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scipan

(3,010 posts)
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 10:34 PM Mar 2024

George Conway about the "bloodbath" remark

I really like his take. (Bold is mine)

There’s some commentary saying we should disregard Trump’s “bloodbath” remarks last night because he was talking about potential harms to the auto industry.

That is misguided. 1/x
Trump may well have been referring to a “bloodbath” in that industry. He’s sufficiently incoherent that, as is so often the case with him, it’s hard to tell one way other what exactly he’s talking about at any given moment. 2/x
I’m willing to assume for the sake of argument that he was referring to cars. And it makes no difference to his malicious intent or to the danger he and his rhetoric poses. 3/x
What matters is that he consistently uses apocalyptic and violent language in an indiscriminate fashion as a result of his psychopathy and correlative authoritarian tendencies, and because he’s just plain evil. 4/x
It’s a classic trait and technique of authoritarian demagogues. He catastrophizes *everything* to rile up his cultish supporters, and to bind them to him, and to make them willing to do his bidding. 5/x
That’s dangerous all around because he’s encouraging them to believe that conditions are so bad or will become so bad, and that the political opposition is so awful, that anything is justified—including law-breaking and violence—to prevent those conditions and to destroy the opposition. 6/x
And so it doesn’t matter what he’s specifically referring to at the moment.
He could be talking about trans people in public bathrooms or the state of the auto industry or the border—it doesn’t matter. 7/x
He’s a dangerous psychopath, and after more than eight years of watching his sick behavior, we must not give him the benefit of the doubt. 8/8 (end).


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George Conway about the "bloodbath" remark (Original Post) scipan Mar 2024 OP
He explicitly said "it would be a bloodbath for the whole country," not just the auto industry. SunSeeker Mar 2024 #1
Yes. He's either catastrophizing about the whole economy scipan Mar 2024 #5
Just saw this. sheshe2 Mar 2024 #16
The media is peddling it in both-siderism fashion as usual. They can't help themselves. PSPS Mar 2024 #2
The MSM is getting scary. I watch NBC most nights scipan Mar 2024 #6
Trump wants a much chaos oasis Mar 2024 #3
Republicans know how to go for the kill FHRRK Mar 2024 #4
Dems are as bad at projection as repubs? scipan Mar 2024 #8
There is an example in my post FHRRK Mar 2024 #9
"empathy" yes I read it. Don't see much empathy in GC's post. scipan Mar 2024 #14
Lol FHRRK Mar 2024 #17
Okay. You weren't serious. scipan Mar 2024 #19
I think GC would be fine FHRRK Mar 2024 #20
The way they want to play fast and loose with words about "Genocide Joe", I'll do the same with "Bloodbath Donald". SoFlaBro Mar 2024 #7
There is a big difference FHRRK Mar 2024 #11
Exactly. It isn't a genocide but they play fast and loose with the language anyway. He said "bloodbath" but not really? SoFlaBro Mar 2024 #13
THIS malaise Mar 2024 #23
I think that's exactly right. He describes everything in violent terms Ocelot II Mar 2024 #10
Either then or scipan Mar 2024 #12
I doubt the tiny mushroom can get stiff. Elessar Zappa Mar 2024 #18
TY & George Cnway. Precisely in my View!! Of course. Cha Mar 2024 #15
Classic dog whistle communication to MAGAts. no_hypocrisy Mar 2024 #21
May the handful of DUers who bought into the Trump campaign's "context" defense read this hlthe2b Mar 2024 #22

SunSeeker

(57,885 posts)
1. He explicitly said "it would be a bloodbath for the whole country," not just the auto industry.
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 10:38 PM
Mar 2024

He explicitly said the auto industry issues "would be the least of it." So he is definitely talking about much more than the auto industry.

Video clip of the relevant portion of Trump's speech here:


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scipan

(3,010 posts)
5. Yes. He's either catastrophizing about the whole economy
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 10:59 PM
Mar 2024

Therefore, his followers should "fight like hell", or possibly telling his followers to fight like hell more directly, but the message is to fight like hell regardless.

PSPS

(15,263 posts)
2. The media is peddling it in both-siderism fashion as usual. They can't help themselves.
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 10:48 PM
Mar 2024

The more outrageous, the better for their perpetual outrage porn industry. Clicks! Views!!1 $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

I'm back to my 2020 behavior where I just turn off the radio or TV as soon as I hear his voice.

scipan

(3,010 posts)
6. The MSM is getting scary. I watch NBC most nights
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 11:02 PM
Mar 2024

and it's almost jaw droppingly bad. At least there's MSNBC and other sources.

oasis

(53,433 posts)
3. Trump wants a much chaos
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 10:52 PM
Mar 2024

as possible when he loses. He'll be pissed that not enough real patriots came out to vote for him, therefore, to hell with the country.

FHRRK

(1,404 posts)
4. Republicans know how to go for the kill
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 10:57 PM
Mar 2024

Dems somehow feel they are above the fray, too intelligent, and are just as fucking bad at projection as Repubs.

Difference is Dems project their own compassion onto horrible people who deserve zero compassion.

Want to know why Dems have been increasingly losing males, because they can’t figure out the basic fact that at some point compassion stops and it is time to kick some people in the teeth. There are literally just a handful of National Repubs deserving of any compassion.

Trump, no fucking way, ever.

It is mind numbing that DU is arguing what trump meant.

1. Any person that hasn’t had their head up their ass for a decade knows trump lies. It doesn’t fucking matter if he defends is, says it was taken out of context, whatever, he is a lying piece of shit who has a long and proven history of inciting violence.

2. Any other excuse someone may make, see #1.

For fucks sake, this is about as easy as it gets, a fat pitch. Hit the thing out of the park.

scipan

(3,010 posts)
8. Dems are as bad at projection as repubs?
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 11:09 PM
Mar 2024

Like?

ETA: I don't see any projection by George Conway with this particular subject.

SoFlaBro

(3,742 posts)
7. The way they want to play fast and loose with words about "Genocide Joe", I'll do the same with "Bloodbath Donald".
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 11:09 PM
Mar 2024

Two can fucking play that game.

SoFlaBro

(3,742 posts)
13. Exactly. It isn't a genocide but they play fast and loose with the language anyway. He said "bloodbath" but not really?
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 11:23 PM
Mar 2024

Ocelot II

(129,730 posts)
10. I think that's exactly right. He describes everything in violent terms
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 11:13 PM
Mar 2024

in order to scare and motivate the cult to become violent, if necessary, in support of whatever Dear Leader wants. 1/6 probably gave him the stiffest hard-on he ever had in his life.

hlthe2b

(113,196 posts)
22. May the handful of DUers who bought into the Trump campaign's "context" defense read this
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 08:35 AM
Mar 2024

AND the warnings from Trump's own respected psychologist niece (thread linked below). Think again. His words WILL kill. They are NOT benign.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100218787433


Mary Trump's Dire Warning After Donald Trump's 'Bloodbath' Remark

Former President Donald Trump's estranged niece, Mary Trump, issued a dire warning on Saturday after her uncle's "bloodbath" remark at a rally.

Trump, the presumed 2024 GOP presidential nominee who was in Ohio on Saturday for a campaign stop at the Buckeye Values PAC rally, came under criticism for telling rallygoers that if he doesn't get reelected in November "it's going to be a bloodbath for the country."

Following his remark, Mary Trump took to X, formerly Twitter, to warn others of the seriousness of her uncle's statement.

"Donald Trump does not deserve the benefit of the doubt and this isn't a f***ing joke. His statement is both a threat and a promise. The corporate media needs to start acting accordingly," she wrote.

https://www.newsweek.com/mary-trump-issues-warning-over-donald-trumps-blood-bath-remark-1880069
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