Just turned off msnbc again

[Marthe48]

If I wanted to hear inaccurate, untrue comments stated as fact, I'd turn on fox news. But I don't want to hear b.s. So no commentary until later today, if at all.

[Marcus IM]

1. What did you hear? n/t

[bullimiami]

2. Can someone, anyone, report the actual news? Or does everything have to be a damn show.

[Irish_Dem]

4. Americans must be entertained 100% of the time now.

So yes everything has to be a damn show.

[bullimiami]

16. "Americans" sure dont. "Some Americans" do but "Many Americans" would welcome an alternative.

[Irish_Dem]

17. Try watching TV and movies.

Joining various internet forums and groups.
Watching you tube videos.

You will see what I mean.

Most things are now presented only in childlike entertainment form.
Short entertaining sound bites.

Talk to undergraduate college professors.
They will tell you.

[ariadne0614]

34. I count on Free Speech TV (FSTV).

Stephanie Miller, Thom Hartmann, and Randi Rhodes cover my 9-5 ET news junky requirements.

[multigraincracker]

3. Cut my cable.

Don’t get MSNBC until late in the evening or next morning.

Working out ok.

[Marthe48]

7. I listen to it live on Tune In

I know most of the voices right now :/

[niyad]

5. A clue, Please?

[Tommy Carcetti]

6. Well, okay. nt

[MineralMan]

8. What are you talking about?

I've been watching it for an hour and a half and don't see any reason to stop. Please explain your post.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

9. I mute Eddie Glaude when he is on

[LenaBaby61]

12. I haven't listened to that clown Glaude ....

When he dogged Hillary in 2015, and said in so many words that there's 'little' difference between her and tRump

[SocialDemocrat61]

19. He should always be introduced as

Trump enabler Eddie Glaude.

[dmr]

56. Sometimes I do the same. When he's on, I usually check DU.

I thought it just me.

I've noticed, though, MSNBC doesn't have him on as often as they once did. I'm thankful for that.

As an aside: I dislike posts like this OP. If you can't give us context, please don't post at all.

[MOMFUDSKI]

10. I didn't like that a panel member said Joe

was as bad a candidate as orange clown. Pfffft

[ificandream]

14. That guy was a Republican.

Take it for what it is. One guy's (flawed) opinion. And he said both candidates were weak, not just Joe.

[Marthe48]

22. Thank you for understanding

That is what set me off. If the guy was trying to be helpful, he needs to go back to the drawing board.

[Marcus IM]

26. You could have noted that in your OP.

Just a thought.

[Marthe48]

33. I don't want to spread a statement that I think is untrue, unfair

disadvantageous to my candidate. But guess by omission, it lives :/

[MOMFUDSKI]

32. Rick Wilson who has now denounced the

Rethug party. But he just couldn’t help himself today.

[erronis]

11. This was a totally unhelpful, and perhaps trollish comment.

Without supplying information on what you were watching and the program that offended you, you are just doing the "throw the spaghetti" approach.

[Marthe48]

18. I actually don;t want to repeat the comment

and add another text that passes it on. If that's trolling, I'm guilty.

I listen on Tune-In, don't see faces, and don't recognize every voice. I got home, turned on my laptop, linked to Tune-In, and that was the first, only sentence I heard, shut it off.

I'm sorry to assume that everyone is tuned in to and in the same moment. Won't happen again.

[erronis]

35. Thank you for your response and caring to respond.

It's a hard environment where we all have to be correct all the time.

God knows I'm the biggest failure in that department!

[Marthe48]

36. I try to be precise

but I don't live up to the mark. But I really don't want to make a text that someone or something can use out of context.

[Marthe48]

13. The fill in for Nicole Wallace let it slide like it was a statement of fact

and not an opinion. I totally disagree and it is the kind of opinion and reaction that you'd expect to hear from a fox guest/host, but why let it pass unchallenged on msnbc?

The guest said that Biden was blah blah and sometimes voters want to get blah blah guy out of office even if the alternative is distasteful. I shut it off and I'm not dignifying the comment with a complete paraphrase here.

President Biden is about as weak as a lion on steroids. But when idiots like whoever it was get away with stating their opinion as fact and the host lets it pass, people not in President Biden's camp might think it's a true fact and bam, they get another vote for traitor, or kennedy, or a stay home, no vote at all.

I don't expect blind devotion to President Biden. It is sickening to see rwnj blindly accept their traitor leader. But, if I don't like something President Biden says or does, I don't jump on television and blather about it. And if I'm trying to advance my political or media career, I sure wouldn't dis the best hope this country has to defeat traitor with one hand and keep the country headed forward with the other.

What we have going on in this country and across the world is crazy and sometimes I let it get to me.

[ificandream]

29. The "fill-in" was Michael Steele, former RNC chair now an independent and co-host of MSNBC show

He's not given to allowing wild statements. But again, the speaker was a Republican. Pundits are there to give opinion. Doesn't mean we have to believe them. (And I don't. Not a pundit fan.)

[Raven123]

15. Honestly, i am watching very little MSNBC anymore.

Many of the hosts strike me as unprepared for the guests they invite. Do not ask questions that might be enlightening. Do not challenge their guests who opine based on who knows what data.

Just strikes me as lazy or incompetent. Very disappointing.

I don’t watch looking for confirmation of my own biases, although I know I am as limited as anyone. I do hope a host or guest has something informative or interesting. Too much of neither.

[senseandsensibility]

20. Yup

I agree

[usonian]

21. Marthe48 said it was BS.

Good enough for me. That's why I don't watch TV.

It takes only one asshole to ruin your entire day.

And there's such an abundance!

Peace, and DU!

[Marthe48]

23. Thanks

I will work on my manners

[DET]

24. You Take the Good, You Take the Bad...

The guest who made the offensive remarks is Republican Mike Murphy, political gadfly. The fill in host is Michael Steele, former Lt. Governor of Maryland and former RNC chair. I really like Michael Steele and he’s a credible host, but he’s no Nicole Wallace. Nicole would not have let Murphy’s remarks stand uncontested.

[Marthe48]

25. I recognized Michael Steele's voice

I don't know if I gain anything by listening to people formerly known as republicans discussing strategy on how to get their party back. I'd rather be hearing about what Dems are doing to GOTV.

[PatSeg]

39. Yeah, Mike Murphy has been around for a long time

He is a very old school republican political consultant. There was a time when I would have found him intolerable, but I suppose all things are relative and in today's Trump/MAGA environment, he almost seems reasonable. Nonetheless, he still is who he used to be, irritating and insincere. He's just not batshit crazy I suppose.

I wouldn't have expected a reasonable comment about Biden or Democrats, but it's not a huge deal. We rarely see him on TV anymore these days anyway.

[madamesilverspurs]

27. Fill-ins for Nicolle and Ari.

Here's hoping that Joy and Jen and Rachel aren't absent.


.

[QED]

28. I can't take too much of any of it. So sick of TFG and his schemes.

BTW, it looks like Melber is gone again. Still.

[GreenWave]

30. A lot of repugs will stampede off shows that call them out. So play chickens clucking as they leave.

It is their fault for what they say.

[pwb]

31. I watch the highlights of some cable news on You Tube

where I can skip the ads and chose what I like. It frees up my time. It sucks to watch in disappointment.

[SocialDemocrat61]

38. Maybe because in 2016

he publicly declared that he wouldn’t vote for Clinton, encouraging others not to and spent most of the year attacking her while hardly criticizing Trump.
https://time.com/4402823/glaude-hillary-clinton/

[SocialDemocrat61]

41. Because he enabled Trump

Doesn’t matter that he was in a blue state or not.

[Cha]

46. TY! It sure as hell didn't matter! No Excusing Eddie Gaude Jr.

Fucking TSF enabler.

Link to tweet

[Iggo]

43. Oh good gawd. Really?

[Cha]

45. It matters.. He Spewed it in Time Mag.. that's All Over.

[Cha]

47. Yeah like we can forget what that idiot and

people like jill stein and Sarandon's LIES did to get TSF in our WH. And Spread Fascism all Over Our Country.

Link to tweet

[LetMyPeopleVote]

60. Here is the Time article that Glaude is proud of

Please explain how you can support anyone who wrote this article?
 

Link to tweet

https://time.com/4402823/glaude-hillary-clinton/

I am not voting for Hillary Clinton, regardless of her endorsement by Bernie Sanders. My decision isn’t because of the scandal around her emails or because of some concern over her character. My reasons are pretty straightforward. I don’t agree with her ideologically.

Democratic values centered on economic and racial justice shape my own politics. I’m not convinced those values shape hers. Nothing Clinton says or intends to do if elected will fundamentally transform the circumstances of the most vulnerable in this country—even with her concessions to the Sanders campaign. Like the majority of Democratic politicians these days, she is a corporate Democrat intent on maintaining the status quo. And I have had enough of all of them.

What I find amusing is that somehow, Glaude got his byline taken of the above article

Link to tweet

Again, I muted Glaude when he was on today. I do not pay attention to this asshole

[lapucelle]

48. No one can accuse Professor Glaude of having the courage of his convictions.

After last year's Supreme Court decision that effectively ended affirmative action, Glaude's name and bio were removed from the Time magazine opinion piece.

This was then:

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https://archive.is/opS1o


This is now:

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Professor Glaude needs a bigger eraser. His name is still in the link to his asshattery now ascribed to a "Times Staff" byline.

https://time.com/4402823/glaude-hillary-clinton/

[Cha]

49. REC.. TY Lapucelle!!!

Brava!

[Cha]

44. Because the Big Mouth Blared Why he world Not Vote for Hillary in 2016

Link to tweet

He must be so fucking proud of himself.

[sheshe2]

50. Perhaps because this is Democratic Underground and we support Democrats._(ツ)_/

In a July 12, 2016 article for Time magazine, titled "My Democratic Problem with Voting for Hillary Clinton," Glaude stated that he would not be voting for 2016 U.S. Democratic Party presidential nominee Hillary Clinton. He wrote that he considered her a "a corporate Democrat intent on maintaining the status quo." Glaude's byline has since been removed from the article for unexplained reasons.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Glaude

Why oh why was his byline removed from that disgusting Time piece.

My Democratic Problem With Voting for Hillary Clinton

I am not voting for Hillary Clinton, regardless of her endorsement by Bernie Sanders. My decision isn’t because of the scandal around her emails or because of some concern over her character. My reasons are pretty straightforward. I don’t agree with her ideologically.

Democratic values centered on economic and racial justice shape my own politics. I’m not convinced those values shape hers. Nothing Clinton says or intends to do if elected will fundamentally transform the circumstances of the most vulnerable in this country—even with her concessions to the Sanders campaign. Like the majority of Democratic politicians these days, she is a corporate Democrat intent on maintaining the status quo. And I have had enough of all of them.

https://time.com/4402823/glaude-hillary-clinton/

[betsuni]

57. Wow, he's an idiot! Meaningless buzzword insults based on nothing at all.

[Cha]

62. Right.. A dangerous idiot.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

58. Glaude is an asshole who brags about voting against Hillary Clinton

This asshole bragged about voting against Hillary Clinton in 2016 and was happy when TFG won.

Link to tweet

Look at the company that Glaude is in

Link to tweet

All people who either endorsed Jill Stein, or said they were not voting because “Hillary was the same as Trump”:

Eddie Glaude
Rosario Dawson
Viggo Mortensen
Susan Sarandon
Oliver Stone
Colin Kaepernick
Isaiah Washington
Marc Lamont Hill

[betsuni]

61. Spectacularly stupid people.

[Iggo]

42. I recommend you leave it off this time.

[PJMcK]

51. My dear, Marthe48

Why do you keep watching MSNBC since it upsets you?

[Marthe48]

65. That's a good question

I read plenty of news on DU and I am grateful that so many people collect and share news stories. I guess I tune into msnbc to get a different slant on stories I read here.

I didn't have any temper tantrums listening to Rachel Maddow or Lawrence O'Donnell last night Guess that'll have to satisfy me for the week.

I think I picked up bad habits from my great aunt. My great aunt lived with us after she had a stroke and she'd absolutely rave at the television. We could hear her all through the house. And that was in the 1960s! I haven't had a stroke yet, but I'm skating on thin ice.

[PJMcK]

67. MSNBC's daytime programming is mostly unimpressive

Until Nicole Wallace comes on. From then through the evening, it's mostly watchable.

YouTube has become a viewing portal for me because I get to pick and choose from an endless catalog of videos.

Regardless, I'll keep reading your posts on DU!

[Marthe48]

68. Thank you

I don't watch any of the msnbc hosts until Nicole Wallace. It took me a long time to tune in to her, because of her r. background. But she reports news and comments on the stories. As for evening shows, I used to watch from 7-11, but not any longer. If I'm hyperalert because of current events, I'm not ready to sign a peace treaty with the political views that got us here. There may be a time in the future that I will look for things to agree on and move forward, just not right now. So when I tune in to that last media that I relied on to report and discuss from my side of politics, I can't help being very disappointed to hear them dis our side.

I rely on You Tube. I listen to old radio shows and watch history and science documentaries. I have a television, had it on the other day for the first time since last fall. Cut cable tv about 4 years ago.

[TexasDem69]

52. Having read through this thread

I still don’t understand what the OP was upset about. Can you provide some detail about the actual statement that caused you to turn off the news? Hard to discuss without that critical piece of info.

[Jack-o-Lantern]

53. Yes, the OP having made such a big deal over his dislike of something-or-other he heard on MSNBC,

and then not willing to say what exactly it was made reading this entire thing a waste of time.

[kimbutgar]

54. MSNBC in the daytime is repuke lite

Nor until Nicole, Ari, and Joy come on is it watchable. And after than it can suck you in for the rest of the night! But I only allow myself 2 hours a night.

[ForgedCrank]

55. Hold on,

let me find my crystal ball so I can figure out the context

[GP6971]

64. No, but you do. Bye!!

[John Shaft]

66. Um? Don't watch it?

[Bobstandard]

69. I too turned off MSNBC today

I had to go to the store.