Donald Trump will NOT be elected President.

[cayugafalls]

Americans are way to savvy.

Turdumpkin is broke and has 7 days to raise 500 million.
He just tapped on Manaforts shoulder...psst, hey buddy, can you talk to Vlad for me?
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The World Watched and Went WTF?


Every time I see some one who supports the dumpster fire of a human being, I will let them know that the whole world knows that he will not be anywhere near the oval office again and he will end up in prison.

Then just smile and wave goodbye.

I am going to take my optimism and run with it. Good night to all here at DU, I love you all and there will be peace if we all just continue to love, live and carry on the good fight.

Now, I need to go get some wipes for my keyboard as I hate typing that name.

[getagrip_already]

1. Being elected is not his only path to another term...

They are pursuing every option.

We must also.

[TexasDem69]

2. What other path does he have?

[getagrip_already]

3. House of representatives...

If either candidate fails to get 270 certified electoral votes, the house shall meet to elect the president and the senate shall elect the vice president.

Paraphrased.

How would that happen?

Third party candidates win a state or two. Or maybe chaos prevents states from certifying biden electors.

Whatever. If neither candidate gets 270, it goes to the house.

But constitutionally sound. Unfortunately, the way the system works, Republicans would get a majority of votes in the house and would choose the next president.

Basically, each state delegation of the new congress selects one rep to cast a vote. Because there will be more majority gop than dem delegations, they will choose the president.

[MiniMe]

4. I'm not sure tRumo would get a majority of R votes

You never know

[cayugafalls]

6. He will not be the resident again. I just feel it.

Yes, I am being optimistic tonight, but I have American history on my side.

I will refer back to General Smedley Butler who was tapped by the fascists to over throw the US government. He led them on and once they were all fully ensnared and committed he turned them in as the traitors they were.

I truly believe there is a General Butler out there right now willing to save our democracy should it come to that dire outcome.

[GreenWave]

26. Excellent point!

[cayugafalls]

5. I guess I should have said that despite the optimism we still need to VOTE MASSIVELY

for President Biden and work hard to get him elected, it is one of the reasons I feel optimistic, I'm retired and I do my part whatever little that is...

thank you for the valid input.

[ancianita]

12. What you're laying out is exactly what that Rolling Stone writer implied tonight on Rachel Maddow.

How across eight states,-- doesn't matter if they're battleground or other states -- the"2016 denier" election officials are already planning to refuse to certify.

[hueymahl]

19. This is a very real risk

Especially with RFK Jr. in the race.

[lees1975]

28. That's if the GOP can maintain its state majority in the face of redistricting

I'm not sure it's going to be as close as people think.

[Celerity]

40. It is not possible to drag the Rethugs under 26 (the minimum needed) state delegtions in the House due

to illegal gerrymandering in NC (which will go from a 7 - 7 draw to a 10 - 4 or even 11- 3 R advantage due to the new Rethug House map), FL, and WI.

I have been on this since I joined DU in summer 2018, and it simply is not going to happen.


State -------------- Representatives

The Retugs control 26 US House state delagtions now, and 27 after NC flips. Also it is possible (not probable though) they could gain control of one or more of the following delegations; (AK, MI, MN, PA, and/or VA)

Alabama 7 total (6 R, 1 D)
Alaska 1 total (1 D)
Arizona 9 total (6 R, 3 D)
Arkansas 4 total (4 R)
California 51 total (11 R, 40 D)
Colorado 8 total (3 R, 5 D)
Connecticut 5 total (5 D)
Delaware 2 total (2 D)
Florida 28 total (20 R, 8 D)
Georgia 14 total (9 R, 5 D)
Hawaii 2 total (2 D)
Idaho 2 total (2 R)
Illinois 17 total (3 R, 14 D)
Indiana 9 total (7 R, 2 D)
Iowa 4 total (4 R)
Kansas 4 total (3 R, 1 D)
Kentucky 6 total (5 R, 1 D)
Louisiana 7 total (6 R, 1 D)
Maine 2 total (2 D)
Maryland 8 total (1 R, 7 D)
Massachusetts 9 total (9 D)
Michigan 13 total (6 R, 7 D)
Minnesota 8 total (4 R, 4 D)
Mississippi 4 total (3 R, 1 D)
Missouri 8 total (6 R, 2 D)
Montana 2 total (2 R)
Nebraska 3 total (3 R)
Nevada 4 total (1 R, 3 D)
New Hampshire 2 total (2 D)
New Jersey 12 total (3 R, 9 D)
New Mexico 3 total (3 D)
New York 27 total (11 R, 16 D)
North Carolina 14 total (7 R, 7 D) (will flip to Rethug control)
North Dakota 1 total (1 R)
Ohio 15 total (10 R, 5 D)
Oklahoma 5 total (5 R)
Oregon 6 total (2 R, 4 D)
Pennsylvania 17 total (8 R, 9 D)
Rhode Island 1 total (1 D)
South Carolina 7 total (6 R, 1 D)
South Dakota 1 total (1 R)
Tennessee 9 total (8 R, 1 D)
Texas 38 total (25 R, 13 D)
Utah 4 total (4 R)
Vermont 1 total (1 D)
Virginia 11 total (5 R, 6 D)
Washington 10 total (2 R, 8 D)
West Virginia 2 total (2 R)
Wisconsin 8 total (6 R, 2 D)
Wyoming 1 total (1 R)

[Lonestarblue]

29. Election cheating and vote manipulation by Republicans at the local level.

All they have to do is manipulate the vote count is some key districts in swing states enough to get the Electoral College majority. The Republican elections officials in Arizona come to mind, especially in Maricopa County, as they have refused to recognize the legitimacy of any election a Democrat wins. Republicans broke into the offices of Coffey County, fortunately after the 2020 election, in the dead of night and copied all the voting records and perhaps more importantly the Dominion voting machine software. I’m sure those copies were then shared to other states with Dominion machines. What is to stop Republicans from sneaking into local offices after the machines have been tested and certified ready for the votes and modifying them to overcount Republican votes and undercount Democratic votes. Supposedly machines are sealed. Who will identify that they have been tampered with if Republicans are in charge? Sorry for being paranoid, but I think we trust Republicans far too much to do the right thing.

[Iwasthere]

32. Totally agree!

The machines

[All Mixed Up]

8. Enjoy your stay.

[BigmanPigman]

14. I wrote the same thing

and the D jury said I was stating "kooky or extremeist views".

[ancianita]

11. Totally agree.

[Joinfortmill]

13. Tup. Vote.

[Mr.Bee]

15. Lesson Learned, America!

Stop. Electing. Celebrities!

[Silent3]

16. "Americans are way to savvy"

I'll have some of what yer smokin'!

[cayugafalls]

24. tfg never won the popular vote.

The majority of Americans are intelligent enough to know the difference between a wannabe dictator and a President Biden.

[Silent3]

37. By slim enough a margin...

…that it remains clear we have a massive amount of ignorance, stupidity, and hateful attitudes in this country.

[cayugafalls]

38. Well, then bookmark this op...I stand by my optimism. That guy will never be pResident again.

I will gladly drive to anywhere in the country to let you smoke some of what I am having should my optimism not pan out.

However, I am certain that you will not be partaking of the kindness from my garden.

Unless of course, you want to stop by sometime...

[Silent3]

39. I'm slightly optimistic about Biden's chances

But even 5% odds of Trump being President again are terrifying. (See: downside risk).

Further, Biden winning still won't be enough to alleviate my disgust that so large a portion of the American public will vote for Trump after all they've had a chance to see. Winning doesn't magically erase that problem. Booking marking this OP has nothing to do with it.

[LudwigPastorius]

17. "Americans are way too savvy"

Yet, he has been the Republican nominee 3 straight times since 2015.

I won't breathe a sigh of relief until he is behind bars.

[cayugafalls]

25. He never won the popular vote.

I do not consider rethugs Americans anymore, but I digress.

I will sleep well as long as he is not the resident.

Optimism.

[elleng]

18. Savvy IF Americans receive decent/factual/accurate NEWS,

and I'm not at all sure that happens uniformly now; lots of BLATHER and propaganda.

[NanaCat]

20. 'Americans are way to {sic} savvy.'

LOL No they're not. This is a country with far more than its fair share of very stupid people.

[cayugafalls]

22. Thank you for your post. I understand you are not as optimistic.

I'm a little sad, my post was meant to lift spirits, not dash them.

As for the premise of intelligent enough Americans, I said I was being 'Optimistic'.

I also don't believe in stupid as a word used to cite levels of intelligence.

There is ignorance and low IQ, but 'stupid' is a derogatory word meant to insult, inflame and incite during a verbal confrontation and not meant to convey actual intelligence level.

I stand behind my premise. TFG will not be the resident again.

[malaise]

21. +1,000

You are correct

[cayugafalls]

23. Thank you, malaise.

[LuckyCharms]

27. I felt the same way in 2016.

And then, after the election, I vowed to never again underestimate the stupidity of the American people. Yes, I do mean stupidity.

But, I hope you're right this time.

[cayugafalls]

31. I remain faithfully optimistic due to so many alarms being rung.

If there was NO media coverage of his crazy, no indictments or a immunity ruling, then yes, I might be a little less optimistic.

But barring all that, I keep hearing my grand father in my head telling me about fighting fascists and how they had to stay optimistic in the face of terrible conditions.

They won.

So shall we.

[rso]

30. RSO

For those worried about state election officials in swing states not certifying the results, keep in mind that unlike in 2020, Arizona, Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania now have democratic Governors, Secretaries of State and AGs, so certification will not be an issue. And even in Georgia, both the governor and Secretary of State, though republicans, have a record of honesty when it comes to elections.

[DavidDvorkin]

33. Americans are just as savvy as voters in other democracies

Which is to say, not very, and only occasionally.

[Act_of_Reparation]

34. Americans are too savy?

I wonder if we're living on the same planet.

[cayugafalls]

36. I regret not quantifying my statement last night, it should have said 'most Americans'

because I do believe that 'most' Americans are intelligent enough not to vote for the orange one since he never once won the popular vote and this time he will lose even more voters.

I am an optimist and nothing will prevent me from being such, I do my part in the good fight locally and now that I am retired I am discussing doing more, but I need buy in from my better half.

[Blue Owl]

35. He can't afford to lose a single vote from his 2020 attempt

And he has been losing voters more and more....

Factor in his mental decline, his looming bankruptcies, and his unpopular stances on issues like immigrants and abortion, he has set himself up to fail spectacularly...