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Timothy Egan worked for The Times for 18 years as Pacific Northwest correspondent and a national enterprise reporter. In 2001, he was part of the Pulitzer Prize-winning team that wrote the series How Race Is Lived in America. He is the author of several books, including The Worst Hard Time, a history of the Dust Bowl, for which he won the National Book Award, and most recently, The Big Burn: Teddy Roosevelt and the Fire That Saved America.
http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/22/give-pot-a-chance/#more-136666
But there remains the big question of how President Obama will handle the cannabis spring. So far, he and Attorney General Eric Holder have been silent. I take that as a good sign, and certainly a departure from the hard-line position they took when California voters were considering legalization a few years ago. But if they need additional nudging, here are three reasons to let reason stand:
(and here's the third one)
orpupilofnature57
(15,472 posts)Upton
(9,709 posts)when the amount of pot I have now will suddenly be legal..sort of a weird feeling not knowing what's going to happen. I still fully expect the feds to step in though..
I'm glad to see so many people speaking out in mainstream publications and on tv to call for the federal govt. to honor this change in two states and possibly 2 more once legislative sessons convene in other states.
SomethingFishy
(4,876 posts)They are in a wet paper towel now, germinating. By the 6th I will be able to plant them.. LEGALLY!!
MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)Last edited Tue Nov 27, 2012, 07:26 PM - Edit history (4)
I'm not going to go into why I haven't. Let's just say it's my personal choice and leave it with that.
But it's obvious that the politics behind it in this country touches on both the issues of race and poverty, as well as a protection racket for so-called legal purveyors of both mind altering substances and Big Pharma.
We have major problems with this country when it comes to the issues of poverty, the lop-sided wealth distribution curve, the prison industrial complex, our crumbling infrastructure, corporate malfeasance, corporate control of our political system and the use of propaganda to skew our national priorities in the wrong direction.
If I could distill America's main problem down to a single definition, I would choose the fact that our national priorities are wrong and a lack of viable democratic action is the cause.
We equate profit with freedom and security. Our marijuana policies are an example of this
In that those entities that I mentioned above view pot as an existential threat to their ability to peddle their poisons, as pot can be cultivated and consumed without the need for a large corporate provider which has patented products and the willingness of our legal system to protect their monopoly.
We also have drug policies as a system of control over the poor and minorities in this country, as well as an incentive to expand and militarize our police forces, use a tool to restrict personal freedom, maintain a massive, for profit, prison industry as well as legitimize a national system of propaganda production.
It seems that the best way to fight all of this is our vote. Rather than establishing and maintaining the poor priorities of propaganda, militarization, fear, racism, classism, violence and commercial profit that comes with prohibition, we have the chance, through democratic means, to alter our national priorities for the better.
Instead of the corporations, it's up to the people. And in spite of my own personal predilections toward pot, I defer to a democratic process to determine its availability in our society.
Democracy will create better priorities in the long run.
RainDog
(28,784 posts)And, honestly, I feel like Obama's election and re-election was the signal of a sea change in America.
Even tho we'd like to see immediate changes, sometimes they evolve, but we seem to have reached a point at which old ways of exercising power need to change. We always seem to go through these pendulums of change for the better followed by backlash - drug laws are part of this as much as Jim Crow laws were in the past.
But the move is toward a saner society, I hope. That's what I saw with the last election.
Not that we'll ever be without racists and extreme wingers. But they are not the future.
pipoman
(16,038 posts)largely hinges on this issue. Yes, he will always be our first black President. He will also likely continue the unsustainable trade policy of his predecessors, a revamping of which could improve his legacy dramatically, not gonna happen..he'll allow the jobs to continue to drain.
If he embraces a policy of legalization of pot at the federal level, leaving the legalization at the state level to the states, much like liquor laws are currently allowed, it will be a game changer. If, for instance, he introduced a policy of imposing a federal tax on pot with the proceeds going to mental health and addiction services for anyone who wants or needs them, I believe we would see near immediate reductions in crime and in metal health related offenses. The numbers of wackos shooting up the 7-11 would be reduced...how many times, in the wake of a mass shooting do we have to hear friends and family state after the fact that they tried to get mental health services but could not until the person committed a crime?
Yep, this is a great opportunity to embrace, or to leave for the next president. Which ever party chooses to embrace this issue will go down in history as a great visionary. imho..
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)Obama could and should effectively decriminalize pot at the federal level, leaving it up to the individual states, by directing the justice department and the dea to cease activities against state-legal marijuana transactions.
SomethingFishy
(4,876 posts)and it will get to the point where Congress can act on a proven method. Sometimes you gotta drag them kicking and screaming into the 21st century...
RainDog
(28,784 posts)you can look back at so many of the most important changes for the better in this nation - they didn't start with Congress, Congress had to catch up and then look around to make sure it won't cost them too much to do the right thing.
CO and WA seem to be doing a great job taking this to Federal authorities to talk about how to handle it. The Govs don't want to implement the law only to have the Feds turn around and trash people's lives or waste the money the states will spend putting the laws into effect.
RainDog
(28,784 posts)of the Controlled Substances Act.
Doing this would allow other nations and the U.S. to regulate it like alcohol without having to go through some tedious Congressional b.s. sessions.
We and the rest of the world already have enough evidence to indicate cannabis does not belong as a Schedule I substance - and the reality is that it's no different than nutmeg, as far as its psychotropic possibilities vs. its capacity for harm.
The Wizard
(12,545 posts)and we use 25% of the world's energy. This is American exceptionalism (Exceptionalism is not a real word, rather one created by the propagandist Frank Luntz.) in its starkest manifestation. American exceptionalism sounds too much like master race, and we know how that worked out.
The hippies were right.
MADem
(135,425 posts)While this article includes kids "above the norm" in the definition, the ones utilizing "exceptional" programs are far more likely to be "below the norm."
http://www.education.com/reference/article/who-exceptional-children/
Luntz should re-think his verbiage.
Jasana
(490 posts)I might even try it. In Mass we legalized it for medicinal usage and I have read in places that it can help with MS. We shall see. I want to talk it over with my physical therapist first.
K&R
RainDog
(28,784 posts)There are a lot of studies that have shown its value for people with MS and I personally know one woman who has used it regularly for this purpose.
Cannabis is also useful for epilepsy and CP - iow, for a variety of illnesses or conditions in which spasticity is a problem.
YouTube has videos of several people who demonstrate the changes they experience. Check them out.
Oh and also check out the Drug Policy Forum here. There are links to videos and lots of studies that talk about various medical benefits - videos from doctors at conferences who have dealt with many patients.
loudsue
(14,087 posts)and we could also offer some more dental & vision benefits to the health care bill. Hell. We could do lots of stuff with that 30 billion, besides ruining people's lives to line the pockets of privatized prison CEOs.
Matariki
(18,775 posts)This makes me weep.
RainDog
(28,784 posts)And of the approximately 800,000 arrests for cannabis last year, the overwhelming majority were for simple possession.
...of something less harmful than coffee.