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Amazing. Mitt Romney's aides are telling stories of how key, big name Republican surrogates were worshiping Mitt Romney as an icon just days before the election, angling to score cabinet posts.
Then the stunning defeat, and the same ass kissers were on TV, just 6 days later eviscerating poor Mittens.
What a surprise that Repukes are hypocrites. It must have come as quite a shock to the biggest hypocrite of them all, the Mittster, himself.
Link to story;
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2237651/Romney-aides-blast-hypocrites-asked-cabinet-jobs-just-election-trashing-him.html?ICO=most_read_module
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(52,164 posts)seriously, on what planet was rmoney so far ahead that a defeat should be considered "stunning"???
louis c
(8,652 posts)Dick Morris was predicting not only a Romney win, but an electoral landslide (Nov 4).
Link;
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/11/05/dick_morris_stands_by_prediction_romney_will_win_325_electoral_votes.html
Romney up by 6 points in Florida (Mason Dixon poll on Nov. 3)
Link;
http://battlegroundwatch.com/2012/11/03/romney-6-in-florida-mason-dixon/
It's not hard to see that they believed they were going to win. By the way, it makes our win all the sweeter.
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(52,164 posts)which means the normal reaction would be a sense of betrayal rather than to think of the defeat as stunning.
but you're right, over all, it's a testament to how much in a fauxsnooze bubble these people are. they listen only to what suits them and then they're surprised when reality doesn't conform to their self-selected fictions.
you'd think that might wake them up, but no....
Gidney N Cloyd
(19,829 posts)* accurate = nail biter at best
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)I will NEVER understand how Romney was so confident that he didn't even write a concession speech. I'm just a voter from Iowa, and I knew a couple of things: 1.) Although the national polls were close, it was the state polls that counted and Obama definitely had the advantage; 2.) The blowhards on Fox News, as well as Rasmussen and Gallup were cooked polls. Absolutely no doubt.
Ok, if little ol' me--who is not a Harvard-educated, Bain-CEO who saved the Olympics--can understand those realities--why couldn't Mitt Romney and his campaign?
They did internal polling. They had to see the same numbers that the Obama camp did.
Literally, I think they're state of "shock" will remain as one of the great mysteries of our time.
They had to know. But they didn't!
How in the hell can that be?
dchill
(38,462 posts)and I think they simply believed their own bullshit.
ProudProgressiveNow
(6,129 posts)HurricaneWarning
(220 posts)I think the fix was in. They knew they were going to steal the election. It was either the voter turn out or maybe a last minute change of heart from the 'fixer". Who knows? Maybe it really was Anonymous. In a way, I'd like to think so.
TheKentuckian
(25,023 posts)You have probably also have face more adversity with far less tools and support.
Romney is a spoiled brat, legacy, bully fuckwit that has started every endeavor in life about falling down distance from home base.
it was combination of things. There were a few articles out (after the fact) that hinted at the fact that Mittens was ensconced in a "bubble" - they only shared good polls with him. Add into it that Republican pollsters generally regarded 2008 as a fluke and outlier thus disregarded the information. Many referenced 2000 and 2004 voter information to build their models (which disregarded large pockets of minority voters, voters with cell phones, etc.)
PLUS, Mittens has proven himself to sub-par CEO/manager.
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(52,164 posts)rmoney seems like the kind of person who surrounds himself with sycophants, who just tell him what he wants to hear.
whether that's because of the type of person he hires or because he effectively trains them that way (e.g., by punishing them heavily whenever they bring bad news), i don't know.
or maybe the tell him, and rmoney simply doesn't process the bad news.
selective hearing.
Raine
(30,540 posts)samsingh
(17,594 posts)oldbanjo
(690 posts)krakfiend
(202 posts)giving how much he himself flip flops on issues and other repukes. did he not think that they would not do this to him either, the arrogance. or stupidity. i think both. either way, i think he deserves all of it.
louis c
(8,652 posts)Javaman
(62,507 posts)zentrum
(9,865 posts)Lisa0825
(14,487 posts)Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)JHB
(37,158 posts)The man's entire career is saying absolutely anything to advance whatever agenda he's pushing.
Nothing that comes out of his mouth can be taken at face value unless it's liquid or semi-liquid. That's not a state secret, it's obvious to anyone who has observed him over the years. The man drops wives when they stop being useful, for
Pete's sake!
I guess there's a new word: Mittstupid, as in:
"You have to be Mittstupid to believe what Newt tells you."
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)If you actually believed these guys, you were far too guillible to have been allowed anywhere near the Oval Office.
KharmaTrain
(31,706 posts)Willard was never a popular choice...he was a survivor. He outlasted a dozen other clowns in last year's primaries...rarely drawing more than 20% support...and became the default "Great White Hope". People didn't support him as much as they were opposed to President Obama and saw Rmoney as their best chance to beat him. They assumed, wrongly, that the voting trends of 2010 would continue this year and that the Obama hate they heard in their echo chambers were being heard elsewhere. Even further, they were totally tone deaf to the hateful and downright scary rhetoric that drove millions to the polls despite rushpublican efforts of voter suppression to assure President Obama's victory.
It was obvious there was a growing line of those who were ready to push Willard under the bus. When the polls tightened and Bullshit Mountain floated dreams of a Willard victory those who were his detractors glammed on in hope they could "etch-a-sketch" things just like Willard did. It didn't take long the moment it looked like Rmoney would go down to defeat that the blame game would begin...and most of if directly (rightly) at him.
malaise
(268,844 posts)My own view is that every ReTHUG knew the election was over when Obama took out Bin Laden. That is why they bawled so loudly from the day after Bin Laden's death and continued bawling that Obama should not use the killing of Bin Laden in the campaign.
Seriously that was hilarious. Add to that the Obama campaign's ground game, the 47% comments and they never had a chance.
I think Huntsman's early withdrawal was based on a reality check.
KharmaTrain
(31,706 posts)I agree that, from hindsight of a very satisfying victory, we can say that President Obama won the election with the killing of bin Laden or the ineptness of the rushpublicans to alienate large blocs of voters were major factors that they still aren't coming to grips with. and so be it!
While I don't want to sound over-confident, I see the rushpublicans doing the same crap they did in the wake of the '08 loss. They give brief lip service to how the party needs to be more inclusive (they find a Mickie Steele...then regret it) and quickly climb turned to the far right. They still haven't learned...and maybe they will get some gains in '14, but the overall picture for '16 looks the same as it does for '12...the clowns are already lining up their cars.
Willard definitely used others...more than they used him. To my knowledge he didn't spend a dime of his fortune for his campaign and was able to soak other 1%'ers into writing big checks...much of went for naught. Huntsman couldn't raise the money or out crazy the batshit...he never stood a chance and still doesn't.
The "moderates" will be shouted down by the Bullshit Mountain gang and any brief moments of clarity and reality will be gone as opportunism is more important than any sort of integrity.
malaise
(268,844 posts)They can't help themselves
jsr
(7,712 posts)LOL
Berlum
(7,044 posts)Willard is way slow on this one.
Edy
(2 posts)I think both camps were foolish. A 3 way race would have meant a real landslide for the Democrats. Why didn't they have someone finance a third party? The republicans should have ran a black, hispanic, or woman. This would have assured them victory in a 2 party race.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)louis c
(8,652 posts)Any black, Hispanic or woman that espouses the same policies as the Repukes would have been beat just as bad. In Conn. the Female Repuke candidate for US Senate ran about 20% behind the Dem. Male candidate among woman. Sarah Palin was a prime example of how foolish it is to assume that color, gender or ethnicity alone will attract like members to a political party that has policies that are made to destroy them. In Mass. a gay Repuke ran against a damaged Dem for Congress. The Repuke lost. I hope the Repukes take your suggestion and think that tokenism works and that policies don't matter. If so, we'll be cleaning their clocks for decades.
As far as a third party candidate goes, if there is not an authentic, independent third party candidate, you suggestion is self-defeating.
The Obama campaign did all the right things, and that's why he won.
I did not mean to imply those tactics would work every time, but they could have won this time. This race was so close that it was feared even the fringe candidates could make the difference between a win and a loss so even the weakest of third parties would split the Romney vote. As far as the minority question goes, you are right, they would not vote against their best interest but their support for Obama was several percent higher than normal. How many percent did the GOP need?
louis c
(8,652 posts)How about the ying in the proverbial yang.
Did you forget about the 30% Republican bigot vote? Where do they go in order to pick up a couple of minority points?
You don't think that Repukes who believe that Obama was born in Kenya hold that position on merit, do you?
You don't think that the 30% of Repukes that think Obama is a Muslim come to that conclusion by the use of critical thinking? By the way, that's how I come up with the 30% figure.
There was no way the Repukes could win this election no matter who they nominated. Where were they going? Michele Bachman, Herman Cain, Sarah Palin?
Give me a break. I know you're new here, but you have to have some facts to back up an argument.
Any reasonable minority candidate couldn't get out of single digits in Iowa or South Carolina. Remember, the Repuke primary voters are radical Conservatives. Romney had to lie to them to appear unreasonable in order to get the nomination and then lie to the rest of the country in order to appear reasonable, and he still lost in an electoral vote landslide.
Believe it or not, that was their best shot. They came within 3 and a half points and any other strategy would have been a worse trouncing.
Cha
(297,029 posts)jerkoffs can't understand why romney is dead meat well before Thanksgiving.
Ewww.. that article had ugly pics of the players.