Even if tsf is defeated at the polls I don't think we will be free of him.

[Stinky The Clown]

He has a cult that is ready to do anything he says. They are armed. They can't be reasoned with. They are in some ways an army.

When he loses in November, I fear events not unlike J6. I fear random lone wolf acts of defiance. This could be against blue state government institutions. It could as easily - easier? - be against things like a car with a bumper sticker someone takes to be liberal or Democratic.

People like his supporters have been known and active in other countries. Are bombers or even suicide bombers in other cultures very much different from his more extreme cultists?

I'm certain this has been thought of by those charged with keeping the country safe.

Or am I off base?

[Walleye]

1. We won't be free of him until he dies, we certainly can't expect the GOP to drop him

This is why he should never be on the ballot. We know he won’t accept the results if he loses.

[intrepidity]

7. I do hope his departure ends that madness

He is such an odd mix of factors that is--hopefully!--not easily duplicated, even by another charlatan. I don't see how he could hand-off the whole following to anyone; although it may appear that way at first, but I doubt it would have longevity, at least in it's current form.

Which of course raises the question: what *does* happen to his followers when he's gone?

[Ocelot II]

10. Maybe not even then. It's a cult, and even if they don't claim he will be resurrected like Jesus,

at least they would want to build a shrine and pickle his corpse for display like the Russians did with Lenin. Crazy shit will happen even after he's dead.

[hlthe2b]

11. Yup... He will devote whatever time he has left to undermining this country...

A bit like the fictional "cure" for a vampire... They don't change. They don't "mellow." They don't retire.

[Lovie777]

2. I'll cross that bridge....................

keep shithole and his cult from USA 3 branches and majority of USA public.

[Irish_Dem]

3. He has Congress, the Supreme Court and the media.

And his cult.

[AkFemDem]

4. Every day I wake up and log online and look to see...

If his mortal coil has been shrugged and the national nightmare is over yet. I wonder a lot what will happen when that day comes, will they disperse and be sane again... or will they carry on in the exact same manner?

[intrepidity]

9. Like Cheney, he's going to be around awhile

There's something very unnatural about how long evil people can live.

[lapfog_1]

26. even if he keels over tomorrow from a cheese induced heart attack

someone will attempt to claim the Trump mantle.

Don Jr, DeSantis, Nikki, MTG, possibly even Kari Lake...

Immediately there will be conspiracy theories that the deep state did him in... and I would expect Meal Team 6 will be looking for targets to shoot. Could get bad.

Some will expect JFK, Jr to arise and lead them. or Elvis.

Hopefully it all starts to go away in a year or so.

OTOH, some cults carry on long past the delusional founders demise... mostly religious cults. This one is political with religious undertones, so I don't know.

[Elessar Zappa]

5. There could be some random terrorist attacks.

But as far as widespread action, no, I’m not afraid of that happening. But terrorist attacks are bad enough.

[Think. Again.]

6. Yeah, no matter which way the election goes...

...they're gonna be violent.

At this point, I'm ready to fight fire with fire.

[Liberal In Texas]

8. We're going to get more "stolen election" until we're even more sick of it. And he'll announce he's running for '28.

Plus when he loses, I wouldn't be surprised if some of the magast do some terrorist attacks.

[Mad_Machine76]

12. At least

He won't have access to the "powers" of the Presidency this time around. He and his followers can still do some damage but it's not like he can walk in and illegally occupy the WH. I think that, if anything, his followers will probably become demoralized and Trump will become less relevant and I can't see him being nominated AGAIN in 2028 unless nothing is left of the Republican Party other than the Trump cultists. With all of the GOPers leaving Congress, it seems less likely too that he will have the influence there that he has wielded so far. It took awhile for people to tire of Sarah Palin too but it eventually happened.

[Cha]

13. Of course not... TSF will Never go away until

he's 6 ft under.

We all die so it will happen.

[GoodRaisin]

14. When he loses this time I think he will finally go away.

Hopefully to incarceration.

There will be more of the election fraud talk, sure, and some limited skirmishes will initially appear from his morons, then die off. But my opinion is you can stick a fork in him after he loses this time. As far as trying another J6 event his morons will probably look at what happened to the first group of morons and opt out this go around, so we probably won’t see anything nearly like that again.

[unblock]

15. We certainly won't be free of the right-wing media that created him. There will be another.

[Caliman73]

16. He will be greatly diminished, but you are right, we won't be free/rid of him.

Trump and his ilk serve a purpose for the Conservative movement. On one hand, they push Conservative bullshit into the media and into the back of the mind of people who don't pay attention. On the other hand, Trump serves as a bit of a foil to Conservatives. Him being such a complete ass, allows Conservatives, who have pretty much the same policy goals, to seem reasonable in comparison.

As long as the Conservative power brokers see any benefit to continue pushing people like Trump into positions of power, we will not be rid of him or people like him. The real fear is if they ever get someone with similar character attributes of Trump but with actual intelligence and not just a "conman's" mentality. Trump is way in over his head in terms of actually being a "strongman" but someone with more intelligence, like say Richard Nixon's skill set with all the right wing media bubble and mainstream media's complacence, that would be serious trouble.

One thing that we need to learn from this whole bullshit is that we CANNOT rely on our institutions to save us. Institutions are made up of PEOPLE. They are not some untouchable entity that always follows the laws or comes through for us. We need to wake up and understand that we get the government that we choose, OR that we allow to take power. There is A LOT of money behind Conservatism, but actually few people. While Money is formidable and can get people to do a lot of things, people power will usually prevail if it is actually brought to bear. That means that we need to get a lot more people involved in politics and understanding what Conservatives and further right wing people want for the United States.

[localroger]

17. I think Trumpco will all fall apart

His aura of invincibility will be shattered. The J6 rebels will still be in jail. TFG himself will be facing hundreds of millions in court judgements. The stink of failure and losing will be overpowering on him. Nobody will actually risk martyrdom for him because no would-be martyrs will exist to be held up as examples of how they will be treated well and idolized if their mission goes right. His support will bleed off from the edges until even the hardcore center wonders if they are really in the winner's corner. TFG will rail and mug and cry and pout and look increasingly juvenile and foolish as everything he does clearly becomes less and less effective. Like Father Coughlin before him his movement will dissolve back into the elements from which it was forged, a squabbling mess of discontents who can't agree on who needs to be screwed most today.

[PufPuf23]

18. When Trump is gone, those that want a non-egalitarian USA will find

a new personality and issues to ride.

My solution to just about everything wrong in the World is a managed and kind reduction of human population. Nature and the evil among us will reduce human population brutally otherwise.

[PortTack]

19. Tsf called for his cult to show up at his indictments. No one showed in NY and a handful of stragglers in FL

His home turf! If one can’t rally the crazies in batshit crazy FL…highly doubt there will be violence following his election loss.

As far as being around, what’s he gonna do? Call for primaries against certain gqp ppl? He’s going to be more broke than he already is, continuously scrambling to obtain enough money to pay legal bills and court judgements. He’ll be around, but more an annoyance than anything.

[LiberalFighter]

20. Take Maralago away from him.

By the way his tax returns need to be reviewed to make sure he doesn't take tax deductions for property taxes on it.

[lindysalsagal]

21. He's running the house and the GQP right now. So, yeah-He's holding lots of political

power, for sure.

[TSExile]

22. Sometimes I wonder...

Yes, I know he is mortal and has to pass on sometime. I know that intellectually, but I actually wonder if he is actually a demon from the underworld and is just too mean to die. I don't think he has a soul. Even a millimeter of all the horrible things he's done would have finished off anyone else in the public eye. I am despairing that we will ever be rid of him - and his enablers. 💔

[Demsrule86]

25. He is a f'ing crook...not a demon, His world is about to come crashing down.

[democratsruletheday]

23. NO better source than Stinky the Clown...

enough with the concern trolling. We outnumber them and have guns too...not scared or intimidated one bit. EFF them

[Stinky The Clown]

30. Concern troll?

[Demsrule86]

24. If the GOP loses badly, it is over for him IMHO. Also, I think he will be found guilty in the end too.

[Kennah]

27. If he loses in 2024, and isn't dead or in prison in 2028, he'll run again

[peggysue2]

28. I agree

Even without Trump, it will take several cycles to burn out the MAGA cult. It is a self-perpetuating movement borne of grievance, victimhood and resentment.

The battle will continue beyond Donald Trump until the GOP, sick of losing, reconstitutes itself into something sane and pro-American.

[Phoenix61]

29. He has dementia and has hit that critical point where

the signs are obvious to anyone who has ever seen it unravel a mind. Those little episodes will become more and more frequent and last longer and longer. He’ll start cancelling events and his staff will blame whatever venue it was booked at.

[no_hypocrisy]

31. It depends. (No pun intended.)

My theory is that Trump still holds sway over Republicans in the House and the Senate b/c of his possible return to the WH. They either want a piece of the action (power and authority) or they're outright afraid of him. If the latter, the fear is that he'll find a MAGA candidate to primary them and get a bunch of voters to remove them -- or he has "the goods" on them (dossiers).

My hope is that if/when Trump loses in the GE this year, it may eventually be over. If there is no chance of Trump holding power again, he loses a lot of leverage. What's he going to do to them? Ban them from golfing with him? Cancel their membership at Bedminster, Mar-A-Lago?

The Mob Boss could be just a specter in 12 months.

[Buckeyeblue]

32. I think when Biden beats him and down ballot Republicans get beat

And he and his family run the RNC into the ground, I think you'll see Republicans start to pull away from him. He'll continue to have his followers but I think he'll slowly start to fade away.

[ms liberty]

33. I think we will be free of them if we crush the entire GOP ticket. 1932, baby.

And that's what I want. America needs to soundly and forcefully reject all the GOP candidates if we ever want to be rid of the Trumpers.
Just my opinion.

[Kid Berwyn]

34. Post-conviction, his MAGA majority will drop him like he's hot.

Then they'll act like they never supported him.



"Un-Trimp Your MAGA."

[republianmushroom]

35. Your correct, we won't.

[TheKentuckian]

36. Same as always, my bet is on the double down.

I see no support for any other position.

They've done nothing else for generations now.

There is no one with enough juice to direct the cult otherwise and very few with any such real desire anyway.

From a policy aim stand point you can't squeeze the finest frog's hair between Chump and Cheney and if you do Shittler somehow may be better.

Loyalty to the Constitution, some might say.

I say they are full of it, understanding that Shittler does not share power, cannot be trusted, is lazy as fuck, has no filter, vengeful, petty, stupid, and is mercurial as can be doesn't mean supporting democracy it just means a few of the authoritarian crooks aren't weapons grade stupid and little else.