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David__77

(24,728 posts)
Wed Mar 6, 2024, 01:08 PM Mar 2024

U.S. floods arms into Israel despite mounting alarm over war's conduct

The United States has quietly approved and delivered more than 100 separate foreign military sales to Israel since the Gaza war began Oct. 7, amounting to thousands of precision-guided munitions, small diameter bombs, bunker busters, small arms and other lethal aid, U.S. officials told members of Congress in a recent classified briefing.

The triple digit figure, which has not been previously reported, is the latest indication of Washington’s extensive involvement in the polarizing five-month conflict even as top U.S. officials and lawmakers increasingly express deep reservations about Israel’s military tactics in a campaign that has killed more than 30,000 Palestinians, according to Gaza’s health authorities.



Taken together, the weapons packages amount to a massive transfer of firepower at a time when senior U.S. officials have complained that Israeli officials have fallen short on their appeals to limit civilian casualties, allow more aid into Gaza, and refrain from rhetoric calling for the permanent displacement of Palestinians.

“That’s an extraordinary number of sales over the course of a pretty short amount of time, which really strongly suggests that the Israeli campaign would not be sustainable without this level of U.S. support,” said Jeremy Konyndyk, a former senior Biden administration official and current president of Refugees International.



https://archive.is/sPKXj

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/03/06/us-weapons-israel-gaza/

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U.S. floods arms into Israel despite mounting alarm over war's conduct (Original Post) David__77 Mar 2024 OP
This has to stop. This can very well put that orange fuck back in the white house. Who will shoulder the blame? Autumn Mar 2024 #1
The people who didn't vote for Biden AZSkiffyGeek Mar 2024 #3
If it happens then you should ask yourself why they they didn't vote for Biden. Autumn Mar 2024 #6
Nah, it's because they are okay with Trump winning AZSkiffyGeek Mar 2024 #8
Simple thinking. The are not fine with their country giving weapons to a nation slaughtering their people. Autumn Mar 2024 #11
But they are okay with electing someone who will deport them AZSkiffyGeek Mar 2024 #12
Get deported or slaughter their loved ones. Not much of a choice there. Not sure I could make that choice. Autumn Mar 2024 #13
And rather ironically, they're fine with electing someone who will send even more weapons to Israel. Lancero Mar 2024 #20
Who thought this was a good decision? Deuxcents Mar 2024 #2
Biden? sarisataka Mar 2024 #4
Ultimately the buck stops at the Resolute desk. Autumn Mar 2024 #7
MIc must be federal just like the gun industry malaise Mar 2024 #5
Maybe because holding up arms deliveries to Ukraine has not been working out Beastly Boy Mar 2024 #9
There is a big ass difference in supporting the Ukraine in their fight against OUR enemy Russia who is invading THEIR Autumn Mar 2024 #14
So you don't believe we should support Israel defending itself AZSkiffyGeek Mar 2024 #15
They have gone way beyond defending their country. Netanyahu kept the people who attacked them in power Autumn Mar 2024 #16
There would have been if Israel weren't fighting our enemies Beastly Boy Mar 2024 #17
Here you go. Do keep in mind that Hamas has been Netanyahoos ally. Autumn Mar 2024 #18
Where do I go? Beastly Boy Mar 2024 #19
Does point out what is going on there. We all know the US supplies arm to Israel. Autumn Mar 2024 #21
Doesn't point out anything about US quietly approving and delivering more than 100 military sales to Israel, does it? Beastly Boy Mar 2024 #22
It does point out what the Palestinians are being put through by Israeli forces. It's in the thread because I Autumn Mar 2024 #23
My complaint is that you are deflecting. Beastly Boy Mar 2024 #25
deleted Aussie105 Mar 2024 #27
Sure you do. Autumn Mar 2024 #29
The women and children that are starving are not fucking Hamas! No shit! Beastly Boy Mar 2024 #31
STOP this insanity Sky Jewels Mar 2024 #10
The US supports countries who fight terrorists ripcord Mar 2024 #24
Bowing out of this thread. Aussie105 Mar 2024 #26
Those weapons should have all gone to Ukraine. Crunchy Frog Mar 2024 #28
DURec leftstreet Mar 2024 #30

Autumn

(48,962 posts)
1. This has to stop. This can very well put that orange fuck back in the white house. Who will shoulder the blame?
Wed Mar 6, 2024, 01:20 PM
Mar 2024

Autumn

(48,962 posts)
6. If it happens then you should ask yourself why they they didn't vote for Biden.
Wed Mar 6, 2024, 02:20 PM
Mar 2024

The answer will be staring every one right in the face. People who have skin in the game will not always set their values and morals aside. Trump hates them and will let Netanyahoo do whatever he wants to their families and loved ones but when they see the US supporting the genocide of their people they don't see a difference. But far easier to blame the citizen using their vote than the actions of the politicians who ignore the suffering.

Autumn

(48,962 posts)
11. Simple thinking. The are not fine with their country giving weapons to a nation slaughtering their people.
Wed Mar 6, 2024, 03:31 PM
Mar 2024

AZSkiffyGeek

(12,744 posts)
12. But they are okay with electing someone who will deport them
Wed Mar 6, 2024, 03:36 PM
Mar 2024

The choice is binary and anyone who doesn’t understand that is a fool at best and a MAGAT at worst. But keep on defending those who would help TFG win. Not like we haven’t seen this “logic” before.

Autumn

(48,962 posts)
13. Get deported or slaughter their loved ones. Not much of a choice there. Not sure I could make that choice.
Wed Mar 6, 2024, 03:40 PM
Mar 2024

FYI. Not all of the Muslims who say they can't support the President supporting Israel are immigrants.

Lancero

(3,276 posts)
20. And rather ironically, they're fine with electing someone who will send even more weapons to Israel.
Wed Mar 6, 2024, 04:30 PM
Mar 2024

Either the weapons aren't the real issue or these voters are - put in the kindest words possible - fucking dumbasses.

 

Beastly Boy

(13,283 posts)
9. Maybe because holding up arms deliveries to Ukraine has not been working out
Wed Mar 6, 2024, 03:09 PM
Mar 2024

too well for the US and its allies?

Autumn

(48,962 posts)
14. There is a big ass difference in supporting the Ukraine in their fight against OUR enemy Russia who is invading THEIR
Wed Mar 6, 2024, 03:42 PM
Mar 2024

country and supporting the genocide happening in Gaza.

Autumn

(48,962 posts)
16. They have gone way beyond defending their country. Netanyahu kept the people who attacked them in power
Wed Mar 6, 2024, 03:50 PM
Mar 2024

because they were his ally in making sure a two state solution, what every US president has wanted to keep a lasting peace there , would never fucking happen.

There's your Gotcha.

 

Beastly Boy

(13,283 posts)
17. There would have been if Israel weren't fighting our enemies
Wed Mar 6, 2024, 04:10 PM
Mar 2024

like Hamas, Hezbollah, ISIS, Iran, and Syria,

AND

if there were any genocide to support in Gaza.

As things stand today, neither one of your concerns is a big ass (or a small ass for that matter) consideration for not supplying arms to either Ukraine or Israel. Let's just call it a no ass difference.

And, as we have seen in the case of Ukraine, inaction in Congress to supply Ukraine on a timely basis is not working out too well for the US or its allies.

 

Beastly Boy

(13,283 posts)
19. Where do I go?
Wed Mar 6, 2024, 04:28 PM
Mar 2024

If I wanted to watch random videos featuring authors of classic Palestinian literature, I could have done it without your assistance (but I appreciate the effort regardless). This particular one does not go into US supplying arms to its allies or reasons why not doing so is a bad idea.

And, forgetting for a moment that Israel is not Netanyahu, what exactly does his alliance with Hamas entail? Isn't he the one, based on your associating him with Israel, kicking the shit out of Hamas? Some ally he is!

Autumn

(48,962 posts)
21. Does point out what is going on there. We all know the US supplies arm to Israel.
Wed Mar 6, 2024, 04:39 PM
Mar 2024

Netanyayhoo is kicking the shit out of Hamas? More like kicking the shit out of the innocent civilians and children in Gaza while Hamas leaders kick back in Qatar.

 

Beastly Boy

(13,283 posts)
22. Doesn't point out anything about US quietly approving and delivering more than 100 military sales to Israel, does it?
Wed Mar 6, 2024, 07:51 PM
Mar 2024

Not even a hint of it in the entire clip. So what is it doing in a thread about US quietly approving and delivering more than 100 military sales to Israel?

And what do you call over 10,000 dead terrorists? An amicable alliance?

Autumn

(48,962 posts)
23. It does point out what the Palestinians are being put through by Israeli forces. It's in the thread because I
Wed Mar 6, 2024, 08:04 PM
Mar 2024

fucking posted it. That's your complaint? What do you call starving and murdered children and women? Terrorists? But of course.

 

Beastly Boy

(13,283 posts)
25. My complaint is that you are deflecting.
Wed Mar 6, 2024, 09:15 PM
Mar 2024

I called terrorists terrorists. Makes me wonder why you are referring to them as starving and murdered children and women.

How hard can it be to make a fucking obvious distinction between the two?

Autumn

(48,962 posts)
29. Sure you do.
Thu Mar 7, 2024, 11:00 AM
Mar 2024

Not. They are being murdered. Those women and children that are starving are not fucking Hamas. And the dead ones are fucking dead.

Since you can obviously tell the difference between innocent women, children and Hamas perhaps offer your services.

 

Beastly Boy

(13,283 posts)
31. The women and children that are starving are not fucking Hamas! No shit!
Thu Mar 7, 2024, 11:02 PM
Mar 2024

This is what I've been telling you, over and over again, apparently to no effect.

Now you tell me: why is it that you bring up not fucking Hamas every time you respond to posts that talk about fucking Hamas, or other enemies of America?

Do you usually respond to a subject in a post with a random not subject of that post? That kind of defeats the purpose of a response, no?

Aussie105

(7,920 posts)
26. Bowing out of this thread.
Wed Mar 6, 2024, 09:34 PM
Mar 2024

I've learnt that once a thread gets this heated, I need to leave.

I just hope Joe has some good advisors to help him through this crisis.




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