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senseandsensibility

(24,974 posts)
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 03:58 PM Mar 2024

Sounds like the sham impeachment hearing is full of bombshells

and Rs are looking like fools. Many of their claims have been exposed as Russian propaganda. Bill Barr has been implicated in the false claims.

My question is: why isn't this being shown on CNN and MSNBC? It's just as important to expose these lies to the American people as it was to show the real impeachment hearings against cheato. The people should see how low these rightwingers will go, and how intermeshed they are with Russian interests. That's important. That's newsworthy, don't you think?

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Sounds like the sham impeachment hearing is full of bombshells (Original Post) senseandsensibility Mar 2024 OP
Not only are they not covering it live senseandsensibility Mar 2024 #1
Yeah, you'd thihk M$m would be All Excieted about a Cha Mar 2024 #3
Weird, isn't it? senseandsensibility Mar 2024 #4
It's the Twilight Zone.. and Orwell's 1984. Cha Mar 2024 #9
NBC Nighty News with Lester Holt didn't get to the story B.See Mar 2024 #34
That's something I guess senseandsensibility Mar 2024 #35
Absolutely. Though for contrast, here's how FUX News handled it B.See Mar 2024 #37
Its all about the DiverDave Mar 2024 #44
I keep checking Google News. barbaraann Mar 2024 #2
Wow. senseandsensibility Mar 2024 #5
Yes NanaCat Mar 2024 #15
I do go to the google news site every morning and am consistently disappointed erronis Mar 2024 #30
Oh, I'll add that google (and everyone else) watches what sites/articles you look at. erronis Mar 2024 #31
I don't think so hurl Mar 2024 #42
MSNBC have it live on their youtube channel IcyPeas Mar 2024 #6
That's good to know but I wonder senseandsensibility Mar 2024 #7
Not that many people watch CNN and MSNBC Kaleva Mar 2024 #8
Doesn't explain the lack of coverage senseandsensibility Mar 2024 #10
And you KNOW you won't see it on the big networks RussBLib Mar 2024 #14
I haven't watched tv news in years Kaleva Mar 2024 #21
If my dad were still alive he would say MOMFUDSKI Mar 2024 #11
Alicia Menendez next segment on it RussBLib Mar 2024 #12
Glad to hear it senseandsensibility Mar 2024 #13
Fox does their spin afterwards. progressoid Mar 2024 #32
I had to turn it off... 2naSalit Mar 2024 #16
Did you turn it off during the R questioning? senseandsensibility Mar 2024 #17
Yes, both times. 2naSalit Mar 2024 #18
Argh! RussBLib Mar 2024 #19
Sorry that happened! senseandsensibility Mar 2024 #20
haha - transcription RussBLib Mar 2024 #23
Thank you so much! senseandsensibility Mar 2024 #24
Oh no! 2naSalit Mar 2024 #22
Fortunately I had recorded it RussBLib Mar 2024 #28
There are some good clips of dems in this thread, most short & to the point. CrispyQ Mar 2024 #39
Remember how the moniss Mar 2024 #25
That is a very good point senseandsensibility Mar 2024 #26
I saw that post also moniss Mar 2024 #29
And if HRC had left him they would have asked her, "Why couldn't you forgive him?" CrispyQ Mar 2024 #40
Eleven hours. niyad Mar 2024 #33
Unfortunately, yes. 2naSalit Mar 2024 #41
Remember how the moniss Mar 2024 #27
That's why these guys are cilla4progress Mar 2024 #36
That was great! liberalla Mar 2024 #43
You know at one time, this kind of testimony Johonny Mar 2024 #38

senseandsensibility

(24,974 posts)
1. Not only are they not covering it live
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 04:08 PM
Mar 2024

they're not leading with it either. I have only checked intermittently, but I don't know
if they are talking about it at all.

Cha

(319,076 posts)
3. Yeah, you'd thihk M$m would be All Excieted about a
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 04:11 PM
Mar 2024

Biden Impeachment hearing?!

Oh except when Lev Parmas is Throwing Truth Bombs.

senseandsensibility

(24,974 posts)
4. Weird, isn't it?
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 04:13 PM
Mar 2024

When the truth starts to come to light, it's time to look the other way I guess.

Cha

(319,076 posts)
9. It's the Twilight Zone.. and Orwell's 1984.
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 04:29 PM
Mar 2024

Hopefully Rachel and LO'D will talk about this Bombshell news Against the Fascists.

And, Thank Goodness for Social Media!

B.See

(8,503 posts)
34. NBC Nighty News with Lester Holt didn't get to the story
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 06:52 PM
Mar 2024

until 10 minutes into their half hour broadcast... after reports on a number of other stories and an Al Roker weather forecast.

But at least they did air Parnas' saying Repugnantcans enlisted him to find dirt on Joe Biden, he found absolutely none, and that the MAGA scum in Congress were essentially acting as treasonous agents of Putin.

senseandsensibility

(24,974 posts)
35. That's something I guess
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 06:56 PM
Mar 2024

But you know it would be otherwise if the hearing had gone bad for Biden!

B.See

(8,503 posts)
37. Absolutely. Though for contrast, here's how FUX News handled it
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 07:28 PM
Mar 2024
Watch: Fox News cuts off Lev Parnas as soon as he admits Russia is behind Biden smears

Fox News cut away from its coverage of a House hearing Wednesday as soon as one of the witnesses testified that Russia was behind allegations against President Joe Biden.

While the hearing was on impeachment, a much-talked-about topic at Fox News, the network did not spend much time covering it after Lev Parnas, a former associate of Rudy Giuliani and a witness called by the Democrats, began speaking.

"The American people have been lied to by Donald Trump, Rudy Giuliani, and various cohorts of individuals in government and media positions," he told the House Oversight Committee. "They created falsehoods to serve their own interests, knowing it would undermine the strength of our nation."

DiverDave

(5,245 posts)
44. Its all about the
Thu Mar 21, 2024, 12:56 AM
Mar 2024

Money. Right wing money is on the trump train.
And there is a boatload of money.

barbaraann

(9,289 posts)
2. I keep checking Google News.
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 04:10 PM
Mar 2024

Nothing in the top stories. Has the objectivity of the mainstream media been an illusion my entire life?

senseandsensibility

(24,974 posts)
5. Wow.
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 04:15 PM
Mar 2024

That's really amazing. You know that if there were any bombshells that implicated Biden we would be hearng about nothing else.

 

NanaCat

(2,332 posts)
15. Yes
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 04:36 PM
Mar 2024

Because, other than a brief spell in the 70s, the media has always had the backs only of the rich, the powerful and especially the white and conservative.

erronis

(23,880 posts)
30. I do go to the google news site every morning and am consistently disappointed
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 06:26 PM
Mar 2024

by their lack of important coverage. I'll see lots of stale 2+ day-old articles. Of course they don't let us select which sources since they know best.

Always looking for a better overall news aggregator.

erronis

(23,880 posts)
31. Oh, I'll add that google (and everyone else) watches what sites/articles you look at.
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 06:27 PM
Mar 2024

hurl

(1,051 posts)
42. I don't think so
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 07:56 PM
Mar 2024

Back when mainstream media was more unbiased, the rightwingers came up with the ingenious strategy to 'work the refs' and complain that the objective coverage was inherently biased against conservatives (because reality is, as we know, biased against conservatives). The end result was that networks became so afraid of being called by rightwingers biased against the whiners that they started this current both-sidesing trend that has diminished media from its traditional position as an adversarial watchdog to feeling the need to include minority views no matter how insignificant lest they be accused of bias.

Kaleva

(40,365 posts)
8. Not that many people watch CNN and MSNBC
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 04:29 PM
Mar 2024

Less then 5% of the adult population.

And many of those that do are or lean D or liberal already.

RussBLib

(10,635 posts)
14. And you KNOW you won't see it on the big networks
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 04:36 PM
Mar 2024

I mean, we should not preempt Judge Judy, Family Feud or Kelly Clarkson just because the GOP is being humiliated!!

https://russblib.blogspot.com/?m=1

Kaleva

(40,365 posts)
21. I haven't watched tv news in years
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 05:37 PM
Mar 2024

and yet I feel I'm well informed. I prefer reading and using multiple sources.

senseandsensibility

(24,974 posts)
13. Glad to hear it
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 04:34 PM
Mar 2024

I just saw that CNN is covering it but they are referring to shenanigans on both sides and not addressing the real issue, that the charges are false. And they're not live; Tapper is putting his spin on it.

progressoid

(53,179 posts)
32. Fox does their spin afterwards.
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 06:36 PM
Mar 2024

I watched about 15 minutes of The Five and saw some mind blowing spin. They have nothing but still scream about how corrupt Biden is. Even with no evidence.

2naSalit

(102,793 posts)
16. I had to turn it off...
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 04:51 PM
Mar 2024

Before the third minute so I would guess they thought too many would do the same. I bet tonight there will be plenty for the night crew to say after they have had time to digest it. And it's the middle of the day in the middle of the week, who is watching anyway? I'm waiting for this evening.

senseandsensibility

(24,974 posts)
17. Did you turn it off during the R questioning?
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 04:56 PM
Mar 2024

They can be very hard to take, but the Dems got some spectacular hits in. Those should be covered in the summaries of the hearing, but on CNN it was just more both siderism. But you're right, Lawrence will be good tonight.

2naSalit

(102,793 posts)
18. Yes, both times.
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 05:13 PM
Mar 2024

And when the two liars were lying. I don't have time for that so I'll wait, I'm patient.

I thought I could watch it but turns out...

RussBLib

(10,635 posts)
19. Argh!
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 05:20 PM
Mar 2024

...I just spent 20 minutes transcribing Charlie Syke's comments re the hearing (it was gold) and just as I was adding italics to the post, my wife texted me, and ah! Goddamit! Accidentally erased the whole thing! My own damn fat fingers fault. I was telling myself "use the computer!" But I stayed on the phone with those tiny buttons. Sigh. Not going to do it again!

Oh well. It was only 20 minutes out of my life.

RussBLib

(10,635 posts)
23. haha - transcription
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 05:56 PM
Mar 2024

What the hell, I used the computer this time. Much easier. Perhaps the PTB didn't want all those names and all that damning testimony to be seen by a wide audience.

from MSNBC, approx 3:48pm Central, 3/20/24

Alicia Menendez: "Charlie, it (the hearing) was a spectacle. I think we've come to expect a spectacle, and yet that doesn't make it any less disappointing because to the Congressman's point, there is actual work that they need to be doing for the American people, right? All of this comes at a price, not just to our politics but to the very essence of our democracy."

Charlie Sykes: "Well, yes, um, but I do have to say that what happened today was truly amazing, even by our standards. I mean, it is one thing to say that this thing is falling apart but, that actually understates how horrifically bad this is. I mean, this is Dumb and Dumber. Lev Parnas, um, coming out and just humiliating this Committee. Calling out by name Senator Ron Johnson, you know, Congressman Pete Sessions, uh, talking about the disinformation, how it comes from Russia. If there was even a LITTLE BIT of shame in James Comer's, uh, personality, they would have just completely turned off the lights and left the room and gone off to, I don't know, a retreat someplace. This was a, uh, you know, really, in one day, you encapsulated how absurd this was. And then, juxtapose it with the actual serious business in front of Congress. We're a few days away from a shutdown, and yet we have this incredibly inept circus going on. And so, it is a circus. We've talked about that before, but the ineptness, the absurdity was just on display. I mean, I just urge people, go, go watch a YouTube video of his (Parnas) testimony. Watch the way in which, uh, the Republican members of this Committee were humiliated, how they are flailing here. And, um, again, this is not going to get any better. The criminal referral is a kind of Hail Mary pass. It's a way of saying 'We're doing something.' Doesn't mean that it's not dangerous. A clown with a flamethrower still has a flamethrower. Uh, but, uh, this was a very bad day, um, after many many bad days for this Committee."

https://russblib.blogspot.com

senseandsensibility

(24,974 posts)
24. Thank you so much!
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 05:59 PM
Mar 2024

Love it, and sounds like Sykes got the big picture, unlike Menendez! Calling it a spectacle and moving on is not the way to cover this.

RussBLib

(10,635 posts)
28. Fortunately I had recorded it
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 06:16 PM
Mar 2024

So the transcription was easy on the computer. Those fucking tiny smartphone keyboard buttons!!! And the voice transcription didn't cut it.

I enjoyed it.

moniss

(9,056 posts)
25. Remember how the
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 06:07 PM
Mar 2024

TV coverage was for the 8+ hours of Hillary testifying over and over to the GQP "gotcha" questions about Benghazi?

senseandsensibility

(24,974 posts)
26. That is a very good point
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 06:10 PM
Mar 2024

Just add it to the list. The other day I read a good post on here about how Hillary was asked over and over why she didn't leave Bill during the Lewinsky thing, but Melania has never been asked why she didn't leave cheato.

moniss

(9,056 posts)
29. I saw that post also
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 06:22 PM
Mar 2024

and it is true. From the media perspective I remember when women were on panels giving their opinions as to what Hillary "should have done." I remember female anchors and reporters with their disapproving expressions and statements. Not a word for Melania.

I mentioned in an OP awhile back how the media and the political world tore apart Gary Hart during his campaign when the picture surfaced of his "girlfriend" sitting on his lap on a boat. Basically put the scarlet A on him for his marital infidelity and ended his political career for the most part. Torn to shreds by the same people who had many in their ranks doing the same thing but yet being protected by the very same ones howling the loudest.

CrispyQ

(40,969 posts)
40. And if HRC had left him they would have asked her, "Why couldn't you forgive him?"
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 07:38 PM
Mar 2024

They'll never hold repubs to the same standard, but the media really had it out for HRC, for many, many years. It was disgustingly misogynistic & unprofessional.

moniss

(9,056 posts)
27. Remember how the
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 06:13 PM
Mar 2024

number one topic for air time in 2016 was the e-mails of Hillary? No other topic got more air time. Not even close. Despite being cleared. And then came Comey.

liberalla

(11,089 posts)
43. That was great!
Thu Mar 21, 2024, 12:43 AM
Mar 2024

Don't they know how silly they look? I don't understand how they can keep going... it's ridiculous!

Johonny

(26,178 posts)
38. You know at one time, this kind of testimony
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 07:31 PM
Mar 2024

Would end careers. Now a days, the GOP has zero ethical standards so it won't change a darn thing.

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