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kentuck

(111,241 posts)
Tue Mar 12, 2024, 09:44 AM Mar 2024

The Justice System has failed America.

Through hyper-partisanship and continuous corruption, they lost their ability, or desire, to interpret the law according to our Constitution.

They chose Party over Country and Constitution.

They did not just put their finger on the scales of justice, they put their entire right arm.

As we edge closer to the edge of autocracy, we are on the verge of losing our democracy.

George Washington warned us of "political Parties". Did he envision a future much like what we are now experiencing?

Republicans stand ready to throw our democracy overboard in their glorification of power. They know that a vote for Trump is a vote for Putin.

Will history blame the Democrats for not stopping the assault?

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The Justice System has failed America. (Original Post) kentuck Mar 2024 OP
Trump and the courts have made a mockery Irish_Dem Mar 2024 #1
And we have let them. onecaliberal Mar 2024 #11
Garland is worse than a coward. Irish_Dem Mar 2024 #25
This is what is uncalled for, gab13by13 Mar 2024 #27
Exactly. Irish_Dem Mar 2024 #28
I recall rumors of illegal actions while Richard Nixon was being re-elected. raging moderate Mar 2024 #2
Like the 2016 Russian Interference ALBliberal Mar 2024 #9
Our "Equal Justice" system is anything but. yourout Mar 2024 #3
Our system has always been innocent kairos12 Mar 2024 #23
Regarding history: yes they will blame democrats Takket Mar 2024 #4
The SYSTEM is fine. The problem is bluestarone Mar 2024 #5
" A vote for Trump is a vote for Putin " KS Toronado Mar 2024 #6
Unfortunately, many in red states are just fine with that. nt Shipwack Mar 2024 #22
Fortunately, many in red states are not fine with that KS Toronado Mar 2024 #26
You're right. Shipwack Mar 2024 #29
Welcome back to the sunlight then KS Toronado Mar 2024 #34
The fix is in pfitz59 Mar 2024 #7
Blame? GOP don't get no stinkin' blame. jaxexpat Mar 2024 #8
We are close to the end of Democracy, BUT Bluethroughu Mar 2024 #10
K&R, well said. c-rational Mar 2024 #14
Thank you. We can and will win. Bluethroughu Mar 2024 #16
here are your trump party activist judges . AllaN01Bear Mar 2024 #12
the just us and rich mans courts strike again. AllaN01Bear Mar 2024 #13
They've kinda been failing for generations NYC2ATL Mar 2024 #15
America failed America. America allowed the current Justice System to be set up. live love laugh Mar 2024 #17
The Fish Stinks From The Head Down. Blue Idaho Mar 2024 #18
It was all over after Sandy Day O'C. voted to stop the counting of legal votes in Florida 2000 Botany Mar 2024 #19
Yup, this poster is correct, IMO. republianmushroom Mar 2024 #20
minority rule The Wizard Mar 2024 #21
Yes everyone knows any regular person Tree Lady Mar 2024 #24
Rich people I_UndergroundPanther Mar 2024 #30
Dems I_UndergroundPanther Mar 2024 #31
The Justice System has CONSISTENTLY failed some Americans. Caliman73 Mar 2024 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author traitorsgalore Mar 2024 #33

onecaliberal

(33,380 posts)
11. And we have let them.
Tue Mar 12, 2024, 11:30 AM
Mar 2024

Look no further than this board making excuses for an AG who sat on his hands for two years while a madman kept america's most closely held secrets. Merrick Garland is the reason we are here today. Feckless coward.

Irish_Dem

(50,308 posts)
25. Garland is worse than a coward.
Tue Mar 12, 2024, 01:04 PM
Mar 2024

He is complicit.

He refused to deal with a known traitor and thief of classified documents.

Garland knew this placed military and intelligence agencies at risk. Garland did not care one iota. He did not get warrants for the other properties.

Garland is the reason trump is running for office. A known rapist and criminal.

gab13by13

(22,022 posts)
27. This is what is uncalled for,
Tue Mar 12, 2024, 01:51 PM
Mar 2024

Once DOJ became aware from the National Archives that there were missing top secret documents, DOJ should have worked hand in hand with the Archives to get them back. Instead DOJ allowed the National Archives to go it alone until finally the Archives had to ask for help.

Same situation when the Michigan AG sent a criminal referral to DOJ asking for help in the fake elector scheme, DOJ did nothing for 1 year which prompted Dana Nessel to open the prosecution herself.

raging moderate

(4,346 posts)
2. I recall rumors of illegal actions while Richard Nixon was being re-elected.
Tue Mar 12, 2024, 09:49 AM
Mar 2024

Last edited Fri Mar 15, 2024, 04:14 PM - Edit history (1)

Various public sources downplayed these rumors. Then, not long after he'd been elected and placed in office, we found out these rumors had been true. This is an old problem in our country.

ALBliberal

(2,417 posts)
9. Like the 2016 Russian Interference
Tue Mar 12, 2024, 11:20 AM
Mar 2024

All the information was there but many dismissed it. Frustrating to be proven right after Hillary lost.

Takket

(21,892 posts)
4. Regarding history: yes they will blame democrats
Tue Mar 12, 2024, 10:16 AM
Mar 2024

Democrats are always to blame, no matter what goes wrong. Including being responsible for getting the rethugs to stop or change their own bad behavior.

KS Toronado

(17,838 posts)
26. Fortunately, many in red states are not fine with that
Tue Mar 12, 2024, 01:20 PM
Mar 2024

And are loyal to the Constitution over a party who wants a country that was invaded by Putin to lose.
I'm guessing here mind you, but I'm guessing most Veterans would not be rooting for Putin.
Isn't now PRIME TIME to spend more time and energy in Red States to turn them BLUE?

Good possibility this election we can shove republiCONs back into their FQX hole where they'll have
trouble getting out of until they learn voters are tired of being lied to.

pfitz59

(10,494 posts)
7. The fix is in
Tue Mar 12, 2024, 11:04 AM
Mar 2024

There was absolutely no legitimate reason for SCrOTUS to take up the question of immunity. The Appellate decision was perfect.

Bluethroughu

(5,254 posts)
10. We are close to the end of Democracy, BUT
Tue Mar 12, 2024, 11:30 AM
Mar 2024

WE ARE NOT THERE YET.

We are going to vote, we are going to make sure everyone we know that supports Democracy votes for ZERO REPUBLICANS, THEY ARE THE PARTY OF PUTIN.

We are going to win, and we are going to take back the House, the Senate, and the Presidency, and we are going to start packing or impeaching in the courts including the not so Supreme Court, for unethical
unConstitutional, party over country behavior.

We are going to start investigating, removing and prosecuting all the Seditious people working in our Government to wreck it.

We are going to build back better than we've already done, and the repbulicon party will be known as the fringe maniacs they are, and people will be embarrassed to say they supported the treason.

 

NYC2ATL

(56 posts)
15. They've kinda been failing for generations
Tue Mar 12, 2024, 11:49 AM
Mar 2024

You know, the whole Blacks get railroaded, whites walk thing.

Botany

(70,897 posts)
19. It was all over after Sandy Day O'C. voted to stop the counting of legal votes in Florida 2000
Tue Mar 12, 2024, 12:28 PM
Mar 2024

She knew she was screwing America and installing the loser of the Presidential Election into
the White House. And she was so sure about her rat fuckery that she had it written that bush
v Gore couldn’t be used as case law for any past or future cases in front of the Federal Court
System.

And since then the GOP, the Judicial Crisis Network, Billionaires, and our media have worked
on packing the courts, gerrymandering, and having the minority control the majority. One can
only hope that Trump and his MAGA Maggots cripple the GOP for years to come.

The Wizard

(12,603 posts)
21. minority rule
Tue Mar 12, 2024, 12:34 PM
Mar 2024

is the antithesis of democracy. The Repubics have successfully gamed the system, and the bribing class is writing the laws.

Tree Lady

(11,615 posts)
24. Yes everyone knows any regular person
Tue Mar 12, 2024, 01:01 PM
Mar 2024

would be in jail many years ago for the things Donald has done.

We have always known the rich get off, look at all the rapists in fancy colleges with rich parents. I think what makes Trump different is he keeps doing illegal stuff over and over in our face and getting away with it.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,605 posts)
30. Rich people
Tue Mar 12, 2024, 03:11 PM
Mar 2024

Need a big comeuppance and to be taxed heavily to the point they can’t afford to bribe anyone. Or simply charge them when crimes are discovered in the way trump is being charged in his rape case with an ever increasing dollar amount starting at 2 billion for crimes against the American people. That will get them to pay attention and every impropriety will add to the billions they owe.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,605 posts)
31. Dems
Tue Mar 12, 2024, 03:15 PM
Mar 2024

Have been too complacent and nice to republicans too willing to compromise and let republicans and rightward democrats like manchin hobble bills that would help the people.

Sometimes you have to say no more and push back ruthlessly even if it means the holdout suffers publicly or otherwise. There has to be a way for dems to get the right out of the party or at least neuter it. People farther left than the Dems have warned the Dems of what republicans were scheming for decades.

Bush was the test for negating an election to favor the minority and Dems didn’t insist the ballots be counted fully because republicans were having temper tantrums and causing chaos.

We need to ignore republican Ken’s and Karen’s and stick to counting all the damn ballots when the sc ruled for bush the republicans undermined the fair vote now they plan to do the same shit if they see they are going to lose .

So Biden needs to demand every ballot be counted and not let the republicans scuttle deciding the election to the right corrupted stacked partisan Supreme Court insist on following the constitution to the very end regardless of chaos and temper tantrums .

Caliman73

(11,764 posts)
32. The Justice System has CONSISTENTLY failed some Americans.
Tue Mar 12, 2024, 03:31 PM
Mar 2024

I understand what you are saying regarding the threat the Trump poses to our political and social system. You just need to understand that this "failure" of the system is not a bug in many respects. Money and power, and the color of your skin, have ALWAYS been a stronger determinant of the "justice" you receive than the strength of your case.

The problem within our approach to this problem is that we, and by we I mean Liberals, Progressives, etc... who are part of the Democratic Coalition; have always thought that process and institutions would save us and would hold back the baser impulses, but they really haven't. Certainly we have won, through hard fighting rights for many people who were historically oppressed. We have made a great deal of progress, but as I said, not because of "process" and institutions, but because we FOUGHT to put the right people in those institutions and because we PUSHED those right people to do the right thing.

Conservatives have it a lot easier. They just need to wait and rely on inertia. They can count on apathy and people being tired in order for them to move in and accomplish their agenda. They can rely on our wanting to "be civil" and not push things to avoid being "divisive" so that our inaction will cede them what they want.

History is written by the victors. Just like the history of Native Americans is largely absent from "American History" because the "pioneers" took advantage of "opportunity" and tamed the wild land, instead of "The government used its strength to push smaller Native groups off land they had been on for thousands of years and gave it to White people". So. If Trump and is ilk do win. If they do fundamentally change the United States away from the ideals set forth in the Constitution, YES Democrats will be blamed, or we will be written about as one of the threats to the new society that was valiantly forged by these new patriots, much like Native American groups have been portrayed as savages and attackers whom the "pioneers" bravely defended themselves from on their quest to establish the new noble United States.

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