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Very interesting data, HUGE decline in right-wing media consumption and traffic. (Original Post) kpete Mar 2024 OP
They're all dead. Hugin Mar 2024 #1
The majority of right-wing viewers were always one foot in the grave anyway. Crowman2009 Mar 2024 #12
Sure, but they raised children. Children never born racists. Highest indicator for racism is having racist parents. nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2024 #20
That's unless said children grow up, leave the house, and never talk to their parents ever again. Crowman2009 Mar 2024 #23
And some of us are raised by racist parents, but.... ShazzieB Mar 2024 #58
And we're grateful for each and every one! . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2024 #60
That was the case with my sister and me. ChazInAz Mar 2024 #71
My mother, for example. Aristus Mar 2024 #82
I was scrolling down to say they were sick of MAGA shit, but then realized your post was probably more accurate. TheBlackAdder Mar 2024 #14
Or in prison, maybe they don't allow them to listen to that garbage. Bev54 Mar 2024 #29
Actually, every prison I know of blasts fux nooz 24/7. The prisoners are programmed to hate "liberals". BComplex Mar 2024 #78
Can't say I dispute this, I have never been inside a prison for any reason. It just seems to me that Bev54 Mar 2024 #83
I totally agree! It definitely WOULD be in the best interest of a prison NOT to further indoctrinate BComplex Mar 2024 #84
Indeed, COVID has wiped out hundreds of thousands of them Wednesdays Mar 2024 #54
Some might be in prison soldierant Mar 2024 #65
Post removed Post removed Mar 2024 #74
K&R! Very interesting data indeed jmbar2 Mar 2024 #2
Stats might be misleading. Reich wing audiences are volatile now; many say Fox is too liberal Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2024 #31
Also have noticed more MSM articles than in the past jmbar2 Mar 2024 #34
And a science poster or two. Plus enormous number of "my body did something; how're the kids" posts Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2024 #38
Less Trump signs Owens Mar 2024 #76
Good to hear! jmbar2 Mar 2024 #80
Russian amplifiers diverted to catapult their own propaganda? tanyev Mar 2024 #3
My thought as well Clash City Rocker Mar 2024 #77
They're going to need dweller Mar 2024 #4
encouraging....perhaps the dam is starting to break. SalamanderSleeps Mar 2024 #5
To me this suggests that the bulk of the traffic was bots drray23 Mar 2024 #6
Good point PatSeg Mar 2024 #19
Yep, bet it was tons of bots. machoneman Mar 2024 #30
I thought you were right NJCher Mar 2024 #40
There might be a down trend drray23 Mar 2024 #44
Especially if Biden and the shitbag are so close in polling. Probatim Mar 2024 #75
Yep kpete Mar 2024 #51
The RW sites had been hyping impeachment and Hunter. Qutzupalotl Mar 2024 #7
Image... Hermit-The-Prog Mar 2024 #8
Truth Social? Johnny2X2X Mar 2024 #16
I don't see that in the chart, which is from the OP. Hermit-The-Prog Mar 2024 #17
TS is not a news web site. Same reason you don't see twitter/x or facebook there either. n/t thesquanderer Mar 2024 #25
Interesting specifics, if accurate. yardwork Mar 2024 #27
"Fox News only down a little" SergeStorms Mar 2024 #43
Fox News is tied for Fourth best... druidity33 Mar 2024 #59
They're reading their bibles. Too busy self-flagellating. lindysalsagal Mar 2024 #9
I can picture them now..... SergeStorms Mar 2024 #46
Those wouldn't happen to be trump bibles, would they? calimary Mar 2024 #69
Feb/March 2020 is also when Covid started ramping up Sympthsical Mar 2024 #10
Maybe there are very few that get all the attention. Like Tucker Carlson JI7 Mar 2024 #11
again, smelvis is et tu Mar 2024 #13
I'd also be interested to see the statistics on right wing hate radio. Sky Jewels Mar 2024 #15
Plus who the f*** under age 40 listens to AM radio? Crowman2009 Mar 2024 #24
There's a lawsuit right now.... SergeStorms Mar 2024 #47
If they want Hate radio then charge them an extra $5000. flying_wahini Mar 2024 #81
Works for me. SergeStorms Mar 2024 #85
Sports is on AM radio (NT) GenThePerservering Mar 2024 #64
a bunch of them are in jail for participating in the insurrection - so there's that. nt TBF Mar 2024 #18
The time period is Feb 2020 to Feb 2024 IronLionZion Mar 2024 #21
There is a cure for Trump Cult Derangement. Kid Berwyn Mar 2024 #22
Only if they take it. Think. Again. Mar 2024 #32
AM talk radio.... SergeStorms Mar 2024 #48
Very creative and very true. LastDemocratInSC Mar 2024 #53
I think head is misleading. NYT is down just as much as Fox. Wash Post is down far more than either of them. thesquanderer Mar 2024 #26
NYT is very much rightwing.... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #33
WaPo is a moderate publication with plenty of liberal points of view. yardwork Mar 2024 #35
The "center" has been allowed to be dragged so far to the right... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #36
Seriously? You're going to put NYT and WP in the same category as Newsmax et al? thesquanderer Mar 2024 #42
Yeah, I wasn't comparing how far right they are to each other..... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #45
I'd like to see a similar data load for left wing sites OnlinePoker Mar 2024 #37
Look at the chart, the data is there for non-RW sites as well (left and moderate) thesquanderer Mar 2024 #41
That "perception of no one you can trust" bdamomma Mar 2024 #79
Both NYT and WaPo are dogging their paywalls FakeNoose Mar 2024 #57
but I don't think the paywalls there any more of a factor than they were a year ago. (n/t) thesquanderer Mar 2024 #62
Lots of competition out there for the viewing public. Plus, this right-wing hate stuff is getting boring and SWBTATTReg Mar 2024 #28
I used to go to (and post regularly) John Farmer Mar 2024 #39
I'm hoping that it boils down to Rage-For-Profit has finally hit its peak. Torchlight Mar 2024 #49
K&R liberalla Mar 2024 #50
Evangelicals enid602 Mar 2024 #52
They may be right. Joinfortmill Mar 2024 #73
I think a bunch migrated to social media ... Jarqui Mar 2024 #55
More on social media IbogaProject Mar 2024 #56
I've noticed in a few local and state reddits that... Captain Zero Mar 2024 #70
It probavly just means Mountainguy Mar 2024 #61
The Message Stagnated DallasNE Mar 2024 #63
Another ray of hope Harmony Starshine Mar 2024 #66
Lies Get Old And Tired HandmaidsTaleUntold Mar 2024 #67
Good, maybe the morons finally realized they have been consuming bullshit. Kick GoodRaisin Mar 2024 #68
Good. Wishing for the demise of FoxNews. May they rot in hell. Joinfortmill Mar 2024 #72

Hugin

(37,609 posts)
1. They're all dead.
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 10:28 AM
Mar 2024

I can't think of any other thing which would tear them away from their beloved hate-o-vision.

Or, maybe, they were liars about their views in the past. Nah, that couldn't be it.

Crowman2009

(3,444 posts)
12. The majority of right-wing viewers were always one foot in the grave anyway.
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 11:35 AM
Mar 2024

I can't wait for the day when all the old racists from the Jim Crow era finally become extinct.

ChazInAz

(3,003 posts)
71. That was the case with my sister and me.
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 08:41 AM
Mar 2024

We grew up in an immigrant neighborhood of Eastern Europeans in Springfield, Illinois. The Black neighborhood started on the next street over. Probably explains my life-long liberalism.

Aristus

(71,866 posts)
82. My mother, for example.
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 10:34 AM
Mar 2024

She was raised in Alabama, and later Texas, by two ultra-conservative Southern Baptist racists.

My mother has always been a dyed-in-the-wool, Kennedy-style liberal, without a racist bone in her body, and she's very LGBTQ-friendly. She raised me, my brother, and my sister to be the same way.

TheBlackAdder

(29,981 posts)
14. I was scrolling down to say they were sick of MAGA shit, but then realized your post was probably more accurate.
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 11:43 AM
Mar 2024

BComplex

(9,802 posts)
78. Actually, every prison I know of blasts fux nooz 24/7. The prisoners are programmed to hate "liberals".
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 10:04 AM
Mar 2024

Liberals are also the party that tries to reform prisons, bring books and programs to prisons, and try to rehabilitate those who are not beyond rehabilitation.

Bev54

(13,320 posts)
83. Can't say I dispute this, I have never been inside a prison for any reason. It just seems to me that
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 12:02 PM
Mar 2024

it would be in the best interest of a prison not to further indoctrinate inmates into hatred.

BComplex

(9,802 posts)
84. I totally agree! It definitely WOULD be in the best interest of a prison NOT to further indoctrinate
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 12:47 PM
Mar 2024

inmates into hatred, but you have to consider the authoritarian nature of the vast majority of prison management and staff...they truly do employ mostly authoritarian types. And management and staff are the ones who get to choose the channels that are played, for the most part, and in most (not all) prisons.

Wednesdays

(21,904 posts)
54. Indeed, COVID has wiped out hundreds of thousands of them
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 04:24 PM
Mar 2024

It's still a small percentage of voters, but in a close election it could become decisive.

Response to Hugin (Reply #1)

jmbar2

(7,778 posts)
2. K&R! Very interesting data indeed
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 10:29 AM
Mar 2024

I regularly cruise the Freepers to see what's going on in their small minds.

Postings seem to have dropped a lot, very few championing tRump, and they seem to have trouble raising the $81,000/quarter that they claim to need to keep that troglodyte website operating.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
31. Stats might be misleading. Reich wing audiences are volatile now; many say Fox is too liberal
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 12:35 PM
Mar 2024

They shift around a lot.

There would be a lot of RW media sites coming up fast on the outside, not included in that tabulation. Some didn't even exist four years ago; most notably Tucker Carlson's independent outlet. Epoch Times gets a lot of traffic now, I'm sure, judging by citations.

As to the FReak site, they seem just as active, but kind of subdued. They are deep into "dems gonna steal it" funks. But surprisingly there are quite a number of anti-tRump posts. Even posts highlighting tRump's criminality.

All the same, I fully expect there to be the same kind of site-wide prohibition against anti-tRump posts as in 2020, laid down by site owner RimJob when tRump is formally nominated as he is almost certainly going to be whether or not he has further convictions by that date.

jmbar2

(7,778 posts)
34. Also have noticed more MSM articles than in the past
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 12:45 PM
Mar 2024

Plus some interesting posts about archeology, similar to what JudiLynn posts here.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
38. And a science poster or two. Plus enormous number of "my body did something; how're the kids" posts
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 01:00 PM
Mar 2024

There's a lot of chaff to zip over, but they have become a lot more amusing in the past three years than the four before that.

{ proposed trucker boycott of NYC }
Can you just imagine the scrambling going on right now. Betcha grocery
store shelves are empty, or very close to it.
4 posted on 2024-02-18 by ryderann

Former United States Representative Tulsi Gabbard addresses CPAC 2024 in Washington, D
2024-02-23, 136 of 136
mewzilla to Persevero
She’s Deep State.

Newsmax is just as corrupt as the rest of them.
150 posted on 2024-02-23, by silent_jonny (Mene, mene, tekel, upharsin, Joe. The feet are at the door (Acts 5: 9) 9-18-21)

"The country is being divided into people who make things and people who don't."
And people who are compromised by child traffickers, and those who aren't.
55 posted on 2024-02-23, by kiryandil

Owens

(589 posts)
76. Less Trump signs
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 09:45 AM
Mar 2024

I've seen fewer Trump signs here in Arizona - Phoenix area. Even my neighbors no longer have Trump signs.

drray23

(8,643 posts)
6. To me this suggests that the bulk of the traffic was bots
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 10:45 AM
Mar 2024

and whomever paid to have these bots amplify right wing disinformation and conspiracy theories pulled the plug.

NJCher

(42,745 posts)
40. I thought you were right
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 01:14 PM
Mar 2024

and rec'd this post. Subsequent to that, however, the chart below was posted. There's an overall downward trend, even among what they call "mainstream sites" like Washington Post, NY Times, CNN, etc.

Remember how a few months ago the administrators told us that advertising $$ was down here at DU?

Maybe it's an overall trend, regardless of whether it's conservative or left leaning.

drray23

(8,643 posts)
44. There might be a down trend
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 01:32 PM
Mar 2024

But numbers like 80 % less traffic seem too big to be just attributed to people who suddenly decided it's no longer interesting to them.
It's well documented that X( Twitter) had a large fraction of bot accounts for example. It's similar on any major media site.

Probatim

(3,235 posts)
75. Especially if Biden and the shitbag are so close in polling.
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 09:32 AM
Mar 2024

Can't imagine you'd have a 90% drop in traffic if the viewers have changed their minds and not see that in the polling - it has to be bot traffic.

Qutzupalotl

(15,743 posts)
7. The RW sites had been hyping impeachment and Hunter.
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 10:53 AM
Mar 2024

Didn't work out like they hoped. Now inflation is easing, the economy is rebounding, Trump sounds even crazier…

yardwork

(69,087 posts)
27. Interesting specifics, if accurate.
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 12:27 PM
Mar 2024

Newsmax viewership is up. Fox News only down a little. Most other right wing sites way down. But WaPo and NYT viewership is down, too.

SergeStorms

(20,200 posts)
43. "Fox News only down a little"
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 01:31 PM
Mar 2024

Down 22% is "only a little"?

That's far more than a little.

I'm glad you're not my investment manager.

Newscrax has a far smaller audience than Fox, so their increase looks bigger percentage-wise, but in reality isn't that many people. People will probably tire of Newscrax after a while. They're nuttier than squirrel shit over there.

All-in-all, I'd say the right-wing propaganda Wurlitzer is pretty far out of tune, if you ask me (which you didn't) 😉

Have a Democratic day, yardwork.

druidity33

(6,878 posts)
59. Fox News is tied for Fourth best...
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 05:43 PM
Mar 2024

on that list. They're tied with CNN. DKos at -4% and Newsmax at +38% beat them. So i guess the point is EVERYONE's numbers are down... Fox's is one of the least down.



SergeStorms

(20,200 posts)
46. I can picture them now.....
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 01:38 PM
Mar 2024

People walking around in MAGA hats, wearing their Trump sneakers, reading their Trump approved Trump bibles.......walking into trees, telephone poles, over steep cliffs, down long flights of stairs. Hey, maybe all that Trump merchandise isn't so bad after all.

calimary

(89,289 posts)
69. Those wouldn't happen to be trump bibles, would they?
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 02:17 AM
Mar 2024

How do we know those bibles aren't just stacks of trump speeches, packaged as books?

Sympthsical

(10,896 posts)
10. Feb/March 2020 is also when Covid started ramping up
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 11:19 AM
Mar 2024

So I'm not sure if saying "Let's compare election years" as if nothing else was going on is really useful in any way.

It doesn't feel apples to apples.

That said, even on the Right, I perceive people are just tired of hearing about Trump. They're over it.

They'll still vote - and we should behave as if they will - but in the spaces I read, I see a lack of enthusiasm or even willingness to really discuss very much about him. Most people already know where they're at in all this.

 

Sky Jewels

(9,148 posts)
15. I'd also be interested to see the statistics on right wing hate radio.
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 11:46 AM
Mar 2024

I can't imagine that it is growing its audience. Younger people use Spotify and such. The radio-listening, Reagan-worshipping, right-wing-propaganda- susceptible types who belong to generations born before the 1960s are rapidly declining in numbers.

SergeStorms

(20,200 posts)
47. There's a lawsuit right now....
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 01:48 PM
Mar 2024

to have U.S. auto-makers continue to include AM radio in all their new cars.

It seems the auto-makers wanted to discontinue the AM band on the radios of their new models, and right-wing nuts went crazy(er) about it. How else were they to listen to far-right talk radio without the AM band in their cars?

To my knowledge the case is still pending. Stay tuned (so to speak) to see how this pans out.

IronLionZion

(50,994 posts)
21. The time period is Feb 2020 to Feb 2024
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 12:14 PM
Mar 2024

so many of them died from COVID to own the libs, were Russian bots, or some may have wised up to the reality that right wing media is feeding them lies.

thesquanderer

(12,916 posts)
26. I think head is misleading. NYT is down just as much as Fox. Wash Post is down far more than either of them.
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 12:24 PM
Mar 2024

It's not just a rightwing thing. Maybe people just aren't reading news sites as much.

yardwork

(69,087 posts)
35. WaPo is a moderate publication with plenty of liberal points of view.
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 12:46 PM
Mar 2024

I think people are just getting fatigued with news.

 

Think. Again.

(22,456 posts)
36. The "center" has been allowed to be dragged so far to the right...
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 12:52 PM
Mar 2024

....that "Moderate" is the new shockingly anti-liberal.

thesquanderer

(12,916 posts)
42. Seriously? You're going to put NYT and WP in the same category as Newsmax et al?
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 01:25 PM
Mar 2024

(Newsmax being the only source listed that has actually grown online readership.)

I'm not saying NYT is a beacon of the left, but they are certainly not RW a la brietbart.

 

Think. Again.

(22,456 posts)
45. Yeah, I wasn't comparing how far right they are to each other.....
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 01:36 PM
Mar 2024

...just using a basic left, right, or factual scale.

So yes, "right" is the category I put them in.

OnlinePoker

(6,107 posts)
37. I'd like to see a similar data load for left wing sites
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 01:00 PM
Mar 2024

I think people have stopped trusting a large portion of the media space right now because of misinformation fatigue. It wouldn't even matter if left wing sites are fully factual in their reporting. The perception now is there's nobody you can trust.

thesquanderer

(12,916 posts)
41. Look at the chart, the data is there for non-RW sites as well (left and moderate)
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 01:17 PM
Mar 2024

That's why I said the headline doesn't match the data, because non RW-readership is down too (consistent with your point as well).

bdamomma

(69,346 posts)
79. That "perception of no one you can trust"
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 10:10 AM
Mar 2024

is what those in the GQP and other adversarial countries or leaders want us to do to get the citizenry confused and not to trust anything we read or listen too. Out of the playbook.

FakeNoose

(40,703 posts)
57. Both NYT and WaPo are dogging their paywalls
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 05:24 PM
Mar 2024

I used to read them both regularly without buying a subscription.

Nowadays I can only read the NYT and WaPo articles that someone posts on DU.

SWBTATTReg

(26,144 posts)
28. Lots of competition out there for the viewing public. Plus, this right-wing hate stuff is getting boring and
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 12:29 PM
Mar 2024

repetitive. Like tRUMP. Boring and repetitive, old and out of date.

John Farmer

(383 posts)
39. I used to go to (and post regularly)
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 01:01 PM
Mar 2024

on a couple of right-wing forums. After a combined 18,000 posts one forum folded and the other banned me.

Torchlight

(6,514 posts)
49. I'm hoping that it boils down to Rage-For-Profit has finally hit its peak.
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 01:59 PM
Mar 2024

A major reason we've just never gotten into cable news (besides the weird personality cults that have developed) is that we're both kids of watching rational, even-keeled, boring even, news for 30 minutes after dinner growing up. Grown-up news. News as adults do it. Cable news thee days comes across as channel after channel of tantrums, displays of emotion, hosts sanctimoniously and consistently moralizing about someone else's kids, etc. Drama. Soap operas. Yelling. Name-calling. Same form and function as the Banana Splits show I used to watch growing up as kid.,

Near the end of life, Cronkite said his most embarrassing professional moment was losing it when Apollo 11 touched down on the moon. Though he also said he had every right as a human to express himself as such, he reiterated that he had a larger obligation as a journalist to maintain as much objectivity as he possibly could, and he said he failed to do that. I'd be preyty happy if the Personality Cults of Cable News get replaced with something boring. Adult even.

Jarqui

(10,857 posts)
55. I think a bunch migrated to social media ...
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 04:47 PM
Mar 2024

I can't back that up.
It's feeling I get when I'm on social media.

IbogaProject

(5,697 posts)
56. More on social media
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 05:04 PM
Mar 2024

YouTube, FaceBook and such. So we shouldn't get distracted, we all have to try and swing a few votes over. We have to keep in simple Joe had decades of experience, he passed two of the biggest spending on growth bills ever. Bigger than the New Deal, Eisenhower and the Great Society together and adjusted for inflation. It would have been bigger and better if not for the campaign finance issues that gave us Manchin and Senemia. Tax cuts for the rich and wealthy haven't worked. It's time to cut the taxes for the majority of Americans and make the wealthy pay up. This isn't to 'redistribute' but to boost economic activity over a certain income spending slows and gets inefficient.

Captain Zero

(8,807 posts)
70. I've noticed in a few local and state reddits that...
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 03:51 AM
Mar 2024

...there is an increasing number of contributors complaining about the politicization of those threads. Like, "why is this reddit always talking about politics". Everybody knows that reddit has always been very liberal and maybe these are uneasy lurkers? But the recent uptick in people who "just want to know about restaurants and festivals and other fun and interesting things to do" seems somehow to be organized.

Has anyone else noticed this in their state/local reddits??

It's obvious that they are right of center and want to shut down political thought, although they seldom really espouse or advocate outright for conservative viewpoints.

 

Mountainguy

(2,145 posts)
61. It probavly just means
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 07:02 PM
Mar 2024

They have decided those are too liberal and fou d something crazier to watch. Notice that Newsmax is up.

DallasNE

(7,984 posts)
63. The Message Stagnated
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 09:55 PM
Mar 2024

Witch hunt, never proven, got boring. The high tops may have been the last straw - along with the strong State of the Union address by President Biden.

 
67. Lies Get Old And Tired
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 01:22 AM
Mar 2024

RW outrage media is very unpleasant and hurts the soul. Their hatred needs to be turned back on them.

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