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Joinfortmill

(21,162 posts)
Fri Mar 15, 2024, 03:36 PM Mar 2024

'Which Airlines are Not Flying the Boeing 737 MAX?'

https://www.alternativeairlines.com/airlines-not-flying-boeing-737-max


'...the following US carriers aren't using the Boeing 737 MAX on their flights:'

Allegiant Air*
Delta*
Frontier Airlines
Avelo Airlines
Hawaiian Airlines
JetBlue
Spirit Airlines
Sun Country Airlines
*Allegiant has 50 orders of the Boeing 737 MAX - deliveries were expected to begin in 2023.
*Delta Air Lines has 100 orders of the Boeing 737 MAX - deliveries to begin in 2025.



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'Which Airlines are Not Flying the Boeing 737 MAX?' (Original Post) Joinfortmill Mar 2024 OP
As 1,400+ have been produced I see no issue flying on it. EX500rider Mar 2024 #1
That's good to know. For now, folks have choices. Joinfortmill Mar 2024 #2
"hull losses"? orthoclad Mar 2024 #4
It's an industry term sorry if you've never heard it EX500rider Mar 2024 #5
How about "mass corporate murder", orthoclad Mar 2024 #6
Who was charged with murder? EX500rider Mar 2024 #7
Oh please A HERETIC I AM Mar 2024 #8
"Hull loss" means the airplane was destroyed jmowreader Mar 2024 #9
Most of those are bare bones air,ines with their own set of problems Fiendish Thingy Mar 2024 #3
Thought I saw someplace that B.See Mar 2024 #10

EX500rider

(12,582 posts)
1. As 1,400+ have been produced I see no issue flying on it.
Fri Mar 15, 2024, 03:42 PM
Mar 2024

I don't think they have had any hull loses since the 2 -737MAX incidents, the 1st one was 6 years ago and the second one had a lot of pilot error involved, the Co-Pilot on the Ethiopian Airlines 737 only had 361 flight hours with only 207 hours on the 737 and would not have been in the right seat in a 1st world airline.

According to the NTSB report:
Appropriate crew management of the event, per the procedures that existed at the time, would have allowed the crew to recover the airplane even when faced with the uncommanded nose-down inputs.

orthoclad

(4,728 posts)
4. "hull losses"?
Fri Mar 15, 2024, 04:12 PM
Mar 2024

Are you being serious or sarcastic?
You're talking about "incidents" that killed hundreds of people.

Or are those lives lost just collateral damage to losing the "hull"?

EX500rider

(12,582 posts)
5. It's an industry term sorry if you've never heard it
Fri Mar 15, 2024, 04:17 PM
Mar 2024

It is more descriptive then "accident" which might not mean a total loss of the plane

orthoclad

(4,728 posts)
6. How about "mass corporate murder",
Fri Mar 15, 2024, 09:08 PM
Mar 2024

a highly technical term restricted to empathetic human beings.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,876 posts)
8. Oh please
Fri Mar 15, 2024, 11:05 PM
Mar 2024

"mass corporate murder"

What a ridiculous statement. Boeing has a lot of problems right now, but intentionally killing people is not one of them.




And FWIW, "Hull Loss" is a perfectly applicable and appropriate term;


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hull_loss

jmowreader

(53,193 posts)
9. "Hull loss" means the airplane was destroyed
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 01:07 AM
Mar 2024

Most hull loss accidents involve high loss of life, but that isn’t universal. The famous Miracle on the Hudson was a hull loss with no fatalities.

Fiendish Thingy

(23,229 posts)
3. Most of those are bare bones air,ines with their own set of problems
Fri Mar 15, 2024, 04:04 PM
Mar 2024

With the exception of Delta and Hawaiian, I wouldn’t fly on any of those airlines.

B.See

(8,495 posts)
10. Thought I saw someplace that
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 01:46 AM
Mar 2024

passengers can pick what kind of aircraft they want to fly on. Though I'd imagine that'd drastically limit availability.

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