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Ivan the Young died on this day in 1490, his physician was executed soon after (Original Post) BootinUp Mar 2024 OP
Was his physician an ancestor of Ronny Jackson? TwilightZone Mar 2024 #1
Jackson is scum. Thats all I got, lol. BootinUp Mar 2024 #2
I was hoping the pattern would continue. TwilightZone Mar 2024 #6
He died from gout? I didn't know that was possible. rsdsharp Mar 2024 #3
hmmm I don know. BootinUp Mar 2024 #4
It can still kill people. TwilightZone Mar 2024 #7
It doesn't say gout kills people. It says people with gout have an increased risk of death. rsdsharp Mar 2024 #8
Semantics TwilightZone Mar 2024 #9
Lifetime warrantee. keithbvadu2 Mar 2024 #5

TwilightZone

(28,836 posts)
6. I was hoping the pattern would continue.
Thu Mar 7, 2024, 12:39 AM
Mar 2024

You know...doctor says he can cure patient. Patient dies. Doctor dies.

Am I bad for saying that? lol

rsdsharp

(12,028 posts)
8. It doesn't say gout kills people. It says people with gout have an increased risk of death.
Thu Mar 7, 2024, 01:00 AM
Mar 2024

Gout goes along with commodities such as heart disease and hypertension.

TwilightZone

(28,836 posts)
9. Semantics
Thu Mar 7, 2024, 10:57 AM
Mar 2024

It's a contributing factor in the complications that lead to death. In some studies, the chances of those complications are increased by 80%, so there's clearly a link. If it causes liver failure and one dies from it, it was a factor in that death.

If COVID weakens one's immune system and they get pneumonia and die, did COVID lead to the death?

If cancer causes liver failure which results in death, did cancer lead to the death?

Context matters, and my point stands. Gout is directly linked to issues that kill people prematurely. If those people wouldn't otherwise have developed those complications and died, gout led to their deaths.

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