It's becoming obvious to more and more people that TSF has to quit the race or he will be

[wiggs]

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replaced. Verbally and physically he is declining at a rapid pace. Stress? At some point he'll reach a tipping point for even people willing to give him the benefit of the doubt (does not include Maga die hards). I imagine the GOP and their big-deal donors, who are terrible people but not stupid, already have a plan B. I doubt they will continue to waste time and money on someone who is flailing to keep up appearances. Insiders and family probably know more than we do.

It's not just this one article (and Rawstory, like Fox on the other side, has an agenda) but this time it's his walking motion getting attention from experts. I've noticed that too in clips.

The plug is going to get pulled. So what's their plan B? Convention crisis and replacement? How do they keep him from burning down the GOP and GOP leaders that he has dirt on? Will he become crazy enough that they'll be safer because no one will take him seriously soon?

replaced rawstory link with original article: https://www.salon.com/2024/03/26/hastening-his-deterioration-dr-john-gartner-on-impact-of-trials-on-trumps-fragile-brain/

[cloudbase]

1. It's ride or die with TSF.

The party can handle losing the election, but they can't handle the backlash if he's not the candidate.

[bullimiami]

26. I think that's right. They are more willing to lose the election than to go against maga.

[WarGamer]

2. That's literally UFO's, Bigfoot, Flat Earth and Pyramids are really spaceships wrapped up in a political article

[leftieNanner]

3. A good friend of mine

Died of FTD combined with a form of Parkinsonism. Age 67. Her decline was awful to watch.

[RainCaster]

4. There is no Plan B- the RNC is all in for TSF

Until you hear it from the normal conservative outlets like The Hill, or WSJ, it aint gonna happen. Just my opinion. Seeing this stuff on liberal sites doesn't mean anything to conservatives. Once their Trusted News Sources proclaim it, then it's worth discussing.

Here, we all agree he's not fit for office, but we said that back in 2016.

[Xavier Breath]

7. I believe you meant RNC

but I agree that there isn't enough momentum for such a move from high enough places for this to happen, at least not now. Let him have some major physical issues between now and the convention and perhaps that will change.

[RainCaster]

9. You're right- fixed it

[Xavier Breath]

11. Meh, I knew what you meant of course.

I've said Trump when I meant Biden or vice versa more than once.

[global1]

14. Do You Think That Tr**p Sensed That He Might Be Dumped & That's Why His DIL Is Now.....

part of the RNC?

Did he place his Daughter In Law in the RNC to make sure that there would be no movement to replace him as the Repug nominee?

[PJMcK]

16. I think it was about the money

Lara, totally incompetent, has said the RNC’s money will go to Trump’s campaign.

‘Nuff said.

[wiggs]

17. ...and also to drain the RNC of money. nt

[Think. Again.]

31. Which is a nice bonus.

[RainCaster]

37. He installed her to enforce his grift

This is all my opinion, and I'm just a hopeful Dem.

The RNC will NEVER replace him, they are too afraid of what his base will do to all their down-ballot races. However, it's too late, the die is cast. The RNC is destined for a major blue wave this fall.

[bullimiami]

29. He took over the RNC. So they are just a tool now.

Pointless to speak of what the “RNC” wants.

[Kennah]

30. It's true. The GOOP does not believe in Levonorgestrel.

[Diamond_Dog]

5. He will be their candidate

Even if they have to wheel him out on stage strapped to a dolly in a straight jacket.

[sprinkleeninow]

38. I just edited my post to say similar b4 reading yours!

[Diamond_Dog]

39. Great minds!

[sop]

6. Trump will never step aside graciously, replacing him would be an ugly, brutal fight with no winners.

The MAGA base would be up in arms. They'd stay home in November, or vote for Trump as a write-in choice. Down-ballot Republicans will lose if the MAGA base stays home, and the GOP knows it.

[wiggs]

20. if it looks like he loses in november his next best hope to stay out of jail is to drop out and

endorse another maga crazy who will pardon him. A self pardon is questionable anyway.

His disordered brain may think he's the best at everything, but his only genius may be self-preservation and promotion that may lead to a better decision than losing badly. His pathologies and fears couldn't handle that loss.

[sop]

25. I could see him making a pardon deal with DeSantis or Haley in return for his support.

[RockRaven]

8. Explain how that "be replaced" part works... What's the procedure, what

rules govern it, and who are the people that you think will take the necessary actions?

[wiggs]

18. Brokered convention perhaps. Each convention makes its own rules so who knows who will step up nt

[limbicnuminousity]

24. First, dig up Reagan's corpse....

but no, Reagan would be too woke for this crowd.

[FakeNoose]

10. The signs of Chump's dementia have been evident for years

One thing is very telling: his father had dementia in his later years also. Not all forms of dementia are genetically passed down through generations, but FTD is one form of dementia that is genetic. FTD parents have a 50/50 chance of passing the Tau gene to their children. Each baby born to that parent has a 50/50 chance of getting the Tau gene because it's dominant. Onset of symptoms can be as early as age 40, but more likely to start in mid-to-late 50's.

[Hekate]

12. No one in his entire dysfunctional family is capable of the courage & love it would take ...

…to persuade or force him to retire from public view.

No one anywhere can, or will. The former GOP has rotted itself hollow in service to Trump and Trumpism. MAGA! They apparently have no Plan B — they are trying to destroy our democratic republic from within.

The rest of us can only stand witness to this travesty, and meanwhile work and plan for his and MAGA’s demise.

[Silent3]

13. The article you link to says nothing about Trump quitting or being replaced

It only notes his ongoing cognitive and physical decline.

We can HOPE that his decline becomes steep enough even his sycophants and enablers can't ignore it any longer, but he'll need to be drooling, not even slightly articulate, and pulling off his pants in public before those people give up hope.

[wiggs]

19. candidate replacement is just my opinion, of course. nt

[0rganism]

15. Uh... no

Dementia or not, he'll be the candidate. He has to win, to secure his brand by pardoning himself and his associates, and by replacing as much of the judiciary as necessary to consolidate his position.

Note that I'm not saying he needs to be elected. I'm now convinced TSF does not plan to win through the democratic process. He just has to have enough shenanigans go his way to win the electoral college by hook or (mostly) by crook. Disqualify Biden-Harris elector certifications, replace them with his own slates of cronies.

He doesn't need to spend another minute campaigning to accomplish this.

[jcgoldie]

21. not gonna happen

If the GOP pulls the rug out from under Trump the magas will revolt and they lose half their base up and down the ticket and swept out of congress and statewide elections. They want those loony Trumpers to show up even if it costs them the presidency again.

[wiggs]

22. Apparently lots of people from both parties look at TSF and see strength, at least durable political strength. I think

that changes in the next 7 months. And the RW machine will have to do something about that other than pouring more money and time into it. My opinion.

[wiggs]

23. This Salon article, also, doesn't talk about quitting but talks about how the health issue is

just getting started. Published today.

https://www.salon.com/2024/03/26/hastening-his-deterioration-dr-john-gartner-on-impact-of-trials-on-trumps-fragile-brain/

Your petition at Change.org is gaining momentum. What is happening?

This subject was once forbidden in the press. If you searched online for Trump and dementia, as I began to do ten times a day, you wouldn’t find one article asking, Does Trump have dementia? The words dementia and Trump never appeared in the same sentence, anywhere. Instead, there were articles about President Biden’s memory and whether he was “too old.” Or pieces that quoted doctors saying we can’t know anything about either candidate’s cognitive health from what we see on TV.

But thanks to the petition, we’re breaking through. Newsweek has reported on it. And for the second week in a row, Jennifer Rubin praised Salon in her Washington Post column for breaking this story: “Salon, one of the few outlets to take Trump’s cognitive decline seriously, displayed this headline: “‘Experts are desperate to warn the public’: Hundreds sign Dr. John Gartner’s Trump dementia petition.” The article’s description reads, “They see the signs of Trump’s cognitive decline through the eyes of years of training and experience.” That succinctly spelled out the basic facts surrounding a petition signed by hundreds of mental health professionals, pointing to obvious signs of Trump’s mental dysfunction.”

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If Donald Trump’s behavior continues to decline in an obvious way to the point where it can no longer be denied, will his MAGA followers leave him? Will seeing their personal superhero and god made mortal break the psychological adhesion?

I don’t think it will separate him from his followers. Their cultish idealization of him is an addictive drug. As long as Trump can spew hate, and do a funny little dance on stage, his followers will be satisfied, even if he’s so disoriented that he doesn’t actually know where he is. The people who can be influenced are independents and Republicans who voted for Nikki Haley. The election may come down to their gut feeling about which candidate is “stronger.” Trump gives the appearance of strength with his hypomanic bluster and braggadocio, but he is cognitively weak and closer than you might think to being completely disabled.

[berksdem]

27. Uh, no.

They will ride w him off the edge of the flat earth. Full stop.

[Emile]

28. His dad had dementia 8 years before he died.

I wonder what year Donald is on now. .

[NanaCat]

35. His father lived to be 93

For an old guy, he was in reasonably good health and seemed plenty sharp at TFG's current age. He wasn't of the junk food generation, which probably made it easier to maintain a healthy weight. I don't think he smoked or drank and it's doubtful he abused drugs. Also didn't have a high-risk sex life that anyone knows of. All of that undoubtedly improved his longevity.

Dim Son is nearly the polar opposite of that, save for the drinking and smoking. Living an unhealthy lifestyle will definitely accelerate any tendencies toward dementia.

[Kennah]

32. It's gonna be

[mercuryblues]

33. They have no choice but to stick with

TSF.

A brokered convention would be worse than a cage match.

Nikki stayed in so she could have the most electoral votes. So she could claim the throne. Now you know those big burly men folk on the right is not going to let "no female foreigner " be on the golden ticket.

If a brokered convention happens, we could get eliminate the national debt if it was on Pay Per View.

[republianmushroom]

34. If he quits does the RNC still pay his legal bills if he may quit, but, if not he will not quit.

The party is his.

[sprinkleeninow]

36. "Keeping Up Appearances"

Gonna stay in n run unless nature/heaven has other intent.
They'll roll him around onna dolley or front-end loader if need be.
They too heavily invested in 'him'.
My opinion but, wut dew eye no. 🤭

[lindysalsagal]

40. THAT LINK JUST UNLEASHED NASTY MALWARE. Please pull down that link!

The pop-ups made the article unreadable, anyway.

[themaguffin]

41. He owns the party. They are stuck with TFG

[mike_c]

42. the politics of grievance PREFERS a dysfunctional executive

TFG is a raging bull in a china shop of civil institutions. That's exactly what they want.