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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDeadbeat Donny Fully Exposed!
And it ain't pretty.
He's broke and can't come up with the cash to back a bond for his appeal in NY. So, he's begging the appeals court to have pity on him and let him skate on putting up bond for an appeal he will almost certainly lose.
His billionaire costume has been snatched off his body, exposing his financial shortfalls, along with other shortcomings he wishes were not seen.
I guess he's really not all that, after all.
malaise
(290,829 posts)Things fall apart - I am cracking up
MineralMan
(150,133 posts)malaise
(290,829 posts)asshole cannot center - this is too good
MineralMan
(150,133 posts)Codifer
(1,122 posts)but the downside:
"Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world".
T.S.E
MineralMan
(150,133 posts)CanonRay
(15,768 posts)Codifer
(1,122 posts)Both are high on my list of genius.
Waaaaay back when, a time of great foolishness on my part. i took crucial final exam in English Lit. The question was:
Describe the use of poetic compression as used by Gerald Manley Hopkins.
I wrote a beautiful and brilliant essay on "The second coming".
"Turning and turning in the ever widening gyre
the falcon cannot hear the falconer....."
unfortunately,
Gerald Manley Hopkins wrote "The Windhover"
"I saw this morning, morning's
Kingdom of dapple dawn drawn falcon
riding level underneath him steady air."
Shoulda been a slam dunk but instead it was Hello Vietnam.
Trueblue1968
(18,913 posts)malaise
(290,829 posts)Just knowing how he feels is good
Dirty Socialist
(3,252 posts)The court throws their fucking asses in JAIL until the trial date.
NATION OF PRIVILEGE
PCIntern
(27,773 posts)rsdsharp
(11,492 posts)B. The trial has already been held. Hes appealing the $450 million judgment.
H2O Man
(78,188 posts)The king's new clothes.
Emile
(38,851 posts)He has been living off other people's money his entire life. Successful business man my ass!
calimary
(88,437 posts)lindysalsagal
(22,766 posts)How stupid does an entire party have to be to choose this failed loser as their candidate?
MineralMan
(150,133 posts)might just take another look at him. He's going to lose some support.
It's hard to have a champion everyone's laughing at, I think.
peacebuzzard
(5,761 posts)they will pinch their noses when they vote, or they will just go shoot their guns at the remainder of the skinny skittish wildlife. and not vote at all.
MineralMan
(150,133 posts)erronis
(21,850 posts)Starring an ex-president!
Bring your tales of woes to the stage and let a panel of other losers vote on how bad you are.
And then the emcee gongs you off and declares that he's always the Ultimate Loser.
Mr. Evil
(3,415 posts)They all believe they'll be rewarded with great power and wealth. Useful idiots are only useful... until they fall out of a window.
AllaN01Bear
(27,935 posts)Mr. Evil
(3,415 posts)Just basic Heavy Metal humor. I'm the likable, neighborly evil.
birdographer
(2,937 posts)I was just recently wondering what floor Donnie is living on, do the windows open or are they breakable? And wouldn't he welcome a guest from Russia? He has to have outlived his usefulness to Pootie, and he may be a liability at this point. Just thinking about his windows... 🙏
bluesbassman
(20,349 posts)Apt description for his current state, but unsettling all the same!
MineralMan
(150,133 posts)This is just the sort of thing that will hurt him more any anything else. He is clearly seen to be not the man he has claimed to be.
malaise
(290,829 posts)It was all fake - the emperor is naked, broke and humiliated and we're all here to celebrate with Tish..
OMGWTF
(4,946 posts)bluesbassman
(20,349 posts)The thought that this is his new reality definitely offsets the visual!
Wounded Bear
(63,430 posts)People like trump need to spend some time there.
MineralMan
(150,133 posts)Those can lead to prison. It's slow work, though.
Bundbuster
(4,018 posts)
Duppers
(28,446 posts)MOMFUDSKI
(7,080 posts)Flyover country believed his bullshit from the TV machine. P T Barnum said it best.
Prairie_Seagull
(4,538 posts)JoseBalow
(8,882 posts)"Flop Meat"
Attilatheblond
(7,721 posts)Guessing ol Pardoned Paul has kept his Russian Rolodex out of TSF's reach.
'You want Rubles? Gonna cost ya more than a pardon Stinky!'
The DOJ really needs to get subpoenas for ALL Trump properties (including any graves) and find the rest of those missing documents. Also, re giving the presumptive GOP nominee any security briefings: Only fake info please, then nab his ass when he slips info to foreign assets.
GITMO is probably nice this time of year.
Blue Owl
(57,854 posts)Get ready for one huge stench!
calimary
(88,437 posts)Might make it harder for him to leave the country.
honest.abe
(9,238 posts)Last edited Mon Mar 18, 2024, 02:01 PM - Edit history (1)
Fake billionaire.
NoMoreRepugs
(11,716 posts)pony up.
MineralMan
(150,133 posts)A few million is no big deal. Half a billion, though, is a pretty big deal. And, worse, you can count on never seeing that money again. Trump can't and won't return it if you put it up. So, where's the deal? How does someone benefit by bailing that sorry asshole out?
Wednesdays
(21,275 posts)dobleremolque
(1,080 posts)with new locks and inventory sheets for the assets seizure at the ready.
niyad
(128,308 posts)necessary documents ready to go.
dutch777
(4,765 posts)I suspect when you get into the details of the discussions between Team Donnie and would be bond issuers, you would find Donnie so limited the terms he would take or collateral he would offer that is why the issuers said no. If Donnie, put his whole empire up as collateral it would be more than ample. He simply wants to so limit the discussion just so he can tell a judge I went out to dozens of firms and no one will back me for this amount, so you HAVE to lower the amount judge!
onethatcares
(16,931 posts)what he's probably going through is no one trusts him to pay them back. He's made a life of stiffing everyone. Plus, Chubb already has it's claws in him so he's paying one credit card with another and the house of credit cards is getting set to crumble.
gaud,d it couldn't happen to a better asshole.
calimary
(88,437 posts)With this snake, Im hesitant to count any chickens before they hatch. Especially when the snake always seems to find his way into the henhouse.
dutch777
(4,765 posts)...you know, the corner apartment just next to Edward Snowden's.
returnee
(724 posts)when he testified he had $400 hundred million in cash available.
DinahMoeHum
(23,259 posts)and the bill has come due.
MineralMan
(150,133 posts)Permanut
(7,720 posts)So when I get a parking ticket, I can apparently beg the judge for some leniency based on the fact that I don't have the money.
Paladin
(31,908 posts)I've seen way too many instances of trump walking away from shit like this.
calimary
(88,437 posts)Maybe somebodys finally hooked him.
NOTHING lasts forever. Does that finally include Trumps run of devious luck? Sure hope so.
Deuxcents
(24,678 posts)calimary
(88,437 posts)Especially when one is already there!
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,291 posts)Newsweek:
Trump, who was recently hit with a massive $454 million penalty in the New York civil fraud case, could benefit massively from the proposed deal. Once it closes, his stake in his social media company, Trump Media & Technology Group (TMTG), could be worth as much as $3 billion. TMTG is the parent company of Trump's Truth Social, the platform he started after being banned from sites like Twitter and Facebook in the wake of the January 6, 2021, riot at the U.S. Capitol.
Because Trump would own 79 million shares in the postmerger company, the deal could give him a "financial lifeline," according to The New York Times. The stock closed on Wednesday at $40.19 per share. At that price, Trump's overwhelmingly majority stake would be worth over $3.1 billion.
Regulations would forbid him selling shares for 90 days after the deal goes into effect, but he could borrow against it as collateral. If he sold about 15% of that to pay the penalty or pay a loan for the penalty, he'd depress the stock price. The more he sells, the more it drops.
brush
(61,033 posts)no speculating on a possible deal that may or may not happen.
If his real estate holding don't cut it, his alleged shares in a possible deal sure don't.
Justice matters.
(9,062 posts)In cash.
Worth is just a word. Someone known to be HONEST and TRUTHFUL can play the game of borrowing and paying back once the "worth" (or portions of it) is liquidated...
Apparently, criminal defendant hitler2-wannabe cannot be trusted...
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,291 posts)IbogaProject
(5,354 posts)Professionals have evaluated any thing he could think of and 30 companies through four brokers all said nope.
wiggs
(8,551 posts)just throwing up their hands and saying they tried or do they have a plan? Aside from appeal?
If I'm a judge looking at this I'd require Trump attorney's to list what bond companies were approached then have a clerk call and ask about the conversations, how hard Trump tried, what the sticking points are. Would they take properties as collateral or not?
If he owns properties as he claims, then he's not broke just cash poor and that's no excuse to claim he can't make payments or bonds.
Are they trying to let NY seize his assets so they can start suing and draw this whole thing out further and further?
Hope22
(4,293 posts)If he had just kept his mouth shut. The fact of the matter is Carroll could take him back to court again because he slandered her again. He is a professional loser!
MineralMan
(150,133 posts)Now, his bluff has been called and he doesn't have the cards to support it. So, he loses. It's really simple.
If you can afford to do it, call the other guy's bluff. You'll often win the hand.
Trump's busted out of the game, I think. It might take a while for everyone to understand that, but this could well be the beginning of the end for Trump's run of luck.
calimary
(88,437 posts)I keep reminding myself of that old saying that nothing lasts forever. Thats actually kept me going during this entire trump nightmare.
Oopsie Daisy
(6,670 posts)* and his little mushroom garden.
MineralMan
(150,133 posts)Yes, indeed!
The_REAL_Ecumenist
(928 posts)AllaN01Bear
(27,935 posts)usaf-vet
(7,723 posts)You have been a a$$ your whole life.
You should be heading to debtor prison today.
You are evil beyond description.
samsingh
(18,208 posts)pretty clear he's a loser
pretty clear he lied about having $400 million in the bank
pretty clear why he's whining all the time
pretty clear why he's angry and a traitor
points
(42 posts)Deuxcents
(24,678 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(172,293 posts)Blue Owl
(57,854 posts)Martin68
(26,618 posts)His pain is so well-earned.
MineralMan
(150,133 posts)Baitball Blogger
(51,404 posts)The man has been a master of deception.
MineralMan
(150,133 posts)Former President Trump always!
louis-t
(24,521 posts)couple hundred million? He's not only a liar, he's a fucking liar.
malaise
(290,829 posts)Sometimes I wonder if Smelvis, tthe SF Slobfather doesn't laugh at the system because of how be has conned so many institutions and individuals for decades
Blue Idaho
(5,500 posts)Everybody pays to play. No exceptions.
usonian
(22,197 posts)without thinking it through?
malaise
(290,829 posts)usonian
(22,197 posts)
🚀 Rhymes with reptile.
spanone
(140,590 posts)ShazzieB
(21,940 posts)The Emperor has no clothes!

Niagara
(11,112 posts)Ray Bruns
(5,773 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(36,631 posts)
Niagara
(11,112 posts)cstanleytech
(28,020 posts)amount of cash on hand as of this moment but he could get it if he sold some of that real estate.
That's of course if he hasn't mortgaged the hell out of it in which case he is screwed and the thought of him being screwed like that makes me smile 😁
greymattermom
(5,801 posts)That is free and clear, no mortgage no liens. We're about to find out.
ProudMNDemocrat
(20,388 posts)
:large
Emperor Donnie Dipshit has no clothes or perceived wealth.
PatrickforB
(15,279 posts)Bear with me:
The world bore the horror of Trump's utter incompetence when he was President.
Trump's supporters became stochastic terrorists, and of course we saw this most plainly January 6.
Then the Carroll judgement, and the $90 million.
Then the $400 million bond he now cannot come up with.
Drip. Drip. Drip.
Now we have the dictator-for-a-day thing, the Putin can 'do anything he wants' thing, and the 'it will be a bloodbath' if he loses thing.
So now, just in time for the campaign, we see that Trump has installed Lara Trump as the chair of RNC, and she got rid of all their talent that had real institutional knowledge, and will funnel all the money to Trump's legal fees. The Republican grassroots organization has been imploding across many states.
This will starve down ticket Republican candidates. Add to this Trump's boast that he was instrumental in ending Roe v Wade, and we see two huge millstones around the collective GOP neck - lack of campaign funds, and abortion access.
In the meantime, we have ABC, conservative leaning ABC, pounding on the bloodbath deal. Biden running ads using Trump's own words against him. Much better messaging.
We also have increasing evidence that Trump may well be experiencing what is called 'fluid aphasia.' I suspect Trump will have some kind of breakdown that forces the GOP to elevate some other candidate, and they have very little real bench strength at this point.
Drip. Drip. Drip.
People are waking up, Mineral Man. Right leaning independents who have in the past thoughtlessly voted Republican are rethinking their position. They are waking up.
Establishment Republicans like Ken Buck (my Rep by the way) have been fleeing the shit show the GOP Congress has become. Liz Chaney has come out against Trump. Pence has publicly said he does not endorse Trump. They are waking up.
Women have awakened. LGBTQ people have awakened. Aside from a few vocal critics from the student-left and Dearborn, MI criticizing Biden's stance on the Israel-Hamas war (unjustly, to my mind, because Biden/Harris/Blinken are in fact pressuring Netanyahu, which is causing him to be further isolated, and increasingly likely to be thrown out of power).
And we have Biden actually walking a picket line. And did you see John Oliver's student debt episode? He sure gives Biden credit for forgiveness of billions in student debt.
The Bipartisan Infrastructure Law (BIL) has infused billions into states, and Biden is calling out GOP members of Congress who voted against it - BIL is bringing $6 billion into my state alone, in much needed funding to address infrastructure needs.
Bottom line, we do still need to get out the vote and do that work, but we as a party in are in better, stronger position than we have been in a long, long time.
I am optimistic, becuase I think Dems will sweep in 2024. Yes, GOTV is still hugely important, and everyone on here needs to do that, but...I'm optimistic.
4lbs
(7,395 posts)Dude claimed he was worth more than a billion dollars, making him a "billionaire".
He claimed his Mar-a-Lago (MAGA Lardo?) estate was north of a billion dollars alone. He did this to get favorable loan rates in NYC.
However, for tax purposes, he claimed only a few dozen million. He couldn't BS the IRS. He had to tell them the truth, no matter how much it hurt.
After all, the IRS is the one that helped put Al Capone in prison, not other parts of the government.
Claiming and grossly overvaluing property is the cornerstone of his NYC fraud case. Trying to cover up his real net worth is another court case against him.
So, he can no longer claim he is worth several billion, when all evidence and audits are to the contrary.
This latest stunt is a huge illustration of his huge net worth loss. Or actually, no real net worth anyhow. Trying to secure that nearly $500 million bond and having trouble convincing financiers to put up that much cash is a prime example of this fact. If he truly was a billionaire, he could simply put up the money himself. But no, again, he has to try to sucker... err... "get someone else" to pony up the cash. He hates to part with money.
Remember several years ago, trying to get him to pay up you needed a Texas-sized crowbar to pry his wallet open.
That's a lot of ketchup! No amount of KFC buckets, "hamberders", or gross-looking taco bowls, will assuage that skid mark.
In the 1990s and early 2000s, he used this tactic to great benefit, using inflated values to get favorable loans, buying up properties in NY and NJ to puff himself as a great and wise person, a real estate mogul, to people. Then, when it came time to actually "pay the piper", he declared bankruptcy, and left others holding the bag.
His many bankruptcies were shown for all to see, but that and not paying taxes, he said it simply made him smart.
Uhh... no. Stupid. Not smart.
Now, there are people saying they won't vote for him again, thanks, ok, but, my question to them is...
"WTF took you so long?"
Everything you are saying as a reason why now this time, he said pretty much the same crap in 2016 and 2020. But NOW it is too much? Mmmm-kay.
Gonna really put your money where your mouth is and vote for Biden in 2024, or are you gonna "pussy out" and vote for some other person?
IbogaProject
(5,354 posts)I'm looking forward when he is court compelled to certify under risk of perjury present an accurate and complete list all his assets and liabilities and then that gets published in the court record. We can have a field day with that all Spring and Summer and Autumn right up to the election.
