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So...Do you know what happened after the Democratic Party got rid of George McGovern?..............
McGovern 1972 .............Jimmy Carter...a few years later.......
liberal N proud
(60,362 posts)Prison or a coffin
edhopper
(33,747 posts)How was a great man like McGovern like Trump?
Stuart G
(38,480 posts)If some pukes expect Trump to win........then Trump is similar to the feelings about Jimmy Carter...(in 1980)......
Yes, Carter was a sitting President of the United States of America...and Carter was expected to win...........
NOT RONALD REGAN............
edhopper
(33,747 posts)And it took a traitorous act by Reagan and Bush to beat Carter.
McGovern lost because Nixon cheated.
Still don't understand your analogy.
TwilightZone
(25,556 posts)He became president when Nixon resigned in 1974. He lost to Carter in 1976.
TexasDem69
(1,937 posts)Its not quite a cult but very cult-like. And when he dies, I imagine there will be a reckoning internally.
B.See
(1,438 posts)Ocelot II
(116,155 posts)He will drag it down with him, and nothing like a coherent, normal political party will remain when he is defeated again or goes to prison or dies, whichever comes first. Something else will have to crawl out of whatever slagheap is left, but it won't be the GOP as it was.
Stuart G
(38,480 posts)Donald Trump has proven himself to be a..........." liar and a con man."
Joe Biden is a good guy, honest, and an excellent President of the United States...(the economy is going strong, and Joe is
honest and caring person. (the exact opposite of Donald Trump)..........THAT IS IT, AND THAT IS ALL!!.........
(and when Trump is defeated by Biden, the PUKES WILL GET RID OF HIM....totally and completely_)
Biden won't win by a little, he will win by a whole lot, ...and you heard it here in March ....(7 months ahead of November)
Ocelot II
(116,155 posts)It's one of the things they like about him. They like that he's crude and mean and hates the same people they do, and gives them permission to be as awful as he is. His many character flaws do not put off his voters in the least. Kindness is evidence of weakness; the fact that Biden is a decent, caring person is proof to them that he isn't strong and powerful enough and not a tough guy like Trump. Don't kid yourself; Trump's awfulness isn't a problem for the hard-core GOP.
Stuart G
(38,480 posts)(a person who has proven to most of us, that he is a ........A LIAR AND A CON MAN. )
TwilightZone
(25,556 posts)And everyone knew it in 2016. Tens of millions just didn't care. Most of them still don't.
Straw Man
(6,632 posts)I don't buy that "everyone knew it" in 2016. The rubes thought he was a successful businessman. Once he got into office, he tickled their bigot-bones so well that they allowed themselves to be convinced -- and remain so to this day -- that everything negative said about him is a lie conjured up by the "deep state," the "weaponized justice system," and the "liberal media."
If they knew he was as con man, they wouldn't have been conned. That's my take.
Stuart G
(38,480 posts)Why now? Trump has proven "the Liar and Con Man" issue to many more now.
When families discuss this.....some will not vote for Trump as a payback to their children and women in the family.
As a payback to some children who are adults and will argue totally .and as a result....'SOME WILL NOT VOTE AT ALL"
WHY? BECAUSE THE CHILDREN KNOW MORE ABOUT ELECTIONS THEN THE PARENTS...AND THE CHILDREN
WILL CONVINCE THEIR PARENTS THAT TRUMP WILL DESTROY THE UNITED STATES...THAT IS WHY!........
AND SOME PARENTS WILL ...NOT VOTE FOR TRUMP.
AND I believe the above three paragraphs will decide next November's election.
Mr.Bill
(24,430 posts)That did not know Trump was a liar and a con man. (thanks, news media) They truly believed he was a wildly successful businessman and one of the richest people in the world. I'm 70 years old and I don't remember a time in my life when I didn't hear people saying we should run the country like a business or we need a businessman to run the country. The best thing Trump did was show the country that was a very bad idea.
Ocelot II
(116,155 posts)There are more of us than there are of them, but we all have to vote.
tulipsandroses
(5,155 posts)Those 74 million people knew exactly who they were voting for.
PortTack
(32,861 posts)Dems are over performing up and down the ballot
thats a fact. To think that suddenly tfg is going reverse his big loss in 20 is folly.
His primary totals are abysmal
His rally attendance shrinks
There are just too many powerful organizations and ppl, to say nothing of voters that are seriously terrified of this guy coming anywhere close to the WH
The youth vote
The gqp would be smart to dump this guy in his golden toilet come November..guess well see
0rganism
(24,021 posts)His power grab at the RNC prevents such happenings. We just saw complete and total corruption of a major political party. Granted it's been going that way for a while but now it's done. Eventually, TSF will leave politics, one way or another, but his stench will remain long after.
Now the entire Republican party has to be dismantled, top to bottom, soup to nuts. It can no longer function as a participant in a democracy. It could function okay in some other forms of government, but not in any real kind of democracy. Here it is only poison, and it has to go. ASAP. All of it. Before it spreads the disease further.
Stuart G
(38,480 posts)And Republicans will definitely get rid of Trump. ......and FOREVER....(BECAUSE IT WILL BE SUCH A LOSS )
????? YES, THIS IS WHAT I BELIEVE....totally and completely........
0rganism
(24,021 posts)How exactly is the Republican party going to "get rid of" TSF when his toadies rule the RNC and are already busy chasing away anyone who won't bend the knee?
More likely -- TSF and his cronies may well drain dry and bankrupt the Republican party before he goes away.
Mr.Bill
(24,430 posts)RainCaster
(10,992 posts)He will take every last dollar for himself. He will have all records shredded, experts fired & vendors stiffed. All the down ballot candidates will starve for cash and may have little desire to remain in the party.
brooklynite
(95,238 posts)He remained in the Senate until 1980 and ran for President again in 1984.
DemocraticPatriot
(4,570 posts)and in less than 2 years after the 1972 election, most voters realized they'd made a big mistake in voting for the criminal Nixon.
Furthermore, many of the rules of our current presidential nomination process, were reforms championed by Senator George McGovern after the 1968 election, which still shape our nomination process today.
Your comparison of Senator McGovern with Trump, I find to be extremely offensive, as well as non-sensical. WTF ???
Grins
(7,301 posts)Like France after the execution of Louie XVI. Unending political violence and vengeance to those who caused it all. The Party will consume itself. And it will go on for a long time.
Time enough, if we (Ds) are lucky, to make huge institutional changes and rebuild what they destroyed.
Kennah
(14,400 posts)McGovern and Carter weren't far apart, and they were both normal. Ford was normal. Hell, even Nixon was normal by today's GOP standards--albeit too left wing on economics I daresay.
I cannot do better than this to explain why McGovern lost.
Was George McGovern doomed to lose in 1972?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2012/10/22/was-george-mcgovern-doomed-to-lose-in-1972/
Kennah
(14,400 posts)The Whigs arguably collapsed because they were divided over slavery.
The GOOP is divided over whether they want to be a cult.
Ocelot II
(116,155 posts)Both - unfortunately - lost elections but they remained respected Democrats. McGovern stayed in the Senate. You make it sound like they were purged, and they were not, and it's a bit offensive to even suggest such a thing.
Diraven
(570 posts)It's the logical next step in their cult.
NBachers
(17,226 posts)He's already solidifying his vise-grip on the Party. GOP is *rump until *rump croaks or becomes too incapacitated to function. Even then, there'll be an inner circle who close ranks around him and operate their own Maggot shadow government, carrying on in his image.
After *rump's out of the picture, his Maggot hoard will become loose bands of unaffiliated terrorists and destroyers; seeking revenge against whomever for whatever.
I voted for both McGovern and Carter, and I don't welcome whatever derogatory comparison or association you're trying to make about them.
republianmushroom
(14,109 posts)Going to be fun to watch.
Mysterian
(4,618 posts)It's what weak-minded fascists always do. He will probably be much more dangerous than clownish Trump.
Torchlight
(3,528 posts)As in 1948, there's an extremist movement within the party, and the party's responsibility is to kick it to the curb as the Democratic party did in '48 (setting up the infamous, "you can't fire me, I quit" monologue of future GOP statesman, Strom Thurmond), or embrace this current extremism, rage, and bottled absurdity as their new normal.
It's a flip of the coin to me which side ultimately prevails, but I think either way, the GOP will finally have to admit that the face it wears is its own.
ok_cpu
(2,064 posts)this current batch of republicans have no idea how to govern and do not possess an ideological compass.
They've gotten elected by basically shitposting "what he said" at the cult leader's followers for the last decade or so.
Hopefully once the spell of the cult is broken, people will realize how little the folks they are voting for represent their interests.
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