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applegrove

(132,216 posts)
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 01:41 AM Mar 2024

Hey, speaking of rich people and complicit corporate media, did you know two of the three richest men on Earth

https://social.treehouse.systems/@AnarchoNinaAnalyzes/112102817487494281

"Hey, speaking of rich people and complicit corporate media, did you know two of the three richest men on Earth (Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos) and the family that own's Trader Joes, are currently trying to get American courts to declare the core functions of the National Labor Relations Act unconstitutional, and the mainstream media is literally barely reporting it?

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Hey, speaking of rich people and complicit corporate media, did you know two of the three richest men on Earth (Original Post) applegrove Mar 2024 OP
Trader Joe's? StarryNite Mar 2024 #1
Trader Joe's is owned by the Albrecht family of Germany DFW Mar 2024 #2
Apparently they are pushing for U.S. union-busting legislation. Think. Again. Mar 2024 #3
I didn't check the links out DFW Mar 2024 #9
All that wealth... GiqueCee Mar 2024 #4
I read both links. former9thward Mar 2024 #5
Is the Guardian an okay link? applegrove Mar 2024 #6
Well, at least that link included Starbucks as part of the "Law of the Jungle" companies. former9thward Mar 2024 #7
So upending labour laws isn't returning the USA to a time applegrove Mar 2024 #8
I have written a published book on the history of the Steelworkers Union. former9thward Mar 2024 #10
So you do or you do not want an orderly labour market? applegrove Mar 2024 #11
We have a different labor history than the UK and Europe. former9thward Mar 2024 #12
I am Canadian. applegrove Mar 2024 #13

StarryNite

(12,116 posts)
1. Trader Joe's?
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 02:08 AM
Mar 2024

That's a disappointment. I don't have one close by so I rarely shop there. Now I'm glad. Screw 'em!

DFW

(60,186 posts)
2. Trader Joe's is owned by the Albrecht family of Germany
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 02:25 AM
Mar 2024

I don’t know what involvement they are supposed to have in our election, but our neighbor’s daughter is a regional manager for their parent company (Aldi) in Hamburg, and they haven’t made any noises about political activity in America at all that anyone here in Germany seems to have heard of.

 

Think. Again.

(22,456 posts)
3. Apparently they are pushing for U.S. union-busting legislation.
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 06:13 AM
Mar 2024

according to the links in the OP.

DFW

(60,186 posts)
9. I didn't check the links out
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 11:05 AM
Mar 2024

Their pushing for union-busting legislation is no surprise, I suppose, considering the number of employees they now have in the USA, but Trader Joe's, at least in the old days, was known for being a decent place to work. Aldi, the German parent company, may be different, but our neighbor's daughter started out on the bottom rung, and has worked her way up the ladder on her own. She must now be about 30, and is pregnant, so she'll be getting the German maternity leave soon. I have no clue how Aldi treats its American employees.

GiqueCee

(4,259 posts)
4. All that wealth...
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 09:28 AM
Mar 2024

... and they're still not satisfied until they take what little you may have as well.
What unspeakably rotten people.

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
5. I read both links.
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 09:53 AM
Mar 2024

I would think someone who actually wants to know the facts would get them from someplace other than "AnarchoNina". I am not an anarchist, so I find that person's post which was nothing but name calling without giving any facts from the case to be less than credible.

The other link, contained in the first one, was also inaccurate. It says that Musk, Bezos, etc. (without naming any case) wants disputes to go to federal courts instead of the NLRB. Supposedly because it will be forgotten there because of time lags. That ignores that fact that disputes taken to the NLRB also have a very long time lag. Maybe some facts would help somewhere.

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
7. Well, at least that link included Starbucks as part of the "Law of the Jungle" companies.
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 10:22 AM
Mar 2024

I wonder why Starbucks was left out of the other two links? Is it because they are considered progressive and people like them? I really prefer actual unbiased news articles as opposed to articles that attempt to tell me what to think. The Guardian article is headlined "Major US corporations threaten to return labor to ‘law of the jungle’". Hardly unbiased.

applegrove

(132,216 posts)
8. So upending labour laws isn't returning the USA to a time
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 10:27 AM
Mar 2024

when workers had no power? Mkay.

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
10. I have written a published book on the history of the Steelworkers Union.
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 11:12 AM
Mar 2024

I am a former member and elected official of the steel mill where I worked.

Workers were at the highest power in the 1930s before labor laws became dominant. Things like sit down strikes, mass organizing in basic industries, all took place without "labor laws". In fact, labor law, especially the NLRB, were passed in an attempt to get labor relations under control of the government instead of the workers taking self action themselves. Although I am sympathetic to the subject when I became an attorney I stayed away from labor law. I saw what a bureaucratic morass it was.

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
12. We have a different labor history than the UK and Europe.
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 11:17 AM
Mar 2024

I notice you are spelling "labor" as "labour" which is how the British spell it.

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