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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNY Times: Why Haley Voters Should Support Biden
Is Biden correct? Is there an argument that could persuade a meaningful number of Haley conservatives to vote for Biden? In ordinary times the answer would be no. It still may be no. Negative polarization is the dominant fact of American political life. Asking a person to change political teams is like asking him or her to disrupt friendships and family relationships, to move from the beloved us to the hated them. Theyre going to do it only as a last resort, when they truly understand and feel the same way about the Republican Party that Ronald Reagan felt when he departed the Democratic Party: He didnt leave the party. The party left him.
Now, however, its the G.O.P. that is sprinting away from Reagan and from Haley Republicans as fast as MAGA can carry it. The right is not just mad at Republican dissenters for defying Trump; it has such profound policy disagreements with Reagan and Haley Republicans that its hard to imagine the two factions coexisting for much longer. Given the power imbalance in a Trump G.O.P., that means that for the foreseeable future traditional conservatives will face a choice: conform or leave.
Its likely that most people will conform. But they ought to leave. If a political party is a shared enterprise for advancing policies and ideas with the hope of achieving concrete outcomes, then there are key ways in which a second Biden term would be a better fit for Reagan Republicans than Round 2 of Trump.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/10/opinion/haley-voters-support-biden.html
bucolic_frolic
(55,140 posts)Trump is using the word "camp". Pay attention. He's telling you what's going to happen if he grabs power.
stopdiggin
(15,463 posts)the kind of 'camp' referenced here is quite a different animal ...
stopdiggin
(15,463 posts)I would agree that every effort should be made to lure (any) persuadable votes. Reagan Republicans (whom the party has 'left' as described) are a good target. Having said that - I think it needs pointing out that Nikki Haley is profoundly more radical in her positions and beliefs than Ronald Reagan - and that too is a story of the Republican party. Point two - I think it is a mistake to accord a 'belief in democracy' - to individuals and groups that refuse to honor the results of elections. And I don't think Democrats can find coalition and/or common ground - with people that only believe in democracy part time.
spanone
(141,610 posts)TwilightZone
(28,836 posts)She wants to be the candidate in 2028. Endorsing Biden would sabotage that, and probably her political career on the right.
spanone
(141,610 posts)I wasn't clear.
TwilightZone
(28,836 posts)I should have realized that. Apologies. She may not endorse him, but everyone seems to break down in the end.