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NoRethugFriends

(3,772 posts)
Mon Mar 25, 2024, 09:44 AM Mar 2024

a concern for the case where Biden is reelected

If Trump has deteriorated even more, or even if he hasn't is it possible that nice guy Joe would pardon him for federal crimes.

It will be totally horrendous and totally wrong, but I can see the possibility of Biden doing it and thinking he's taking the high road and doing what he thinks is best for the country.

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a concern for the case where Biden is reelected (Original Post) NoRethugFriends Mar 2024 OP
No. Bettie Mar 2024 #1
I don't think so, Biden is a nice guy, but he's a human being and his mother was Irish Walleye Mar 2024 #2
There's zero chance of Biden pardoning Trump. TwilightZone Mar 2024 #3
I think Biden's instinct lean to reconciliation and collaboration, but.... Happy Hoosier Mar 2024 #4
He has never indicated he would do such a thing, in fact just the opposite JohnSJ Mar 2024 #5
I will hit the MEGA lottery twice before that happens. nt doc03 Mar 2024 #6
Nope. Not going to happen. Biden lived through the Ford pardon and realizes that enabled a Trump. hlthe2b Mar 2024 #7
Great lesson from the Ford Administration. marble falls Mar 2024 #11
I do not think for a moment that Joe Biden would commute TFG's sentences or pardon him for a thing ... marble falls Mar 2024 #8
Even Joe Biden has his limits... ProudMNDemocrat Mar 2024 #9
Good thought.... SergeStorms Mar 2024 #10
Is this an attempt to make a case sarisataka Mar 2024 #12
no of course it is not NoRethugFriends Mar 2024 #22
I for one will keep my towel at hand sarisataka Mar 2024 #24
No and not a chance PCIntern Mar 2024 #13
I have always love Joe Biden...since he 80's. I worked all of his campaigns... Demsrule86 Mar 2024 #32
I suspect not. Raven123 Mar 2024 #14
President Biden BlueKota Mar 2024 #15
I don't have that impression of Joe Biden at all. yardwork Mar 2024 #16
Even with stinky gone there are still way too many traitors left in the system cutroot Mar 2024 #17
He might posthumously pardon Charles Manson or pick Kasich for VP TxGuitar Mar 2024 #18
My concern right now is making sure Biden is reelected. All Mixed Up Mar 2024 #19
of course it isn't. NoRethugFriends Mar 2024 #23
You can count on President Joe Biden. He mentioned the north star in the SOTU... Demsrule86 Mar 2024 #27
Well I'm just hoping we get to the point where we can find out if he does or doesn't. All Mixed Up Mar 2024 #29
Biden is old enough to remember President Ford Emile Mar 2024 #20
No. MiHale Mar 2024 #21
Nope. Tommy Carcetti Mar 2024 #25
No, not possible. Demsrule86 Mar 2024 #26
Even nice guys can have a sense of civic duty to leave a historic lesson untouched. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2024 #28
No. Just no. n/t elocs Mar 2024 #30
I don't see that happening peggysue2 Mar 2024 #31
Why are you creating anger about stuff that hasn't happened and will not happen? No offence, why would you make up some emulatorloo Mar 2024 #33
You are making stuff up. NoRethugFriends Mar 2024 #34
Nope, you're insinuating Biden is going to pardon Trump with ZERO basis in fact. emulatorloo Mar 2024 #35
I am not insuating anything. Read the damn post. NoRethugFriends Mar 2024 #36

Walleye

(45,292 posts)
2. I don't think so, Biden is a nice guy, but he's a human being and his mother was Irish
Mon Mar 25, 2024, 09:46 AM
Mar 2024

He’s also a lawyer who wants to see justice done

Happy Hoosier

(9,592 posts)
4. I think Biden's instinct lean to reconciliation and collaboration, but....
Mon Mar 25, 2024, 09:48 AM
Mar 2024

... he's not an idiot. He has seen what and who the modern GQP is.

This bat-shit crazy movement won't end with a Trump defeat in 2024. I think there is every chance that Trump tries again in 2028, even if they prop him up "Weekend at Bernie's" style.

hlthe2b

(114,457 posts)
7. Nope. Not going to happen. Biden lived through the Ford pardon and realizes that enabled a Trump.
Mon Mar 25, 2024, 09:51 AM
Mar 2024

I personally adore Biden. Others may not. But what he is not, is stupid. He's both lived history and LEARNED from it--an issue near and dear to my heart, Santayana's, and my sig line.

marble falls

(72,453 posts)
8. I do not think for a moment that Joe Biden would commute TFG's sentences or pardon him for a thing ...
Mon Mar 25, 2024, 09:55 AM
Mar 2024

... and he shouldn't.

ProudMNDemocrat

(20,974 posts)
9. Even Joe Biden has his limits...
Mon Mar 25, 2024, 09:56 AM
Mar 2024

The correct thing would be let God handle this. TSF's soul is already going to suffer the fires of hell.

SergeStorms

(20,763 posts)
10. Good thought....
Mon Mar 25, 2024, 09:56 AM
Mar 2024

ɓut I don't think Biden would throw a wrench into the wheels of justice.

I can't imagine any Democrats asking him to do it either.

sarisataka

(22,779 posts)
12. Is this an attempt to make a case
Mon Mar 25, 2024, 10:00 AM
Mar 2024

for not voting for Biden?

On the list of things to worry about, this is a few places below finding out the Earth is scheduled to be demolished to make way for a new hyperspace bypass.

NoRethugFriends

(3,772 posts)
22. no of course it is not
Mon Mar 25, 2024, 11:12 AM
Mar 2024

And that hyperspace byway is not going to happen. The supreme Court ruled it would be unfair to all preborn children on Earth. So no need for your towel

PCIntern

(28,539 posts)
13. No and not a chance
Mon Mar 25, 2024, 10:02 AM
Mar 2024

Biden plays a nice guy on tv. He’s a feeling person I have no doubt.

He was also the senator from the most ruthlessly corporate state in the union for over 40 years. He knows where all the bodies are buried and is not tolerant of those who attacked his family members, both living and dead. I would not fuck with him.

Demsrule86

(71,554 posts)
32. I have always love Joe Biden...since he 80's. I worked all of his campaigns...
Mon Mar 25, 2024, 11:34 AM
Mar 2024

including the presidential one in the 80's where he was smeared. Biden is a good person as many have noted. My sister played around with the GOP during the Bush years. And one time she called me and said she had switched her registration back to 'D'. This was when Hillary was in the Senate and it was an all-nighter, I don't remember the details. No one could go home. Biden wanted to send the older Senators home...I know Thurmond was one of them and maybe Byrd...can't remember. There were others of course.

Sis called his office to express her approval and got Biden on the phone. He answered his phone! They discussed how important it was not to be uber-partisan and have compassion. My sis was very impressed and has voted a straight Dem ticket since then. She was so impressed. But don't kid yourself when necessary, he can be very ruthless. He got the only gun safety bill and the violence against women through the Senate by a combination of twisting arms and a charm offensive.

Raven123

(7,875 posts)
14. I suspect not.
Mon Mar 25, 2024, 10:09 AM
Mar 2024

People like to frame TFG like Nixon. Nixon had plenty of supporters, but as far as I am aware he didn’t direct anyone to violence. He knew enough to maintain secrecy about his crimes, and pretty much stepped away from the spotlight. TFG supports insurrection, tried to keep Biden out of office after he lost the election and has inspired a movement that no presidential act can suppress. I doubt that he would do the work of the GOP. This is their monster.

BlueKota

(5,525 posts)
15. President Biden
Mon Mar 25, 2024, 10:10 AM
Mar 2024

I believe is a very intelligent man, who knows that pardoning someone who encouraged an insurrection, would just open the door wider, for more want to be dictators to attempt it.

That's why I feel like of course beating Donald the Traitor Trump at the ballot box is essential, but making sure he is held criminally responsible to the fullest extent of the law is also key. If he faces zero legal consequences what deterrent is there from him or any other power hungry ass, from trying again?

President Biden I think gets that, but I'm not sure some others do.

cutroot

(1,026 posts)
17. Even with stinky gone there are still way too many traitors left in the system
Mon Mar 25, 2024, 10:25 AM
Mar 2024

I could see some kind of deal He could flip on them all and reveal them so they could be removed and punished. Senators and congressmen included. Bad judges lobbyists. Even a few influential billionaires

TxGuitar

(4,353 posts)
18. He might posthumously pardon Charles Manson or pick Kasich for VP
Mon Mar 25, 2024, 10:30 AM
Mar 2024

or a safe could fall from the sky and hit me in the head today.
Why borrow trouble?

 

All Mixed Up

(597 posts)
19. My concern right now is making sure Biden is reelected.
Mon Mar 25, 2024, 10:38 AM
Mar 2024

Because that isn't a guarantee at this point.

NoRethugFriends

(3,772 posts)
23. of course it isn't.
Mon Mar 25, 2024, 11:14 AM
Mar 2024

It's just that everything political is so Topsy turvy now that's hard to really count on anything, even things that seem obvious.

Demsrule86

(71,554 posts)
27. You can count on President Joe Biden. He mentioned the north star in the SOTU...
Mon Mar 25, 2024, 11:21 AM
Mar 2024

He is steadfast and will not allow Trump an undeserved pardon.

 

All Mixed Up

(597 posts)
29. Well I'm just hoping we get to the point where we can find out if he does or doesn't.
Mon Mar 25, 2024, 11:25 AM
Mar 2024

Wondering whether Biden will pardon Trump in his second term is a bridge too far at this point.

peggysue2

(12,568 posts)
31. I don't see that happening
Mon Mar 25, 2024, 11:31 AM
Mar 2024

Joe Biden is a good man, forgiving, yes. But we're into national security concerns with Donald Trump, as well as what he hoped to do on J6. This is far beyond Nixon's actions and/or behavior while serving in office.

The head of this snake needs to be nailed to the wall, otherwise the rule of law means nothing.

emulatorloo

(46,155 posts)
33. Why are you creating anger about stuff that hasn't happened and will not happen? No offence, why would you make up some
Mon Mar 25, 2024, 12:37 PM
Mar 2024

thing out of whole cloth to get DU’ERS mad over nothing? What is the point?

NoRethugFriends

(3,772 posts)
34. You are making stuff up.
Mon Mar 25, 2024, 04:12 PM
Mar 2024

I am not creating anger.l I am expressing a concern given all the crazy things that have happened in politics over the previous years. TSF skating today another example.
I do not expect Biden would do this, and I like him a lot.

emulatorloo

(46,155 posts)
35. Nope, you're insinuating Biden is going to pardon Trump with ZERO basis in fact.
Mon Mar 25, 2024, 04:18 PM
Mar 2024

You are clearly the one “making stuff up.”

Stop projecting what you’re doing onto others.




NoRethugFriends

(3,772 posts)
36. I am not insuating anything. Read the damn post.
Mon Mar 25, 2024, 05:15 PM
Mar 2024

I am expressing a possible, but unlikely concern

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