Has Trump finally gone one-step too far with many Republican voters?

[kentuck]

They were OK with all the shit he has said and done up to this point.

But, when his daughter-in-law was put in charge of the RNC and announced that all the money donated to the Party would go to the re-election of Donald Trump, it finally grabbed their attention.

It's OK to install an authoritarian government and to burn down the Capitol, but don't take their money.

They cannot stomach the idea that Donald Trump will take all the money and leave them none. They do not believe his coattails are enough to keep them in power.

Could this have been the straw that broke the elephant's back?

[Irish_Dem]

1. Trump is supposed to screw over everyone else, not them.

[ProudMNDemocrat]

2. Perhaps his "shoot someone on 5th Avenue" moment has come as he will lose financial and voter support.

We can dream and pray that the quiet part has been said out loud. For all TSF is is a CON-MAN.

Because his saps of voters are tapped out, save for the billionaire donors he will likely sell positions of power to if elected. The man is for sale to the highest bidder.

[Irish_Dem]

5. Trump is still a good investment for the billionaire class.

And our enemies.

If he steals the election again, he is worth a great deal to his minders.

If he loses the election, he is still going to create chaos and division.
It is the divide and conquer strategy.

[Johnny2X2X]

3. GOP voters couldn't care less who runs the RNC

It's meaningless to them.

Donors though... It's a problem for a lot of them who want to support Republican candidates, but won't donate to trump directly.

[John Shaft]

4. It amazes me they are surprised or upset

They KNEW he was a piece of shit all along. Plenty of them will tell you even tell you this.

[NCDem47]

35. Leopard Eating Faces Party...

...are leopards eating faces.

Not all of us are fine with that or will go along with that.

They're the fools for blindly going along.

[Journeyman]

45. In this case, it's Orange Baboons Stealing Everyone's Wallet Party . . .

[NCDem47]

50. BWAHAHAHAHA

Good one.

[SoFlaBro]

6. MAGA doesn't give a fuck about that bullshit. They barely know how to find their fucking asses with both hands.

[hatrack]

7. One indication of declining fervor . . .

There's a good article on Kos about the big GoFundMe for the So Unfair Mean Judge New York Judgment, which is currently approaching 0.3% of the total owed - a total that continues to grow, thanks to the miracle of compound interest..

Anyway, the poster started tracking on February 25th:
Total Donations $1,233,056
Per Day Donations $137,066

Here are the totals for March 12th:
Total Donations $1,349,493
Per Day Donations $661

Womp Womp

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/3/13/2229232/-Checking-in-on-that-GoFundMe-Diminishing-returns

[PatSeg]

40. His schtick is getting old already

I'm surprised it has taken so long for people to wake up, but I think it will snowball now. Lately he has managed to offend almost everyone, If he missed anyone, he'll offend them soon. It is almost like he is trying to lose.

[All Mixed Up]

8. No. And I'll go one further: he hasn't gone one step too far for American voters.

It's becoming clearer by the day that a good percentage of this country is ready to hand over this country back to Trump.

[thomski64]

53. ..nah, he only has to alienate..

..about 2 or 3% of his voters, because he hasn't done anything to bring in any new constituency. If idiot Kennedy pulls a few of the anti-vaxxers, who survived Covid ,trump is just toast (except for the "horse race" media bullshit) it's over. Dead man walking...

[All Mixed Up]

55. That assumes Biden doesn't lose any of his voters either.

[gab13by13]

9. Kentuck, you are concerned with the wrong RNC co-chair,

It's the other person, Whatley who we should be concerned about. When he was in charge of the N. Carolina RNC he spent 75% of the money on lawyers and lawsuits. Having the National RNC do the same thing is fine with Magats.

I have no doubt that Joe Biden will win a fair election but I do not see this election being fair. That doesn't mean that we will lose, it means that we will have to overwhelm the vote in favor of Biden.

I would not be surprised if Russia hacked into our voting equipment.

Turn on Deadline White House every Wednesday, what Magats are doing trying to steal the election is enormous. Nicolle has seen how important it is to expose this that she is having Marc Elias on every Wednesday.

When Marc Elias is worried, we all should be worried. he is swamped with lawsuits and his filing lawsuits.

[lark]

10. I'm hoping it's that final step over the cliff that will stop them.

They will spend all their money on fighting against tsf being held accountable for his crimes and let the rest of the R's fundraise on their own. Hopefully this will drive some of them away from him when it's their campaigns that run out of $$$ and it's all his fault. They can't put this on the Dems, it's their furher (sp?) who's doing it on purpose and proving once again he's only in it for himself and some of them will split from him and not vote as he tells them. Hoping they stop, but if they don't I'm ok with free falling into the ravine too.

[gab13by13]

16. There are plenty of domestic, fascist oligarchs

to make up the difference in the loss of small donors.

[lark]

17. Yeah but do they have a billion to give to tsf?

I don't think so, but could be wrong.

[gab13by13]

20. Musk does

[Wednesdays]

22. True that, but every dollar spent on Smelvis' legal bills

is a dollar NOT spent on GOP campaigns!

[lark]

23. Hopefully Musk is too selfish.

If he figures out how to monetize tsf, we are doomed!

[Tribetime]

11. Yes I believe this will cause millions to wake up

[TheKentuckian]

60. More like hundreds. Some of the pols and many bigwig donors

The cult either doesn't care or is cheering it on.

[TheRickles]

12. I think this'll be the 800-pound camel in the room. (Sorry, couldn't resist!) :-)

[Mysterian]

13. Trump is their fascist messiah

Fascists are weak-minded fools who need a "strong man" leader to protect them from imaginary enemies.

Their messiah can do no wrong!

[Johonny]

14. The cult loves him. He's the rapist racist

That they always wanted to be. They're natural born suckers and he plans to suck them all dry while they cheer him on doing it.

[speak easy]

15. No.

Every time ppl have said so, they have been proven wrong.

[gab13by13]

19. Nice post,

you explained a lot more clearly what I was trying to say.

[speak easy]

31. And one big election defeat of MAGA will not be enough.

Nixon was back four years later after Goldwater's defeat in 1964.

[TwilightZone]

44. Yep, Trump is a symptom. He's not the disease.

The GOP would take a hit if he got hammered in November, but the underlying issues are still firmly entrenched. The death of the GOP has been predicted almost continuously for decades.

[speak easy]

48. Alf Landon got 36% of the vote in 1936

going up against FDR. The GOP is down but never out.

[jaxexpat]

18. One can only hope, my friend.

[boyedav1969]

21. He's perfectly willing to throw the down ballots under the bus...

...in order to divert resources to his own reelection. I'm pretty sure he views the presidency as his only lifeline out of the legal predicaments he's in.

[Attilatheblond]

28. Yep, he needs the WH to make it all go away

He has never had any intention to pay.

[mahina]

24. I sure hope so but lets not kid ourselves

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Their rancid motivations and cynical shameless tactics are like
plastic rubbish.

We can persuade many, iand we must, one by one. We are like the white and red blood cells, taking out the rubbish thinking.

Mixing metaphors. Still true.

https://utopia.org/guide/plastiglomerate-plastic-rocks-are-a-horrible-new-type-of-pollution/

[texasfiddler]

25. I heard Jaime Harrison say that this will impact GOP's down ballot racists.

He said races, but I heard racists. Well, both are correct.

[brooklynite]

26. Why do you think taking over the RNC "got their attention"?

The average Republican doesn’t think for a moment about the RNC or how it operates.

[berksdem]

34. Exactly this! Well said...

[Happy Hoosier]

27. This is really inside baseball for the vast majority....

I'm guess that 90% of Trump voters are not aware of it.

Of the 10% that are, probably the vast amjority are okay with it.

But every little bit counts.

[Ohioboy]

29. The should changed the name to MNC and call it quits

[LeftInTX]

30. No

[Think. Again.]

32. We Dems should find a way to...

...give these dissenting ex-trumpers reasons to vote Blue that will allow them to justify (to themselves and their friends) joining the Big Blue Wave. 🌊

[Scrivener7]

33. We always wonder that, don't we? And then we are truly appalled when they let him slide.

I know that's what I do. Every time.

[BlueKota]

52. I agree. I have learned not to get my hopes up

everytime I read a headline like Trump gets devastating news or Trump is toast. Blind optimism is as dangerous as total pessimism. The key to me is a healthy mix of both and try to be prepared for the good, the bad, and the in between.

[walkingman]

36. Nope - they literally worship him - he speaks their language.

How do I know, you might ask? I live in Texas.

[flying_wahini]

39. I live in Texas too and I have to say the red caps and T bumper stickers are dwindling. But it's early.

[walkingman]

46. I so hope your right. Trump's presidency and politics gives

Abbott permission and acceptability to be nasty and racist when in the past it would have never been acceptable to people with common decency.

[getagrip_already]

37. Dark money will appear when and where its needed.

As for the rnc, it's going into the litigation business.

Voter suppression instead of voter outreach and gotv.

It's cheaper and more effective.

The rest of the money will go to stinky. They don't care about small donors turning away from the rnc. That's more to go directly to stinky.

It's the big donors they want to funnel.

[dutch777]

38. Certainly affects Repug down ticket candidates who hope for RNC $ support. Whether it will change many votes ???

I think any way you cut this it is great news for Dems, at least down ticket. As much as I want Biden to be re-elected, I also want to retake the House and improve Dem majority in the Senate. To get things done, we need not only the WH but the Congress. In the terrible event that Trump wins, probably only because of the Electoral College if he does, limiting the damage of another Trump presidency is only possible thru having all of Congress in the Dem's hands.

[Ping Tung]

41. Rock meets Hard Place

If Repub candidates stick with Trump and MAGA they lose moderate/independent votes.

If they denounce Trump they lose MAGA votes.

It happened in my district in 2020. The Pugs had a safe seat held by the same congresswoman for 12 years. She turned against Trump by backing Romney 2016 and voted for his impeachment. In 2020 the local party was controlled by MAGAs and ran a superMAGA against her. We ended up with a liberal/moderate Democrat for the first time in 12 years.

I expect the same to happen around the country in '24.

[Roc2020]

42. maybe too religious for DU but...

there is an old saying, when you dance with the devil, the devil leads. The GOP from top to bottom danced with Trump, straight to the bottom where there is no bottom. Could not have happened to a nicer party. Hypocrites.

[leftyladyfrommo]

54. I know. It's amazing. Sometimes the wheels

turn slowly but when they do catch up it brings in a whole lot of fish. The whole Republican side of Congress was rotten. The Supreme Court was rotten. But they seem to be getting caught in a domino fashion.

[republianmushroom]

43. Many, No, some, Yes.

Not with his core base.

[PortTack]

47. Never get between someone and their money! Maybe the idea that he is rich is finally fracturing

[returnee]

49. Maybe, but...

It’s not about popular vote totals. IMHO, it’s about voter suppression and electoral fraud by state legislatures and the courts. If you have those, you don’t need votes.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

51. Making nepotism great again

[Bundbuster]

56. I believe YES, for the small percentage that decides an election

as you said...but don't take their money.

Tiny once again shows his egomania-driven incomprehension of human nature, which is bringing on his ultimate downfall.

[Blue Owl]

57. The Bride of Gums is doing her wifely duties

[LetMyPeopleVote]

58. Who is surprised by this?

[nakocal]

59. The thing to remember

is that republican voters are either truly evil and/or fucking stupid. They listen to lies spouted by republican candidates and then are too fucking stupid to look at their voting records.