuminousity Feb 2024 #64

hlthe2b

(113,971 posts)
1. Perhaps she is representative of the phenomenon--given she clearly does not have human intellect.
Thu Feb 29, 2024, 05:53 PM
Feb 2024

Irish_Dem

(81,266 posts)
4. Many elected US leaders do not have the intellectual ability or education to deal
Thu Feb 29, 2024, 05:59 PM
Feb 2024

with serious issues.

They are an embarrassment.

Shame on the voters who elect them.

DET

(2,499 posts)
19. No Argument Here
Thu Feb 29, 2024, 06:41 PM
Feb 2024

One of my husband’s responsibilities at one of his earlier jobs was to greet guest speakers at the airport and escort them back to his organization. These were often members of the U.S. House and Senate - usually Republican. He’d come home and say that he couldn’t believe how stupid some of these people were. I didn’t believe him; how stupid can you be if you’re elected to Congress? Now I know.

Irish_Dem

(81,266 posts)
22. Education and intelligence used to be valued to some extent.
Thu Feb 29, 2024, 06:43 PM
Feb 2024

But I guess in some voting districts it is not held in high esteem.

cab67

(3,749 posts)
42. In some places, it's flat-out opposed.
Thu Feb 29, 2024, 07:54 PM
Feb 2024

A large proportion of Republicans thinks higher education is harmful to the country.

The more education one gets, the more likely one is to develop progressive points of view. This is seen not as enlightenment, but as indoctrination.

Irish_Dem

(81,266 posts)
47. Democracy must have an educated and informed populace.
Thu Feb 29, 2024, 08:05 PM
Feb 2024

So the GOP denigrates education. And brainwashes the citizenry.

llmart

(17,622 posts)
53. But they can only get there if there are enough stupid people who vote for them.
Thu Feb 29, 2024, 08:18 PM
Feb 2024

Let's face it. There are an awfully lot of stupid Americans. It's how we ended up in this predicament.

DET

(2,499 posts)
12. Au Contraire
Thu Feb 29, 2024, 06:19 PM
Feb 2024

She’s a proud graduate of Copiah–Lincoln Community College and the University of Southern Mississippi. I blame Mississippi.

AverageOldGuy

(3,835 posts)
33. And, no doubt . . .
Thu Feb 29, 2024, 07:36 PM
Feb 2024

. . . she went through her first twelve years of school in one of Mississippi's "segregation academies."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Segregation_academy

Probably this one in her hometown of Brookhaven, MS.
https://www.brookhavenacademy.org/

From her online bio:

Hyde-Smith and her husband Mike have a daughter, Anna-Michael. They reside in Brookhaven and are active members of Macedonia Baptist Church. A fifth-generation farming family, the Senator’s family raises beef cattle and are partners in a local stockyard auction market in Brookhaven.


". . . raises beef cattle . . . " No wonder she spouts bullshit.

DET

(2,499 posts)
63. Bingo!
Thu Feb 29, 2024, 10:09 PM
Feb 2024

I’d never heard of segregation academies before. Apparently she did indeed go to one, and it sounds like a real winner. Per Wikipedia…

She attended Lawrence County Academy in Monticello, a segregation academy established in response to Supreme Court rulings ordering the desegregation of public schools. The school's team nickname was the Rebels; the mascot was a "Col. Reb" who carried a Confederate flag.

Disturbingly, there were apparently a number of segregation academies in Virginia as well - most in rural areas, but there was even a now defunct one in Fairfax.

DET

(2,499 posts)
65. Oh Wow...
Thu Feb 29, 2024, 10:49 PM
Feb 2024

Right after I wrote this, I asked my husband if he had ever heard of segregation academies (he grew up in Virginia). His answer was ‘Yes, I went to one.’ He spent one year at Flint Hill - a private school in Oakton in Fairfax County. The school had apparently started out as a segregation academy. His parents just wanted a top notch private school. My husband doesn’t remember any discriminatory behaviors by the school or the students - except some against him, as a Jew. I just looked at the Flint Hill website; tuition is now about 50k/year! You learn something new every day.

Jack from Charlotte

(2,372 posts)
35. Mississippi has very stringent entrance exams.....
Thu Feb 29, 2024, 07:44 PM
Feb 2024

Someone puts their hand on your back. If it's warm....... you're in.

cab67

(3,749 posts)
44. I have friends on the Southern Mississippi faculty.
Thu Feb 29, 2024, 07:56 PM
Feb 2024

Based on that, I have to conclude that she avoided learning anything and left just as ignorant as when she arrived. It's not Southern Miss' fault.

Hermit-The-Prog

(36,631 posts)
10. Public Hanging Hyde-Smith is worried the chimera will burn the hanging rope.
Thu Feb 29, 2024, 06:08 PM
Feb 2024
https://time.com/5461133/cindy-hyde-smith-public-hanging-lynching/


According to Greek mythology, the Chimera, Chimaera, or Chimæra was a monstrous fire-breathing hybrid creature from Lycia, Asia Minor, composed of different animal parts.
Wikipedia

HUAJIAO

(2,730 posts)
11. We need to stop asking how these people get elected.
Thu Feb 29, 2024, 06:15 PM
Feb 2024

It's simple. Republicans are stupid, hateful and ignorant.

sop

(18,621 posts)
54. These people are nuts. Only someone suffering from a God Complex believes they can confer "personhood."
Thu Feb 29, 2024, 08:19 PM
Feb 2024

The first to use the term "god complex" - a belief that one is a god - was Ernest Jones in 'Essays in Applied Psycho-Analysis.' God complex is not a clinical term, it does not appear in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders. The recognized diagnostic name for the behaviors associated with a god complex is narcissistic personality disorder associated with mania or a superiority complex.


flying_wahini

(8,275 posts)
29. It's easy to make stupid MAGAs believe anything. I do mean ANYhing.
Thu Feb 29, 2024, 07:23 PM
Feb 2024

But most people that do IVF have to have deep pockets, (ask me how I know)
so rest assured that Lots of republicans paying for IVF
will hear this crap and immediately know
they are lying about it.

rockbluff botanist

(360 posts)
30. Maggots "Say what?"
Thu Feb 29, 2024, 07:31 PM
Feb 2024

I guarantee that 95% of her constituents cannot pronounce the word, much less know what it means.

I am certain she heard it and is parroting what she heard. She is amazingly ignorant.

ShazzieB

(22,590 posts)
50. I'm sure you're right about that.
Thu Feb 29, 2024, 08:13 PM
Feb 2024

Furthermore, whatever she heard probably came out of the mouth of someone just as pig ignorant as her who had no more idea what they were talking than she did when she repeated it.

I doubt she really knows what IVF actually is, much less how it works...or how it doesn't work.

IcyPeas

(25,475 posts)
36. She must be talking about stem cells?
Thu Feb 29, 2024, 07:45 PM
Feb 2024
Human-animal chimeras
Further information: Xenotransplantation
For hybrids, see Human–animal hybrid.
Human-animal chimeras include humans having undergone non-human to human xenotransplantation, which is the transplantation of living cells, tissues or organs from one species to another.[16][17]

Patient derived xenografts are created by xenotransplantation of human tumor cells into immunocompromised mice, and is a research technique frequently used in pre-clinical oncology research.[18]

The first stable human-animal chimeras to actually exist were first created by Shanghai Second Medical University scientists in 2003, the result of having fused human cells with rabbit eggs.[17]
In 2017, a human-pig chimera was reported to have been created; the chimera was also reported to have 0.001% human cells, with the balance being pig.[19][20][21] The embryo consisted mostly pig cells and some human cells. Scientists stated that they hope to use this technology to address the shortage of donor organs.[22][23]

In 2021, a human-monkey chimera was created as a joint project between the Salk Institute in the US and Kunming University in China and published in the journal Cell.[24] This involved injecting human stem cells into monkey embryos. The embryos were only allowed to grow for a few days, but the study demonstrated that some of these embryos still had human stem cells surviving at the end of the experiments. Because humans are more closely related to monkeys than other animals, it means there is more chance of the chimeric embryos surviving for longer periods so that organs can develop. The project has opened up possibilities into organ transplantation as well as ethical concerns particularly concerning human brain development in primates.[25]


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_chimera#:~:text=Human%2Danimal%20chimeras%20include%20humans,from%20one%20species%20to%20another.

Haggard Celine

(17,821 posts)
37. She is such an embarrassment!
Thu Feb 29, 2024, 07:45 PM
Feb 2024

If you're going to be a stupid person in the Senate, the least you can do is keep your mouth shut. Why does anybody want to vote for someone who's no better than them? We need to have our best in high offices.

cab67

(3,749 posts)
48. There's a basic error here.
Thu Feb 29, 2024, 08:08 PM
Feb 2024

In any trump-horse hybrid, trump would be at the ass end.

PlutosHeart

(1,445 posts)
41. Takes one to know one.
Thu Feb 29, 2024, 07:52 PM
Feb 2024

Although in defense of all animals they (the crazy ones) are most likely made up of parts of the worst nightmares.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
43. I love it best when
Thu Feb 29, 2024, 07:56 PM
Feb 2024

Republican Politicians, commenting on anything scientific, gloriously display that they haven't even had basic High School Biology, much less Middle School Human Science classes,......

And THAT also is most prevalent in the Uber Rich Trust Fund kid's Schools used by parents who don't want to raise their own teenagers.....

cab67

(3,749 posts)
49. Even Republicans with MDs show this.
Thu Feb 29, 2024, 08:11 PM
Feb 2024

Rand Paul consistently reveals himself to be scientifically illiterate.

Then there's the paint chip consumer DeSantis appointed as Surgeon General in Florida.

It never ends.

Beartracks

(14,591 posts)
56. Wow. The ignorance.
Thu Feb 29, 2024, 08:25 PM
Feb 2024

Republicans never seem to care enough to learn about the things they think need regulating.

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marble falls

(71,926 posts)
58. Not knocking home schooling because she actually had a grasp of what a chimera is, but ...
Thu Feb 29, 2024, 08:28 PM
Feb 2024

... I bet she was home or went to a christian school.

Disclosure: I went to Missouri Synod Lutheran parochial schools until sixth grade. We were taught that dinosaurs were built from horse skeletons. Imagine my surprise when I saw my first what was called then a brontosaurus. Evolution was false. Otherwise got a good education.

A Mormon BiL told me the dinosaurs were from other planets that gawd used to build earth. That they were millions of years old but that Earth was around 4,000 years old.

barbtries

(31,308 posts)
60. how do they even put their clothes on in the morning,
Thu Feb 29, 2024, 08:48 PM
Feb 2024

let alone win elections? this is a fucking lawmaker. we're are so fucked

Takket

(23,715 posts)
62. BTW whenever a rethug says "leave it to the states" they mean "we don't have the ability to ban it nationally"
Thu Feb 29, 2024, 09:27 PM
Feb 2024

they would not leave ANYTHING to the states if they had the ability to pass it federally.

limbicnuminousity

(1,416 posts)
64. Why not, the entire dungeons and dragons compendium
Thu Feb 29, 2024, 10:21 PM
Feb 2024

is represented in Congress. MTG is a banshee, Gaetz is a satyr, Boebert is a succubus, McConnell is a wight, DeSantis is an orc and Trump is a gelatinous cube. And Mrs Hyde-Smith is a grey ooze.

Discussing biology with christofascist theocrats is a waste of time.

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