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scipan

(2,361 posts)
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 11:34 PM Mar 17

George Conway about the "bloodbath" remark

I really like his take. (Bold is mine)

There’s some commentary saying we should disregard Trump’s “bloodbath” remarks last night because he was talking about potential harms to the auto industry.

That is misguided. 1/x
Trump may well have been referring to a “bloodbath” in that industry. He’s sufficiently incoherent that, as is so often the case with him, it’s hard to tell one way other what exactly he’s talking about at any given moment. 2/x
I’m willing to assume for the sake of argument that he was referring to cars. And it makes no difference to his malicious intent or to the danger he and his rhetoric poses. 3/x
What matters is that he consistently uses apocalyptic and violent language in an indiscriminate fashion as a result of his psychopathy and correlative authoritarian tendencies, and because he’s just plain evil. 4/x
It’s a classic trait and technique of authoritarian demagogues. He catastrophizes *everything* to rile up his cultish supporters, and to bind them to him, and to make them willing to do his bidding. 5/x
That’s dangerous all around because he’s encouraging them to believe that conditions are so bad or will become so bad, and that the political opposition is so awful, that anything is justified—including law-breaking and violence—to prevent those conditions and to destroy the opposition. 6/x
And so it doesn’t matter what he’s specifically referring to at the moment.
He could be talking about trans people in public bathrooms or the state of the auto industry or the border—it doesn’t matter. 7/x
He’s a dangerous psychopath, and after more than eight years of watching his sick behavior, we must not give him the benefit of the doubt. 8/8 (end).

https://www.threads.net/@gtconway3/post/C4nhv1WMnDl/?xmt=AQGznQPdxvExO00YSSMshk8t3J1tFQirh5UheFAXYMDjoQ
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George Conway about the "bloodbath" remark (Original Post) scipan Mar 17 OP
He explicitly said "it would be a bloodbath for the whole country," not just the auto industry. SunSeeker Mar 17 #1
Yes. He's either catastrophizing about the whole economy scipan Mar 17 #5
Just saw this. sheshe2 Mar 18 #16
The media is peddling it in both-siderism fashion as usual. They can't help themselves. PSPS Mar 17 #2
The MSM is getting scary. I watch NBC most nights scipan Mar 18 #6
Trump wants a much chaos oasis Mar 17 #3
Republicans know how to go for the kill FHRRK Mar 17 #4
Dems are as bad at projection as repubs? scipan Mar 18 #8
There is an example in my post FHRRK Mar 18 #9
"empathy" yes I read it. Don't see much empathy in GC's post. scipan Mar 18 #14
Lol FHRRK Mar 18 #17
Okay. You weren't serious. scipan Mar 18 #19
I think GC would be fine FHRRK Mar 18 #20
The way they want to play fast and loose with words about "Genocide Joe", I'll do the same with "Bloodbath Donald". SoFlaBro Mar 18 #7
There is a big difference FHRRK Mar 18 #11
Exactly. It isn't a genocide but they play fast and loose with the language anyway. He said "bloodbath" but not really? SoFlaBro Mar 18 #13
THIS malaise Mar 18 #23
I think that's exactly right. He describes everything in violent terms Ocelot II Mar 18 #10
Either then or scipan Mar 18 #12
I doubt the tiny mushroom can get stiff. Elessar Zappa Mar 18 #18
TY & George Cnway. Precisely in my View!! Of course. Cha Mar 18 #15
Classic dog whistle communication to MAGAts. no_hypocrisy Mar 18 #21
May the handful of DUers who bought into the Trump campaign's "context" defense read this hlthe2b Mar 18 #22

SunSeeker

(51,734 posts)
1. He explicitly said "it would be a bloodbath for the whole country," not just the auto industry.
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 11:38 PM
Mar 17

He explicitly said the auto industry issues "would be the least of it." So he is definitely talking about much more than the auto industry.

Video clip of the relevant portion of Trump's speech here:

https://x.com/krassenstein/status/1769182503107985645?s=20

scipan

(2,361 posts)
5. Yes. He's either catastrophizing about the whole economy
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 11:59 PM
Mar 17

Therefore, his followers should "fight like hell", or possibly telling his followers to fight like hell more directly, but the message is to fight like hell regardless.

PSPS

(13,620 posts)
2. The media is peddling it in both-siderism fashion as usual. They can't help themselves.
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 11:48 PM
Mar 17

The more outrageous, the better for their perpetual outrage porn industry. Clicks! Views!!1 $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

I'm back to my 2020 behavior where I just turn off the radio or TV as soon as I hear his voice.

scipan

(2,361 posts)
6. The MSM is getting scary. I watch NBC most nights
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 12:02 AM
Mar 18

and it's almost jaw droppingly bad. At least there's MSNBC and other sources.

oasis

(49,418 posts)
3. Trump wants a much chaos
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 11:52 PM
Mar 17

as possible when he loses. He'll be pissed that not enough real patriots came out to vote for him, therefore, to hell with the country.

FHRRK

(502 posts)
4. Republicans know how to go for the kill
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 11:57 PM
Mar 17

Dems somehow feel they are above the fray, too intelligent, and are just as fucking bad at projection as Repubs.

Difference is Dems project their own compassion onto horrible people who deserve zero compassion.

Want to know why Dems have been increasingly losing males, because they can’t figure out the basic fact that at some point compassion stops and it is time to kick some people in the teeth. There are literally just a handful of National Repubs deserving of any compassion.

Trump, no fucking way, ever.

It is mind numbing that DU is arguing what trump meant.

1. Any person that hasn’t had their head up their ass for a decade knows trump lies. It doesn’t fucking matter if he defends is, says it was taken out of context, whatever, he is a lying piece of shit who has a long and proven history of inciting violence.

2. Any other excuse someone may make, see #1.

For fucks sake, this is about as easy as it gets, a fat pitch. Hit the thing out of the park.

scipan

(2,361 posts)
8. Dems are as bad at projection as repubs?
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 12:09 AM
Mar 18

Like?

ETA: I don't see any projection by George Conway with this particular subject.

SoFlaBro

(1,969 posts)
7. The way they want to play fast and loose with words about "Genocide Joe", I'll do the same with "Bloodbath Donald".
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 12:09 AM
Mar 18

Two can fucking play that game.

SoFlaBro

(1,969 posts)
13. Exactly. It isn't a genocide but they play fast and loose with the language anyway. He said "bloodbath" but not really?
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 12:23 AM
Mar 18

Ocelot II

(115,875 posts)
10. I think that's exactly right. He describes everything in violent terms
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 12:13 AM
Mar 18

in order to scare and motivate the cult to become violent, if necessary, in support of whatever Dear Leader wants. 1/6 probably gave him the stiffest hard-on he ever had in his life.

hlthe2b

(102,397 posts)
22. May the handful of DUers who bought into the Trump campaign's "context" defense read this
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 09:35 AM
Mar 18

AND the warnings from Trump's own respected psychologist niece (thread linked below). Think again. His words WILL kill. They are NOT benign.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100218787433


Mary Trump's Dire Warning After Donald Trump's 'Bloodbath' Remark

Former President Donald Trump's estranged niece, Mary Trump, issued a dire warning on Saturday after her uncle's "bloodbath" remark at a rally.

Trump, the presumed 2024 GOP presidential nominee who was in Ohio on Saturday for a campaign stop at the Buckeye Values PAC rally, came under criticism for telling rallygoers that if he doesn't get reelected in November "it's going to be a bloodbath for the country."

Following his remark, Mary Trump took to X, formerly Twitter, to warn others of the seriousness of her uncle's statement.

"Donald Trump does not deserve the benefit of the doubt and this isn't a f***ing joke. His statement is both a threat and a promise. The corporate media needs to start acting accordingly," she wrote.

https://www.newsweek.com/mary-trump-issues-warning-over-donald-trumps-blood-bath-remark-1880069
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