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RandySF

(83,985 posts)
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 12:09 PM Mar 2024

Demonstrators called Jews "Zionist pigs," intimidate Holocaust survivor at Berkeley City Council meeting.





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WATCH: Yesterday, the Berkeley City Council held its final meeting before a one-month recess. The agenda of the meeting included an item on marking Holocaust Remembrance Day and funding educational programs around this commemoration. There was nothing on the meeting agenda about the Israel-Hamas War.

Demonstrators called Jews "Zionist pigs," intimidated a Holocaust survivor, stole and threw a Jewish man's phone toward the dais and implied city council members were being bought by the Jewish community.

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Demonstrators called Jews "Zionist pigs," intimidate Holocaust survivor at Berkeley City Council meeting. (Original Post) RandySF Mar 2024 OP
Hateful bigots mcar Mar 2024 #1
true asshats Celerity Mar 2024 #2
Such lovely people, hiding behind masks sarisataka Mar 2024 #3
Yeah.... PCIntern Mar 2024 #4
Interesting Nutty Putty Mar 2024 #7
But Rashida said "From the river to the sea." RandySF Mar 2024 #8
So as long as there are Jews there will be Jew haters? sarisataka Mar 2024 #10
Seemingly genetic and societal defects. TheKentuckian Mar 2024 #43
I do have an opinion Nutty Putty Mar 2024 #48
My opinion is that millennia of propaganda has paid off sarisataka Mar 2024 #49
And your point is...? PCIntern Mar 2024 #22
the problem antisemites have with Israelis is they never agingdem Mar 2024 #27
At what point do we start discussing mental illness? Sympthsical Mar 2024 #5
And not a peep from our local news stations. RandySF Mar 2024 #6
Not mentioned on Berkeleyside either Sympthsical Mar 2024 #13
The one thing I've realized the last few years is that the media doesn't cover things that make them uncomfortable. Ace Rothstein Mar 2024 #18
convinced it's drugs. mopinko Mar 2024 #24
Absolutely disgusting people. So ignorant. beaglelover Mar 2024 #9
seems like there WAS a time - when activism and protest stopdiggin Mar 2024 #11
Not really. Caliman73 Mar 2024 #15
These people are violent and unhinged. Ace Rothstein Mar 2024 #12
Agree. debm55 Mar 2024 #14
People in Berkeley behaving like trash? EllieBC Mar 2024 #16
I can't overstate my contempt for these entitled jerks. yardwork Mar 2024 #17
They don't give a fuck about any Palestinians TheKentuckian Mar 2024 #20
They are egotistical twits. yardwork Mar 2024 #21
This is what gripped the Uk Labour Party for some years. RandySF Mar 2024 #23
That's too bad. In the U.S. they give Democrats a bad name. yardwork Mar 2024 #25
Fuck the Pro Hamas, genocidal Jew hating terrorists! TheKentuckian Mar 2024 #19
Awful DaBronx Mar 2024 #26
Horrible. betsuni Mar 2024 #28
BIGOTED PIECES OF SHIT! Behind the Aegis Mar 2024 #29
I don't support claudette Mar 2024 #30
Of course you don't. PCIntern Mar 2024 #31
Except claudette Mar 2024 #34
Israel is doing what was done to them PCIntern Mar 2024 #36
It is absolutely self defense. TheKentuckian Mar 2024 #45
Always the "but" RandySF Mar 2024 #35
No, always the truth claudette Mar 2024 #37
Their thinking? RandySF Mar 2024 #39
No, those are the ACTIONS claudette Mar 2024 #40
You agree with their thinking? sarisataka Mar 2024 #41
there is no coherent 'thinking' in evidence to support here -(nt)- stopdiggin Mar 2024 #47
The woman who said this is a hateful bigot: madaboutharry Mar 2024 #32
Why? claudette Mar 2024 #38
If you believe Israel has a right to exist...you are a Zionist. tritsofme Mar 2024 #42
You can find dumbass sellouts that will tell you all about TheKentuckian Mar 2024 #46
They're Projecting the "pig" Slur. Cha Mar 2024 #33
But Islam is a religion of peace Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2024 #44

Celerity

(54,333 posts)
2. true asshats
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 12:13 PM
Mar 2024


The agenda of the meeting included an item on marking Holocaust Remembrance Day and funding educational programs around this commemoration. There was nothing on the meeting agenda about the Israel-Hamas War.

sarisataka

(22,658 posts)
3. Such lovely people, hiding behind masks
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 12:19 PM
Mar 2024

while trying to intimidate elderly Holocaust survivors. I am 100% sure when they say "Zionist" they don't mean "Jew" {sarc}

In this totally non-antisemitic burst of Judenhass I noted at least on say to "End Israel". Is that just aspirational?

For those who claim they never see Hamas support, watch this then try to defend it.

PCIntern

(28,340 posts)
4. Yeah....
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 12:21 PM
Mar 2024

I don’t wanna hear anymore about how this is all about Israel and nothing about Jews. Bullshit. These people have been waiting in the wings since time immemorial. Well, they’re in for a big surprise because we ain’t going anywhere.

sarisataka

(22,658 posts)
10. So as long as there are Jews there will be Jew haters?
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 12:56 PM
Mar 2024

Likely true, but do you have an opinion why this is so?

sarisataka

(22,658 posts)
49. My opinion is that millennia of propaganda has paid off
Fri Mar 29, 2024, 12:38 PM
Mar 2024

so that antisemitism is the great unifier. It is a worldwide phenomenon that crosses race, creed, color, religion and all other factors that divide us. The overwhelming majority of people agree, if something is wrong find a Jew to blame.

Is that close to your opinion?

agingdem

(8,835 posts)
27. the problem antisemites have with Israelis is they never
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 02:30 PM
Mar 2024

act the victim...and the problem antisemites have with the Holocaust/survivors is regret Hitler didn't succeed in ridding the world of the Jewish people...and he tried...

Sympthsical

(10,960 posts)
5. At what point do we start discussing mental illness?
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 12:23 PM
Mar 2024

Because watching these videos where people who show up at these random ass meetings and go wild, some of them do not seem . . . well.

Also, yeah, they're just racists.

Also also. This is pretty much just a Wednesday in Berkeley. It's like someone emptied Telegraph into the council chamber.

Sympthsical

(10,960 posts)
13. Not mentioned on Berkeleyside either
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 01:10 PM
Mar 2024

And their entire thing is Berkeley news. I guess what happens at a city council meeting isn't terribly interesting for them.

Not in SFGate. Not in the Chronicle. Though the arrest of man for slashing tires is! So, hey, we can all rest easy.

I'm sure we shouldn't be noticing this.

Ace Rothstein

(3,373 posts)
18. The one thing I've realized the last few years is that the media doesn't cover things that make them uncomfortable.
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 01:27 PM
Mar 2024

There is definitely a narrative created at times. And it can be difficult to find a good source on certain stories when some of the media refuses to cover a specific story

mopinko

(73,686 posts)
24. convinced it's drugs.
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 01:50 PM
Mar 2024

convinced drugs r behind way more of our ills than we realize. cops on roids, magats on meth and ozy.
i cd go on.

stopdiggin

(15,419 posts)
11. seems like there WAS a time - when activism and protest
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 12:58 PM
Mar 2024

was carried out with the intention of winning people over to the cause ...

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Caliman73

(11,767 posts)
15. Not really.
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 01:20 PM
Mar 2024

People tend to create a nostalgia around ...once upon a time. MLK Jr. was absolutely HATED by A LOT of people, who were not directly involved in the Civil Rights movement. People were either indifferent or cheered when Pinkertons roughed up striking workers during the labor movement.

Most protests were not appreciated until a great while after what they were fighting for became, "normalized".

The people in this action calling a jewish person a "Zionist Pig" are disgusting. People need to stop equating their anger at the policies of the right wing Israeli government with being "Jewish" and need to stop using anti semitic language. You can protest government actions without bringing essential elements of people into the equation. Jewish people are NOT the problem. Right Wing ideologies are the problem.

I absolutely revile Conservatism. I think it is a horrible political ideology. I would go after any leader within the Conservative movement and try to make them answer why they hold such horrible ideas in their heads. To the average follower, I would take a different approach and question what about Conservatism, they think actually works for them. Different approaches for different ends.

Protests are typically to bring attention to an issue and to express sentiment against a some action. It has not typically been meant to "win people to the cause" but to galvanize people who are already in the cause for further actions.

Ace Rothstein

(3,373 posts)
12. These people are violent and unhinged.
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 01:07 PM
Mar 2024

I just can't take the Pro-Palestine movement seriously because it is made up of so many bad actors.

EllieBC

(3,639 posts)
16. People in Berkeley behaving like trash?
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 01:24 PM
Mar 2024

Nothing shocking here. The much vaunted Berkeley has always been home to antisemitic garbage.

yardwork

(69,332 posts)
17. I can't overstate my contempt for these entitled jerks.
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 01:26 PM
Mar 2024

If they think they are helping Palestinians, they are sadly mistaken.

 

TheKentuckian

(26,314 posts)
20. They don't give a fuck about any Palestinians
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 01:34 PM
Mar 2024

if Egypt, Lebanon, or Jordan was 100% liquidating them it wouldn't muster a yawn.

yardwork

(69,332 posts)
21. They are egotistical twits.
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 01:39 PM
Mar 2024

Shouting at people who are too polite to shout back makes them feel important. They like playing dress up and visiting meetings where they behave like spoiled two year olds. It gives them a sense of purpose and feeds their sense of grievance and victim hood.

If they actually had to sacrifice anything or endure any real hardship they would quit, go home to their nice cribs, and meet a friend for dinner. I've seen them in action all my life. They are spoiled and clueless. They're the left's version of MAGATs.

yardwork

(69,332 posts)
25. That's too bad. In the U.S. they give Democrats a bad name.
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 01:53 PM
Mar 2024

There aren't that many of them but their influence is large. They're responsible for perpetuating the stereotype of the entitled, condescending, ivory tower liberal who is strident and shrill. They're an occupational hazard of living or working in college towns.

I had noticed before that many of them are quite racist (while making a show of having black friends) but had somehow overlooked that they are also quite antisemitic.

 

claudette

(5,455 posts)
30. I don't support
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 03:33 PM
Mar 2024

that either. But I also don’t support the Israeli government killing babies and toddlers and innocent children by bombs and starvation

PCIntern

(28,340 posts)
31. Of course you don't.
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 04:16 PM
Mar 2024

And I don’t support the torture, sexual mutilation while alive, raping, and killing of 1200 Israelis. And I also don’t support the 75 years of terrorism inflicted on the Israeli population via bus bombs, cafe bombs, school shootings and the like. And I also don’t support the Arab invasion of Israel on the holiest of their holidays in an attempt to EXTERMINATE the Jewish population FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA.

And when Hamas talks of extermination, obviously the rest of the world needs a lesson as to what they’re referring to. But I guarantee you that if Israel found itself in the same position, there’d be much less hue and cry from others.

When it comes to we Jews, there’s always a “but”.

 

claudette

(5,455 posts)
34. Except
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 06:04 PM
Mar 2024

what you are seeing Israel do in Gaza is NOT "self-defense." It is outright, pure pre-meditated murder. In any sane world, 30,000 dead so far in Gaza avenges 1200 Israelis - unless Israel has another motive to wipe out ALL Palestinians. "Extermination" is an ugly word and the world would hate to accuse Israel of wanting to "exterminate" another race. Right?

PCIntern

(28,340 posts)
36. Israel is doing what was done to them
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 06:10 PM
Mar 2024

I’m not advocating it, but it is what is happening. The Palestinians historically want like 700 Palestinians released from jails for one Usraeli citizen. The Israelis are holding them to tgat ratio.

What you need to do to stop this completely and totally is start clamoring for the release of whatever Israeli hostages are still alive as well as the remains of the dead ones. . Did we forget about them? I haven’t.

 

TheKentuckian

(26,314 posts)
45. It is absolutely self defense.
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 08:14 PM
Mar 2024

You seem to have no idea what the concept even is and it has nothing to do with a body count or avenging anything.

It is self defense to remove the threat and malicious folly to count to 1200 or 1400 and turn around and await the next attack to avenge.

This concept makes no sense whatsoever. Not morally. Not logically. Certainly not militarily.

It is like some cannot imagine a conflict much beyond squabbling siblings in the 3rd row of mom's SUV.

The count is however many it takes to quell the threat.

Has Hamas been broken or surrendered? Have the hostages been released?

Then the only objectives that matter have not be reached.

Don't like them apples? Fucking surrender/give up the terrorist and release the hostages.

RandySF

(83,985 posts)
35. Always the "but"
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 06:09 PM
Mar 2024

The people in that video don’t merit any “but”. They’re thugs, period.

 

claudette

(5,455 posts)
37. No, always the truth
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 06:11 PM
Mar 2024

I agree with their thinking, but not with their actions on how to fix the problem.

RandySF

(83,985 posts)
39. Their thinking?
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 06:18 PM
Mar 2024

All I heard was “Zionist pigs” and “the city council is controlled by Jewish money”.

 

claudette

(5,455 posts)
40. No, those are the ACTIONS
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 06:20 PM
Mar 2024

I agree that the Zionist government of Israel is murdering innocents and it should stop NOW.

sarisataka

(22,658 posts)
41. You agree with their thinking?
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 06:22 PM
Mar 2024

That the Berkeley City Council are Israeli spies and profiteering from genocide? You believe that Israel should be ended?

madaboutharry

(42,032 posts)
32. The woman who said this is a hateful bigot:
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 06:02 PM
Mar 2024

“Being around Zionists really gets my blood boiling.”

Anyone who believes this statement is about anything other than Jew hate is lying to themselves and everyone else.

These haters are nothing more than unbalanced losers who hate western democracy because they haven’t made anything of themselves. People with any sense of self worth and dignity don’t behave like this and don’t spew hateful slogans.

You can have a political opinion without resorting to behaving like an anarchist, unless you are one.

 

TheKentuckian

(26,314 posts)
46. You can find dumbass sellouts that will tell you all about
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 08:20 PM
Mar 2024

how great slavery was for black people too.

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