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WhiskeyGrinder

(26,930 posts)
Wed Mar 6, 2024, 01:03 PM Mar 2024

National Guard and State Police Will Patrol the Subways and Check Bags (in NYC)

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/06/nyregion/subway-national-guard-police.html

Gov. Kathy Hochul said on Wednesday that she would deploy National Guard soldiers and State Police officers to the New York City subway system, where they will patrol platforms and help check bags.

(snip)

Additional law enforcement officers would add to an already large presence in the subways, where Mayor Eric Adams ordered an additional 1,000 officers in February following a 45 percent spike in crime in January compared with the same time last year.

Ms. Hochul said she would deploy 1,000 members of the authority, the State Police and the National Guard to “conduct bag checks in the city’s busiest stations.”

There will be 750 members of the New York National Guard and an additional 250 personnel from the State Police and the M.T.A.
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National Guard and State Police Will Patrol the Subways and Check Bags (in NYC) (Original Post) WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2024 OP
Oh good, more "BE VERY AFRAID!" stuff from NYT. Think. Again. Mar 2024 #1
Should it ignore the fact a governor is calling out the military to supposedly control crime? WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2024 #2
If the article were written about the question... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #5
Wasn't there an article in the last couple of days sarisataka Mar 2024 #3
There have been three homicides and "several" assaults in an ecosystem that sees 3 million people use it a day. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2024 #4
How many homicides and assaults are acceptable in a ecosystem of 3 million people? Barry Markson Mar 2024 #9
If cops and soldiers prevented homicides, this country would have none. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2024 #10
Well the article says crime is up 45% there since last year. All Mixed Up Mar 2024 #6
FWIW, that number came from the chief of transit police, and he said it was driven largely by grand larceny, WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2024 #8
Well tell that to the Democratic mayor & governor. All Mixed Up Mar 2024 #11
They sure do. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2024 #17
Ummm....Posse Comitatus violation comes to NY Nevilledog Mar 2024 #7
This will not end well angrychair Mar 2024 #12
What is the National Guard going to do? n/t Jacson6 Mar 2024 #13
Seems moves like this are becoming more co.min ripcord Mar 2024 #14
Policing is a very hard habit to break. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2024 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author NYC Liberal Mar 2024 #16
 

Think. Again.

(22,456 posts)
5. If the article were written about the question...
Wed Mar 6, 2024, 01:24 PM
Mar 2024

...of using the military in a domestic situation, I would agree with it, that is a very questionable move.

But the main import of the article is to imply that the subways are so violent and crime-ridden that there is now a need for military action in them, which is absurd.

sarisataka

(22,665 posts)
3. Wasn't there an article in the last couple of days
Wed Mar 6, 2024, 01:21 PM
Mar 2024

About how safe New York City is? Deploying the National Guard does not seem to go hand in hand with that. Typically calling out the Guard implies riot level violence.

WhiskeyGrinder

(26,930 posts)
4. There have been three homicides and "several" assaults in an ecosystem that sees 3 million people use it a day.
Wed Mar 6, 2024, 01:23 PM
Mar 2024

Sending out the military to "fight crime" does certainly set a tone.

 

Barry Markson

(280 posts)
9. How many homicides and assaults are acceptable in a ecosystem of 3 million people?
Wed Mar 6, 2024, 01:36 PM
Mar 2024

Just ball park.

WhiskeyGrinder

(26,930 posts)
8. FWIW, that number came from the chief of transit police, and he said it was driven largely by grand larceny,
Wed Mar 6, 2024, 01:32 PM
Mar 2024

pickpocketing and property theft.

 

All Mixed Up

(597 posts)
11. Well tell that to the Democratic mayor & governor.
Wed Mar 6, 2024, 01:47 PM
Mar 2024

They seem to think it's an issue that needs aggressive addressing.

angrychair

(12,257 posts)
12. This will not end well
Wed Mar 6, 2024, 02:00 PM
Mar 2024

We all know how this turns out. It will not favor Blacks and Hispanics. This green lights racial profiling and harassment and 4th amendment violations. Don't use a hammer unless you intend to pound some nails.

 

ripcord

(5,553 posts)
14. Seems moves like this are becoming more co.min
Wed Mar 6, 2024, 02:21 PM
Mar 2024

Governor Newsom sent the CHP to San Francisco to help deal with crime

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