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Flash953

(129 posts)
Mon Mar 4, 2024, 03:10 AM Mar 2024

California Democrats that don't vote on Tuesday will have Steve Garvey as one of their Senators

I just finished my California mail in ballot. There are two Senate Contests one for the full 6 year term and the other for the four year term. Mail in ballots are at an all time low. But there are still a bunch of votes for Steve Garvey from older conservatives. Steve Garvey for California is like voting for Herschel Walker in Georgia. Sure I might have all the facts on this issue and I didn't think it was as big of a deal . When I looked at the ballot however it became a big deal.... Probably someone out there has more info on this. I've read in the news that Steve Garvey is beating Katie Porter. Adam Schiff and Katie Porter is who I voted for. Tell your friends it's important to vote on Tuesday. No Trump loving Steve Garvey!!!!

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California Democrats that don't vote on Tuesday will have Steve Garvey as one of their Senators (Original Post) Flash953 Mar 2024 OP
the top two will be on the general ballot. BlueWaveNeverEnd Mar 2024 #1
The top two go onto the final ballot. SoFlaBro Mar 2024 #2
We're voting for two senators here not one. two top and then another two top Flash953 Mar 2024 #12
This is incorrect FreeState Mar 2024 #18
No RandySF Mar 2024 #3
When Democrats choose not to vote, self suppress their vote, bad things happen that don't need to happen. elocs Mar 2024 #4
It's complicated...... one vote is for a 4 year term. the two senators currently are appointed by the Governor. Flash953 Mar 2024 #11
No, there was an election in 2022 Retrograde Mar 2024 #13
The DNC doesn't want two democrats in the race Clearheadsam Mar 2024 #5
Newsom used his leftover campaign BigmanPigman Mar 2024 #6
which is stupid. mopinko Mar 2024 #8
They were talking more about Porter and Schiff being Clearheadsam Mar 2024 #9
Supporters of each Democrat would donate to them, rather than to Democrats in other races muriel_volestrangler Mar 2024 #10
dems r swimming in money this cycle. even if they werent mopinko Mar 2024 #14
I forgot that you guys do a "jungle primary" now BumRushDaShow Mar 2024 #7
According to news reports Schilff is actually helping Garvey on the theory that Garvey totodeinhere Mar 2024 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author totodeinhere Mar 2024 #16
There is one Senate seat but two terms Retrograde Mar 2024 #17
Thanks for the clarification. Flash953 Mar 2024 #19

FreeState

(10,702 posts)
18. This is incorrect
Mon Mar 4, 2024, 03:51 PM
Mar 2024
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2024-02-01/2024-california-election-senate-primary-voter-guide-schiff-porter-lee-garvey

Why you have to vote twice for Senate

On the March primary ballot, voters will be asked to vote on two Senate races. Since Butler will serve as one of California’s two U.S. senators only until someone else is elected, the first race will decide who will hold the seat for the remainder of Feinstein’s unexpired term — from the date of the general election, Nov. 5, through the end of the term on Jan. 3, 2025. The second Senate race will determine who serves the next full six-year term as California’s junior senator, from January 2025 through January 2031.
 

elocs

(24,486 posts)
4. When Democrats choose not to vote, self suppress their vote, bad things happen that don't need to happen.
Mon Mar 4, 2024, 03:55 AM
Mar 2024

Here in Wisconsin in 2010 with Obama as president, the Democrats controlled state government, the legislature and governorship. Then came the off-year midterms but too many on the Left were pissed off at Obama about healthcare or were just otherwise complacent and so they decided not to vote. But Republicans turned out to vote like it was their duty.
The result? In one election the state flipped from total Democratic control to total Republican control. Since 2010 was a census year, that meant when the Republicans took power in 2011 they set to work gerrymandering the state to help them get reelected and we've suffered from it for 13 years now with hope just beginning to show on the horizon.

The moral of the story is that when Democrats and those on the Left choose not to vote or vote for a 3rd party candidate who will only be a spoiler, bad things happen. Sadly, in my 50+ years of voting strictly for Democrats, I've seen this happen too many times. With California it could be just a senator compared with what happened here in 2010, but imagine Democrats losing control of the Senate by a single seat. Far, far worse, imagine Trump getting elected because too many on the Left chose not to vote in what is easily the most important election of our lifetimes.

Vote for the Democratic candidates. Just do it.

Flash953

(129 posts)
11. It's complicated...... one vote is for a 4 year term. the two senators currently are appointed by the Governor.
Mon Mar 4, 2024, 12:00 PM
Mar 2024

Senator Feinstein died in office. Kamala Harris went to become VP.

Retrograde

(11,370 posts)
13. No, there was an election in 2022
Mon Mar 4, 2024, 02:26 PM
Mar 2024

in which Padilla (who had been appointed to fill out Harris’s term) ran for and was elected to both the remainder of that term and a full term of his own. Butler, who was appointed to fill out Feinstein’s term, did not file to run in this primary so she will be out when the results of the November election are certified

Clearheadsam

(288 posts)
5. The DNC doesn't want two democrats in the race
Mon Mar 4, 2024, 05:01 AM
Mar 2024

in November. They claim the Senste seat is safe and want to free up money for other races across the country.

BigmanPigman

(54,531 posts)
6. Newsom used his leftover campaign
Mon Mar 4, 2024, 05:10 AM
Mar 2024

funds for democrats and their causes after the recall was a bust.

mopinko

(73,246 posts)
8. which is stupid.
Mon Mar 4, 2024, 07:03 AM
Mar 2024

if it’s 2 dems, y wd they need to dump money into the race?
and it’s so good for house races.

Clearheadsam

(288 posts)
9. They were talking more about Porter and Schiff being
Mon Mar 4, 2024, 11:52 AM
Mar 2024

popular fundraisers around the country because they both well known and have been raising a ton of money for their campaign. I don’t agree either. Even Swalwell said it.🤷🏼‍♂️

muriel_volestrangler

(105,476 posts)
10. Supporters of each Democrat would donate to them, rather than to Democrats in other races
Mon Mar 4, 2024, 11:57 AM
Mar 2024

is, I presume, the argument, which seems valid.

mopinko

(73,246 posts)
14. dems r swimming in money this cycle. even if they werent
Mon Mar 4, 2024, 02:39 PM
Mar 2024

this kind of gamesmanship at this point in time is just insane imho. i heard that schiff has actually boosted garvey, tho i’m not sure how.
it’s 1 thing to fart around w the gqp to pick the guy u want to run against anywhere else, but in a jungle primary? in such a blue state? malpractice.

BumRushDaShow

(165,092 posts)
7. I forgot that you guys do a "jungle primary" now
Mon Mar 4, 2024, 06:10 AM
Mar 2024

so that really puts the onus on casting a vote in the primary instead of just sitting back and figuring to wait until the general.

totodeinhere

(13,686 posts)
15. According to news reports Schilff is actually helping Garvey on the theory that Garvey
Mon Mar 4, 2024, 02:49 PM
Mar 2024

would be easier to beat in the general election in heavily Democratic California. And I think the congressman is correct. Do you actually think that Garvey would beat Schiff in the general election? I don't.

https://calmatters.org/commentary/2024/02/adam-schiff-steve-garvey-senate/

Response to Flash953 (Original post)

Retrograde

(11,370 posts)
17. There is one Senate seat but two terms
Mon Mar 4, 2024, 03:42 PM
Mar 2024

California already has one senator duly elected to a full term in 2022. This year there are two contests. The first is to fill the seat vacated by Sen. Feinstein: that term runs from Nov. 2024-Jan. 3, 2025. That's because state election law says any vacated Senate seats will be filled at the next general election. The second is for the full term for that seat, Jan. 2025- Jan. 2031. This is explained in the state-wide voters' guide, and in some counties (Santa Clara, for example) was even stated on the ballot itself.

You can legally split your vote the way you described, but we don't get an extra senator (much as I think we deserve one).

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