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louis c

(8,652 posts)
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 10:09 PM Nov 2012

Shocker: Romney Finds Out That Republicans Are Hypocrites

Amazing. Mitt Romney's aides are telling stories of how key, big name Republican surrogates were worshiping Mitt Romney as an icon just days before the election, angling to score cabinet posts.

Then the stunning defeat, and the same ass kissers were on TV, just 6 days later eviscerating poor Mittens.

What a surprise that Repukes are hypocrites. It must have come as quite a shock to the biggest hypocrite of them all, the Mittster, himself.

Link to story;
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2237651/Romney-aides-blast-hypocrites-asked-cabinet-jobs-just-election-trashing-him.html?ICO=most_read_module

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Shocker: Romney Finds Out That Republicans Are Hypocrites (Original Post) louis c Nov 2012 OP
i'm still stunned that they claim to be stunned. unblock Nov 2012 #1
Election Eve Predictions that Romney Supporters beleived......... louis c Nov 2012 #2
morris especially -- after the election, he even admitted he basically made it up unblock Nov 2012 #5
I'll never believe that they didn't have internals more accurate* than what we were being fed. Gidney N Cloyd Nov 2012 #6
I think this is a good point--and a legitimate mystery... CoffeeCat Nov 2012 #11
I'm with you on every point... dchill Nov 2012 #12
+1 nt ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #13
Money talks. HurricaneWarning Nov 2012 #16
You're probably smarter than Weird WiLIARd and more innately in touch with reality TheKentuckian Nov 2012 #29
I think mzteaze Nov 2012 #34
the question is what did they do with those numbers. did they tell rmoney the truth? unblock Nov 2012 #19
So am I. I'll never understand how they could be so cluelesss. nt Raine Nov 2012 #7
isn't this ayn rand at its core samsingh Nov 2012 #3
Birds of a feather flock together. oldbanjo Nov 2012 #4
and he finds this surprising krakfiend Nov 2012 #8
Welcome, Newbie louis c Nov 2012 #25
So the sociopath was out sociopathed. nt Javaman Nov 2012 #9
Good one! n/t zentrum Nov 2012 #14
I was expecting to click here and find another version of that Hitler video. LOL! nt Lisa0825 Nov 2012 #10
The pot calls the kettle black. Jamaal510 Nov 2012 #15
What kind of idiot do you have to be to trust Newt Gingrich? JHB Nov 2012 #17
Honestly Mitt DonCoquixote Nov 2012 #18
The Worst Candidate In Our Lifetimes... KharmaTrain Nov 2012 #20
I think WilLIARd was used by men who always profit from elections malaise Nov 2012 #22
The Lust For Power... KharmaTrain Nov 2012 #23
I think the party will crush the loonies after 2014 but use them until then malaise Nov 2012 #24
It's so hard not to feel for him jsr Nov 2012 #21
Hypocrisy is THE core Republican Value Berlum Nov 2012 #26
New here, so I'll just dive in Edy Nov 2012 #27
Welcome to DU! hrmjustin Nov 2012 #30
I guess you're new louis c Nov 2012 #31
I disagree Edy Nov 2012 #32
You're kidding me, right? louis c Nov 2012 #33
Poor Dan Senor and his wife, Campbell Brown, for that matter.. lying hypocritical Cha Nov 2012 #28

unblock

(52,164 posts)
1. i'm still stunned that they claim to be stunned.
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 10:20 PM
Nov 2012

seriously, on what planet was rmoney so far ahead that a defeat should be considered "stunning"???

 

louis c

(8,652 posts)
2. Election Eve Predictions that Romney Supporters beleived.........
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 10:25 PM
Nov 2012

Dick Morris was predicting not only a Romney win, but an electoral landslide (Nov 4).

Link;
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/11/05/dick_morris_stands_by_prediction_romney_will_win_325_electoral_votes.html



Romney up by 6 points in Florida (Mason Dixon poll on Nov. 3)

Link;
http://battlegroundwatch.com/2012/11/03/romney-6-in-florida-mason-dixon/

It's not hard to see that they believed they were going to win. By the way, it makes our win all the sweeter.

unblock

(52,164 posts)
5. morris especially -- after the election, he even admitted he basically made it up
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 10:37 PM
Nov 2012

which means the normal reaction would be a sense of betrayal rather than to think of the defeat as stunning.


but you're right, over all, it's a testament to how much in a fauxsnooze bubble these people are. they listen only to what suits them and then they're surprised when reality doesn't conform to their self-selected fictions.

you'd think that might wake them up, but no....

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,829 posts)
6. I'll never believe that they didn't have internals more accurate* than what we were being fed.
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 10:54 PM
Nov 2012

* accurate = nail biter at best

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
11. I think this is a good point--and a legitimate mystery...
Sun Nov 25, 2012, 12:01 AM
Nov 2012

I will NEVER understand how Romney was so confident that he didn't even write a concession speech. I'm just a voter from Iowa, and I knew a couple of things: 1.) Although the national polls were close, it was the state polls that counted and Obama definitely had the advantage; 2.) The blowhards on Fox News, as well as Rasmussen and Gallup were cooked polls. Absolutely no doubt.

Ok, if little ol' me--who is not a Harvard-educated, Bain-CEO who saved the Olympics--can understand those realities--why couldn't Mitt Romney and his campaign?

They did internal polling. They had to see the same numbers that the Obama camp did.

Literally, I think they're state of "shock" will remain as one of the great mysteries of our time.

They had to know. But they didn't!

How in the hell can that be?

HurricaneWarning

(220 posts)
16. Money talks.
Sun Nov 25, 2012, 12:25 AM
Nov 2012

I think the fix was in. They knew they were going to steal the election. It was either the voter turn out or maybe a last minute change of heart from the 'fixer". Who knows? Maybe it really was Anonymous. In a way, I'd like to think so.

TheKentuckian

(25,023 posts)
29. You're probably smarter than Weird WiLIARd and more innately in touch with reality
Sun Nov 25, 2012, 07:20 PM
Nov 2012

You have probably also have face more adversity with far less tools and support.

Romney is a spoiled brat, legacy, bully fuckwit that has started every endeavor in life about falling down distance from home base.

mzteaze

(448 posts)
34. I think
Sun Nov 25, 2012, 11:07 PM
Nov 2012

it was combination of things. There were a few articles out (after the fact) that hinted at the fact that Mittens was ensconced in a "bubble" - they only shared good polls with him. Add into it that Republican pollsters generally regarded 2008 as a fluke and outlier thus disregarded the information. Many referenced 2000 and 2004 voter information to build their models (which disregarded large pockets of minority voters, voters with cell phones, etc.)

PLUS, Mittens has proven himself to sub-par CEO/manager.

unblock

(52,164 posts)
19. the question is what did they do with those numbers. did they tell rmoney the truth?
Sun Nov 25, 2012, 09:26 AM
Nov 2012

rmoney seems like the kind of person who surrounds himself with sycophants, who just tell him what he wants to hear.

whether that's because of the type of person he hires or because he effectively trains them that way (e.g., by punishing them heavily whenever they bring bad news), i don't know.

or maybe the tell him, and rmoney simply doesn't process the bad news.

selective hearing.

krakfiend

(202 posts)
8. and he finds this surprising
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 11:50 PM
Nov 2012

giving how much he himself flip flops on issues and other repukes. did he not think that they would not do this to him either, the arrogance. or stupidity. i think both. either way, i think he deserves all of it.

JHB

(37,158 posts)
17. What kind of idiot do you have to be to trust Newt Gingrich?
Sun Nov 25, 2012, 12:58 AM
Nov 2012

The man's entire career is saying absolutely anything to advance whatever agenda he's pushing.

Nothing that comes out of his mouth can be taken at face value unless it's liquid or semi-liquid. That's not a state secret, it's obvious to anyone who has observed him over the years. The man drops wives when they stop being useful, for
Pete's sake!

I guess there's a new word: Mittstupid, as in:
"You have to be Mittstupid to believe what Newt tells you."

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
18. Honestly Mitt
Sun Nov 25, 2012, 01:58 AM
Nov 2012

If you actually believed these guys, you were far too guillible to have been allowed anywhere near the Oval Office.

KharmaTrain

(31,706 posts)
20. The Worst Candidate In Our Lifetimes...
Sun Nov 25, 2012, 09:40 AM
Nov 2012

Willard was never a popular choice...he was a survivor. He outlasted a dozen other clowns in last year's primaries...rarely drawing more than 20% support...and became the default "Great White Hope". People didn't support him as much as they were opposed to President Obama and saw Rmoney as their best chance to beat him. They assumed, wrongly, that the voting trends of 2010 would continue this year and that the Obama hate they heard in their echo chambers were being heard elsewhere. Even further, they were totally tone deaf to the hateful and downright scary rhetoric that drove millions to the polls despite rushpublican efforts of voter suppression to assure President Obama's victory.

It was obvious there was a growing line of those who were ready to push Willard under the bus. When the polls tightened and Bullshit Mountain floated dreams of a Willard victory those who were his detractors glammed on in hope they could "etch-a-sketch" things just like Willard did. It didn't take long the moment it looked like Rmoney would go down to defeat that the blame game would begin...and most of if directly (rightly) at him.

malaise

(268,844 posts)
22. I think WilLIARd was used by men who always profit from elections
Sun Nov 25, 2012, 09:52 AM
Nov 2012

My own view is that every ReTHUG knew the election was over when Obama took out Bin Laden. That is why they bawled so loudly from the day after Bin Laden's death and continued bawling that Obama should not use the killing of Bin Laden in the campaign.
Seriously that was hilarious. Add to that the Obama campaign's ground game, the 47% comments and they never had a chance.

I think Huntsman's early withdrawal was based on a reality check.

KharmaTrain

(31,706 posts)
23. The Lust For Power...
Sun Nov 25, 2012, 10:25 AM
Nov 2012

I agree that, from hindsight of a very satisfying victory, we can say that President Obama won the election with the killing of bin Laden or the ineptness of the rushpublicans to alienate large blocs of voters were major factors that they still aren't coming to grips with. and so be it!

While I don't want to sound over-confident, I see the rushpublicans doing the same crap they did in the wake of the '08 loss. They give brief lip service to how the party needs to be more inclusive (they find a Mickie Steele...then regret it) and quickly climb turned to the far right. They still haven't learned...and maybe they will get some gains in '14, but the overall picture for '16 looks the same as it does for '12...the clowns are already lining up their cars.

Willard definitely used others...more than they used him. To my knowledge he didn't spend a dime of his fortune for his campaign and was able to soak other 1%'ers into writing big checks...much of went for naught. Huntsman couldn't raise the money or out crazy the batshit...he never stood a chance and still doesn't.

The "moderates" will be shouted down by the Bullshit Mountain gang and any brief moments of clarity and reality will be gone as opportunism is more important than any sort of integrity.

malaise

(268,844 posts)
24. I think the party will crush the loonies after 2014 but use them until then
Sun Nov 25, 2012, 01:12 PM
Nov 2012

They can't help themselves

Edy

(2 posts)
27. New here, so I'll just dive in
Sun Nov 25, 2012, 07:02 PM
Nov 2012

I think both camps were foolish. A 3 way race would have meant a real landslide for the Democrats. Why didn't they have someone finance a third party? The republicans should have ran a black, hispanic, or woman. This would have assured them victory in a 2 party race.

 

louis c

(8,652 posts)
31. I guess you're new
Sun Nov 25, 2012, 07:31 PM
Nov 2012

Any black, Hispanic or woman that espouses the same policies as the Repukes would have been beat just as bad. In Conn. the Female Repuke candidate for US Senate ran about 20% behind the Dem. Male candidate among woman. Sarah Palin was a prime example of how foolish it is to assume that color, gender or ethnicity alone will attract like members to a political party that has policies that are made to destroy them. In Mass. a gay Repuke ran against a damaged Dem for Congress. The Repuke lost. I hope the Repukes take your suggestion and think that tokenism works and that policies don't matter. If so, we'll be cleaning their clocks for decades.

As far as a third party candidate goes, if there is not an authentic, independent third party candidate, you suggestion is self-defeating.

The Obama campaign did all the right things, and that's why he won.

Edy

(2 posts)
32. I disagree
Sun Nov 25, 2012, 08:14 PM
Nov 2012

I did not mean to imply those tactics would work every time, but they could have won this time. This race was so close that it was feared even the fringe candidates could make the difference between a win and a loss so even the weakest of third parties would split the Romney vote. As far as the minority question goes, you are right, they would not vote against their best interest but their support for Obama was several percent higher than normal. How many percent did the GOP need?

 

louis c

(8,652 posts)
33. You're kidding me, right?
Sun Nov 25, 2012, 09:56 PM
Nov 2012

How about the ying in the proverbial yang.

Did you forget about the 30% Republican bigot vote? Where do they go in order to pick up a couple of minority points?

You don't think that Repukes who believe that Obama was born in Kenya hold that position on merit, do you?

You don't think that the 30% of Repukes that think Obama is a Muslim come to that conclusion by the use of critical thinking? By the way, that's how I come up with the 30% figure.

There was no way the Repukes could win this election no matter who they nominated. Where were they going? Michele Bachman, Herman Cain, Sarah Palin?

Give me a break. I know you're new here, but you have to have some facts to back up an argument.

Any reasonable minority candidate couldn't get out of single digits in Iowa or South Carolina. Remember, the Repuke primary voters are radical Conservatives. Romney had to lie to them to appear unreasonable in order to get the nomination and then lie to the rest of the country in order to appear reasonable, and he still lost in an electoral vote landslide.

Believe it or not, that was their best shot. They came within 3 and a half points and any other strategy would have been a worse trouncing.

Cha

(297,029 posts)
28. Poor Dan Senor and his wife, Campbell Brown, for that matter.. lying hypocritical
Sun Nov 25, 2012, 07:08 PM
Nov 2012

jerkoffs can't understand why romney is dead meat well before Thanksgiving.

Ewww.. that article had ugly pics of the players.

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