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Orrex

(63,457 posts)
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 09:49 PM Mar 2024

Met a 70-something white man today

In declining health, uses a wheelchair most of the time. By his own assertion he lives on full disability and hasn't worked in 20+ years.

And he would not fucking shut up about immigrants taking all the jobs.

I had to interact with him for close to an hour, and he started on his rant about 10 seconds after I got there, and he continued uninterrupted until I shut the door as I was leaving.

Once or twice he complained about how hard it is for him to renew his benefits, but "illegals cross the border and get all kinds of government handouts."

Well, at least we can guess where he gets his material.


What continues to astound me about Reichwing racist asshats isn't that they exist, but that they invariably assume that everyone agrees with them. At least, everyone in the "correct" demographic, of course.

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Met a 70-something white man today (Original Post) Orrex Mar 2024 OP
Someone tried that with me...I stood up to him...he shut up! Karadeniz Mar 2024 #1
I was, let us say, a captive audience Orrex Mar 2024 #7
I worked at a radiation cancer treatment center duhneece Mar 2024 #29
Hit #71 today. Kill me if I ever become like that person. OAITW r.2.0 Mar 2024 #2
HAPPY BIRTHDAY My Friend BOSSHOG Mar 2024 #4
I have the same request Orrex Mar 2024 #8
Older I get, the more left I am. OAITW r.2.0 Mar 2024 #20
Very well put! Prof. Toru Tanaka Mar 27 #37
Wishing you a very Happy Birthday, and a wonderful coming year. niyad Mar 2024 #16
Well, Happy Birthday. LoisB Mar 2024 #17
A birthday wish from me. pandr32 Mar 2024 #19
Thanks for the kind words! OAITW r.2.0 Mar 2024 #22
Yes, happy birthday and many more! Nt spooky3 Mar 2024 #31
I turn 74 DAY AFTER tomorrow! ShazzieB Mar 2024 #24
Backatcha! OAITW r.2.0 Mar 2024 #26
Happy birthday in a few minutes! Nt spooky3 Mar 2024 #32
Actually it's another 24 hours! ShazzieB Mar 27 #38
Happy Birthday FHRRK Mar 28 #46
💐🫶🏽💐 blm Mar 2024 #25
Happy Birthday, OAITW! calimary Mar 27 #35
I hit 72 last week. Count me in, too. DFW Mar 28 #47
I suspect a dementia epidemic Ponietz Mar 2024 #3
Dementia caused by Faux Noise and Hate Radio FakeNoose Mar 2024 #10
Many young farts think the same Ponietz Mar 2024 #15
I think you're on to something. Seriously. harumph Mar 2024 #21
I think that Republicans, in every State of the Union, are hoping they get 1 more cycle before they implode. OAITW r.2.0 Mar 2024 #27
Attacking public health started with Reagan Ponietz Mar 27 #40
I wonder if his caretakers are all white native-borns viva la Mar 2024 #5
I suspect that he edits his commentary to suit the perceived audience Orrex Mar 2024 #9
Washington county MotownPgh Mar 2024 #18
Welcome to the DU. A really good place for a kind person like you 🤗 Deuxcents Mar 2024 #33
LOL, he's voting for and supporting the exact people who FSogol Mar 2024 #6
IKR? Orrex Mar 2024 #11
Wrong demographic. usonian Mar 2024 #12
I guess from your post you had to stay and take the abuse to finish your job. The geezer must have really mitch96 Mar 2024 #13
It always blows my mind that they have no idea of the power dynamic at play Orrex Mar 2024 #34
Sorry you have to put up with that stuff. At least you run into fellow liberals, as well. electric_blue68 Mar 28 #44
I would have said Beachnutt Mar 2024 #14
I'm 70 and I'm as white as Opie Taylor. Mr.Bill Mar 2024 #23
I feel it's because odins folly Mar 2024 #28
My sister-in-law . . . AverageOldGuy Mar 2024 #30
I'm 73. Turbineguy Mar 27 #36
I'm 75. murielm99 Mar 27 #39
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 27 #41
Are you always so polite?? GP6971 Mar 27 #42
Take your own advice. Cha Mar 27 #43
On rare occasions as a white woman I've had racist comments said to me by men... electric_blue68 Mar 28 #45
Ugh. I'm sure that the dynamic is much worse for women Orrex Mar 28 #48

Orrex

(63,457 posts)
7. I was, let us say, a captive audience
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 10:05 PM
Mar 2024

And I didn't have the option of telling him to stuff it.

(Not out loud, anyway)

duhneece

(4,161 posts)
29. I worked at a radiation cancer treatment center
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 11:26 PM
Mar 2024

As a patient gets therapy every day for weeks, I got to know their spouse or family or friends who brought them.
Some spouted such nonsense but I couldn’t really say anything that sounded argumentative.
I was beside myself and my stomach would clench…..
Eventually I learned to smile really big and say, “Oh, I see that differently.”

BOSSHOG

(37,474 posts)
4. HAPPY BIRTHDAY My Friend
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 10:01 PM
Mar 2024

I echo your sentiment. I’m 14 months your younger. That person is sad and lonely and full of hate because of only one person. Himself.

Orrex

(63,457 posts)
8. I have the same request
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 10:06 PM
Mar 2024

I feel like I'm well-insulated against it, because I grow considerably more Left as I age.

Many of my former classmates have drifted steadily rightward over the years, though. It's baffling and infuriating.

OAITW r.2.0

(25,325 posts)
20. Older I get, the more left I am.
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 10:44 PM
Mar 2024

An organized crime party that has no platform buys into a criminal presidency....that blows my mind.

Prof. Toru Tanaka

(2,078 posts)
37. Very well put!
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 12:24 AM
Mar 27

I’ve shifted further left over the years, also. Working a union job (APWU) for decades and reading material like Mother Jones and Jim Hightower has educated me.

ShazzieB

(17,051 posts)
24. I turn 74 DAY AFTER tomorrow!
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 11:13 PM
Mar 2024

Last edited Wed Mar 27, 2024, 12:34 AM - Edit history (1)

(Got the date wrong when I posted, yeesh!)

Happy Birthday to both of us!

And ain't it great to know that not all of us "old fogies" are buying what FoxNoise and the GOP are selling!

OAITW r.2.0

(25,325 posts)
26. Backatcha!
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 11:18 PM
Mar 2024

If I have spent 3 minutes on Fox or alt RW sites over the past 30 years, it wasn't on purpose.

DFW

(54,973 posts)
47. I hit 72 last week. Count me in, too.
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 02:41 AM
Mar 28

Although I’m not in the same boat. I was in the Netherlands on Monday, Belgium Tuesday, France yesterday, back in Belgium today, Holland tomorrow, and have to run down to Spain on Monday. My biggest disability at the moment is my inability to slow down like I was intending to. If I ever start spouting nonsense like that guy, then lock ME up, since it’s my taxes, in part, that pay for the money that HE lives on.

FakeNoose

(33,592 posts)
10. Dementia caused by Faux Noise and Hate Radio
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 10:08 PM
Mar 2024

Long after Chump finally croaks (please let it be soon!) we'll still be dealing with these demented old farts.

harumph

(1,981 posts)
21. I think you're on to something. Seriously.
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 10:46 PM
Mar 2024

But I think it's more of an overall unhealthy American lifestyle (little or no exercise and shitty diets/processed foods) that many middle class and poor people alike are prone to. Think about the world when these 70 year olds were in their 40's. I'm 61, and started working for myself 17 years ago. Didn't get rich - but have been able to make my own schedule - eat healthy - get sunshine whenever I wanted. I'm MUCH healthier and more informed than most of my peers in age and income. I will say I'm pissed off - but in the opposite direction from the old fart mentioned in the OP.

OAITW r.2.0

(25,325 posts)
27. I think that Republicans, in every State of the Union, are hoping they get 1 more cycle before they implode.
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 11:23 PM
Mar 2024

Ponietz

(3,177 posts)
40. Attacking public health started with Reagan
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 09:34 PM
Mar 27

TFG weaponized it, in part, by rejecting the science of immunology and excoriating those in the field.

PBS is airing The Invisible Shield now — highlighting the growing problems.
https://www.pbs.org/show/the-invisible-shield

viva la

(3,472 posts)
5. I wonder if his caretakers are all white native-borns
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 10:03 PM
Mar 2024

Fortunately, they are no doubt kind enough and sensible enough to ignore his racism and hatefulness and take care of him anyway.

I wouldn't be so kind myself. I guess he's lucky.

Orrex

(63,457 posts)
9. I suspect that he edits his commentary to suit the perceived audience
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 10:07 PM
Mar 2024

My sense is that he saw me, a middle-aged white guy working in a service trade in western PA, as a kindred spirit.

MotownPgh

(150 posts)
18. Washington county
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 10:39 PM
Mar 2024

I take care of my dad and his neighbors cannot help spewing their s__t at me. I guess because I look like them.

FSogol

(45,701 posts)
6. LOL, he's voting for and supporting the exact people who
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 10:03 PM
Mar 2024

Are keeping him from getting more benefits.

Orrex

(63,457 posts)
11. IKR?
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 10:08 PM
Mar 2024

When Trump first oozed to the surface, the fanatics in my town were positively gleeful. And when I pointed out that he and his fellow Republicans would be coming after their medicare and social security, they laughed and called me a triggered libt*rd.

usonian

(10,461 posts)
12. Wrong demographic.
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 10:09 PM
Mar 2024

I'm 75 and getting calluses on my fingers from drumming up support for Biden and Harris and key issues on these pages (and elsewhere)

I *WELCOME* immigrants to California to do the jobs that feed the country and that nobody else will do.

And I detest illegals who storm the Capitol Building and conspire to substitute fake electors for real ones, and the people (Ronna something or other) who materially assist in their illegal schemes. And let's throw in unindicted ring-leaders, awaiting an Attorney General with cojones enough to bag the BIG elephants and not just petty losers.



mitch96

(14,051 posts)
13. I guess from your post you had to stay and take the abuse to finish your job. The geezer must have really
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 10:11 PM
Mar 2024

liked having someone to talk AT not with.
I see that a lot with my geezer friends. When they have a captive audience they just rattle on and on and no space for a response from the other person..
Too bad he was a reich wing asshat..
m

Orrex

(63,457 posts)
34. It always blows my mind that they have no idea of the power dynamic at play
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 11:58 PM
Mar 2024

While I'm there as a contractor, I'm basically their employee, and it's grossly inappropriate to put an employee in a position where they must either agree, remain silent, or else challenge the site owner's views and thereby expose themselves to repercussions.

I've compiled a number of neutral-ish replies that don't really take a stand one way or the other (eg., "Yep, crazy times" or "Hard to believe" or "I've heard about stuff like that" etc.) but the only time I actually discuss politics is when the site owner is clearly on the Left (Michelle Obama's book on the coffee table, a "Hate Has No Place Here" sign in the yard, or--in one case--an 3' x 4' poster of Ruth Bader Ginsburg). In those cases I like to signal where I stand on things so that they aren't worried about a crazy Trumper puttering around in their basement.

Beachnutt

(7,511 posts)
14. I would have said
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 10:23 PM
Mar 2024

obviously no one took your job as you have been supported by the taxpayers for 20 years..

Kinda cold response to him I know but I like to shut the loons down quick.
That way they know where I stand.

Mr.Bill

(24,442 posts)
23. I'm 70 and I'm as white as Opie Taylor.
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 11:05 PM
Mar 2024

I used to have people of a similar demographic just walk up to me in public places and start talking to me as if we were both at the Trump rally last night. I would quickly inform them that they don't want to go there with me. I tell them I spend at least eight hours a day studying and discussing politics, and I will make a fool out of them in short order. There hasn't been one of them who didn't walk away immediately.

I say this used to happen because it hasn't happened since a day in early November in 2020.

odins folly

(202 posts)
28. I feel it's because
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 11:24 PM
Mar 2024

They believe the narrative that they ARE the majority. They have bought the rw bullshit for so many years and within their information bubble that is all they hear. The belief is rw IS the majority and therfore any win by the liberal side must have been aided by nefarious influence.

And stupidity...lack of critical thinking skills plays a huge part...

AverageOldGuy

(1,612 posts)
30. My sister-in-law . . .
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 11:32 PM
Mar 2024

. . . would tell anyone who was in earshot how "Muslim immigrants get $1,800 a month from the government, food stamps, free medical care, and free housing . . . " I refused to engage with her, always moved away, sat across the room, ignored her. She died three years ago, an event on which I will not comment.

Turbineguy

(37,587 posts)
36. I'm 73.
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 12:20 AM
Mar 27

One of my RWNJ neighbors who I see in the elevator from time to time is frightened that he might catch the lubrul from me.

Response to Orrex (Original post)

electric_blue68

(15,447 posts)
45. On rare occasions as a white woman I've had racist comments said to me by men...
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 12:52 AM
Mar 28

Twice I had to very carefully answer back as 1) I was in a cab by myself, 2) in the laundry room in my building w the good super's drunk friend who was bigger than me.

The other times a more assertive response.

Orrex

(63,457 posts)
48. Ugh. I'm sure that the dynamic is much worse for women
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 08:30 AM
Mar 28

When they prattle at me, it’s with a “we’re all on the same page, right?” vibe, which is annoying but seldom actually threatening.

But in your case, there’s the added implication of danger if you speak out, or even if you simply don’t confirm the person’s views. And let’s be honest: the person with those views already has a pretty shitty attitude toward women, and they tend to have an aggressive personality type, especially in matters of politics, so it must be even more challenging to navigate that exchange safely.

Ugly times, to be sure. The worst are full of passionate intensity, as they say.

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