There are protesters outside where Clinton, Obama, and Biden are meeting, on the Israel-Gaza situation. Will these same

[JohnSJ]

protesters be out there at the republican convention, or at CPAC conventions?

[sarisataka]

1. .

[Coventina]

2. Of course not! Because Trump winning helps the Gazans!!!!!

Because Biden is EVIL!!!!!

(Those folks are seriously deranged).

[BlueKota]

55. Yes Donald Trump whose representatives said in 2016

that they might consider detaining Muslims in the U.S. in internment camps is going to do so much more to help protect and save a country that has a 99 percent Muslim population. By the way Trump also hangs with Neo Nazis and praises Hitler so if he gets back in office I doubt things will go so well for Jewish people either.

Look I don't like what's happening in Gaza either, but anything that hurts Biden helps Trump that's the reality. Biden has to win or it's going to be catastrophic for the entire world, if Trump gets back in.

This isn't a typical election. Trump is a dangerous psychopath whose telling us the horrible truth about what he has planned if he manages to win. I don't understand how some people fail to get how big a risk it is to hurt Biden's chances of winning the general election in any way, even if that's not their intent?

[Tetrachloride]

3. red herring question

the real questions are : what problem are they protesting and do the protesters present avenues of solutions/progress

[Coventina]

4. Scratch the surface and they are Hamas supporters who

do not care about Gazans at all.

[Tetrachloride]

6. I might be one of the protesters and i am not supporting Hamas

[Coventina]

8. Then you might be violating the TOS, which says "Support Democratic Nominees" I.E. BIDEN

Are you saying you are protesting Biden?

[Tetrachloride]

18. As a matter of fact, why not ?

I repeat, why not. who are you to say that i cannot protest. I bet President Biden would not mind my protest. President Biden is the rare politician who is willing to change his mind. So there’s hope.

[Coventina]

19. I'm just pointing out the rules of this website.

You can take it up with the admins.

[Tetrachloride]

20. then get off my lawn

[Coventina]

22. I'm not on your lawn.

[TexasDem69]

107. I don't care if you protest Biden

As long as you vote for him. But a bunch of those Hamas supporters won’t.

[Autumn]

11. I went to the one in Denver with my granddaughter. I support a ceasefire and an end to the slaughter of civilians.

Lumping all anti war protesters as Hamas supporters is BS.

[David__77]

27. Thank you.

[question everything]

52. Do you realize that there was a ceasefire on October 7? That many Gazans worked in Israel?

What would another ceasefire achieve?

Would you add to your list of demands the release of the hostages?

[Autumn]

61. Tell it to Netanyahu. He kept Hamas in power.

[NickB79]

80. Hamas was never in danger of being replaced

They've been the defacto rulers of Gaza for over 15 yr.

[Autumn]

91. With the help of Netanyahu. Hamas and Netanyahu will never allow a 2 state solution.

[NickB79]

94. Again, Hamas never needed Netanyahu's help

Hamas and the PA were the two options for the people of Gaza.

And the PA wasn't much better than Hamas, as evidenced by their martyr rewards system:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100218820558

The PA oversees parts of the West Bank, and it is seen by the Biden administration as the best option for governing Gaza in the future. But the PA is reviled by many Palestinians, as well as Israelis and Arab leaders, who see it as corrupt, inefficient and out of touch.

The “martyr payments” program financially supports Palestinians and their families if they are wounded, imprisoned or killed while carrying out acts of violence against Israel. It has long infuriated Israelis who say it incentivizes terrorism and call it “pay for slay.” Many Palestinians say it provides crucial support for people standing up to an oppressive Israeli occupation.

[Autumn]

98. But they sure got Netanyahu's help anyway.

[shrike3]

115. Gonna protest Hamas, too?

[RandomNumbers]

134. That is true. But see my question below. (Do you demand the release of hostages, NOW?) nt

[leftstreet]

53. +1

[RandomNumbers]

133. Are you demanding Hamas to return the hostages? NOW?

(in the same breath?)

[TheKentuckian]

77. What other practical outcome might there be but supporting Hamas?

You might be demanding not only that they stay in control of Gaza but that their actions be rewarded, that they keep the hostages to torture, rape, and keep in bondage, and use as wicked leverage and that they be allowed to continue their attacks with absolute impunity.

I'd hate to see what support of Hamas might look like if that is opposition.

[womanofthehills]

82. They are not Hamas supporters-

Never before in their lives have they witnessed the slaughter of children on their phones every day.

[Mossfern]

97. The war in Iraq?

n/t

[Autumn]

101. That was 20 years ago.

n/t

[Mossfern]

106. I was assuming that you were alive 20 years ago

considering you protested the Viet Nam war.
I think your post said "never in my life"

on edit:
My bad - It was not you and it was "never in their lives."
It's on their cell phones because of the incredibly good propaganda machine that Hamas has.
Most of these young protesters get their news from Tic Tock

[Autumn]

111. When I went to the one in Denver there were young people, probably their early 20's. Point is probably

not all of them watched the Iraq war on TV.

[lapucelle]

123. ...

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[RandomNumbers]

135. Then why aren't they protesting the taking of hostages and the rape and murders committed by Hamas?

That is the cause of the suffering in Gaza.

Do you SERIOUSLY expect any politician to do NOTHING when a group does what Hamas did on Oct. 7?

To be clear, I do not support the WAY Netanyahu is doing it. Although I support Israel, I have long despised Netanyahu, and am not happy with him here. But he was a KNOWN FACTOR when Hamas performed their actions. They KNEW what would happen. THEY DID NOT CARE.

So stop f*cking complaining about Israel's actions and put the blame where it belongs.

When every hostage is returned - alive, or their dead bodies ( ) ; when the RAPISTS and MURDERERS are brought to justice; then there is a chance of talking about peace. Then when F*CKING NETANYAHU blocks the appropriate care for the children of this disaster - then it is time for Israelis to deal with him.

[lapucelle]

116. Apparently the "problem" some are protesting is what 1930's fascists called "The Jewish Problem".

‘F***king murderous kike’: Pro-Palestinian protesters accost Biden fundraiser attendees on NYC streets

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/fking-murderous-kike-pro-palestinian-protesters-accost-biden-fundraiser-attendees-on-nyc-streets/

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As for "presenting avenues of solutions, 1930's fascists had a name for that as well.

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Link to tweet

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[sarisataka]

121. 𝕰𝖓𝖉𝖑o𝖘𝖚𝖓𝖌 𝖉𝖊𝖗 𝕵𝖚𝖉𝖊𝖓𝖋𝖗𝖆𝖌𝖊

Last time it was 60% successful. These "people" would be happy to try again for 100%

[Autumn]

5. Why would they? Biden is the president. They are protesting to attempt to influence him to stop supporting Israel.

[DLCWIdem]

7. Which may be coming

They just reported that Netanyahu has said he may not be able to stop HAMAS. It's just a little but Every little bit helps

[Mossfern]

110. He's trying to stay in power

If Hamas is not defeated Netanyahu has a cause.
Things are not looking up for him or Likud. That would be one positive outcome of this war.

The sufferings of Gazans though is on Hamas.
Israel will defend itself.

[JohnSJ]

10. It isn't just up to the president. How about the republican majority in the House? How about the very real potential

the republican nominee could occupy the WH again?

Why aren't they protesting RFK jr. events?

"https://www.timesofisrael.com/2024-dark-horse-rfk-jr-questions-gaza-ceasefire-defends-israeli-offensive/amp/

“ LOS ANGELES, California (Reuters)- – Independent US presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. offered staunch support for Israel in a Reuters interview, calling it a “moral nation” that was justly responding to Hamas provocations with its attacks on Gaza and questioning the need for a six-week ceasefire backed by President Joe Biden.

Biden has also been a vocal defender of Israel since the October 7 attack by Hamas, but he has recently pressured the country to stem the humanitarian crisis in Gaza and accelerate a six-week ceasefire for hostage releases and aid delivery.”

“ Asked if he supported a temporary ceasefire in Gaza, Kennedy told Reuters: “I don’t even know what that means right now.”

Kennedy said that each previous ceasefire “has been used by Hamas to rearm, to rebuild and then launch another surprise attack. So what would be different this time?” he said.”

[Autumn]

12. Biden is the one who makes the decisions, the buck stops there. Protesting an

antihuman, antivax idiot would be a waste of time.

[shrike3]

13. How long do you think you'll be able to protest if Trump gets in?

[Autumn]

14. Not long. That why I use my First Amendment while I can. Never know when a fascist will get elected.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

You should try it sometime. There an old saying that applies. Use it or lose it. IMO that includes our rights.

[shrike3]

23. So you're aware your right to protest may be curtailed under Trump.

Okay. Anything that makes Biden look bad helps Trump. So I guess you don't mind having your right to protest curtailed that much. You also don't mind everyone else's rights curtailed, I would assume.

The fate of Palestinians would be sealed if Trump gets in. Guess you don't mind that, either.

[TheKentuckian]

75. You are wilfully facilitating that loss of rights.

to prop up mutilating rapists and murderers and are gleefully and feverishly working to make way for a real genocide.

If you are working for Chump, Putin, and Sinwar.

[Autumn]

79. If the Palestinians are committing a a "real genocide" it sure is backfiring on them. The death toll is very lopsided.

Which side is facing famine and starvation? Israelis or Palestinians? Are supplies being withheld from Israel?

You forgot to finish your throwaway sentience but I'll answer it I don't work for nobody. Just an average American who is sick and fucking tired of stupid people with fucking religious grudges going back fucking centuries while children fucking die.

[NickB79]

81. Hamas seriously miscalculated

They expected Iran, Hezbollah, and the larger Arab world to back them up in their decades-long quest to exterminate the Jews. They never thought they'd be hung out to dry like this.

And the Palestinian people are paying for it.

[Mossfern]

83. It is the mission of Hamas ,and implicit

in the Koran that people convert (revert) to Islam or die as infidels. Judaism does not proselytize, Israel has millions of people that are of other faiths and tons of atheists. This is not a religious war for Israel.

It is Hamas that wants to eradicate Israel and kill all Jews, yet you accuse Israel of committing "genocide." Palestinians would not be in the dire straights that they are if Hamas would surrender and return the hostages.

Israel has its own political housekeeping to do, but that can't happen as long as their neighbor is avowing to torture and murder them all.

[TheKentuckian]

104. That is the ambition.

You are correct that the attempt is seriously backfiring though.

If you cared about the children then you'd demand Hamas surrender and give up the hostages instead of trying to scuttle our nation.

[JohnSJ]

15. No, it isn't just Biden, Congress is involved also. As for RFK jr, he is a spoiler candidate, and according to polls is

getting about 10% support.

Of course these same protesters have no problem protesting individuals on college campuses, merchants, and other places with people who don't make decisions either, but that's ok?

[Autumn]

16. You don't seem to understand protesting or the constitutional right to do so. Or you ignore it.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

The Vietnam war protests were a blast.

[JohnSJ]

17. My point isn't against the protest, but an observation of their selective protests. They seem to be very selective

Democrats, bulling Jewish students on college campuses, and facilities owned by Jewish merchants such as this

https://abc7news.com/smitten-ice-cream-san-francisco-vandalized-pro-palestine-graffiti/13972158/

[Autumn]

21. As one who has protested a lot in my younger days you don't protest the people who don't give a fuck.

You protest the one in power. Only here, by the same people every time do I see anti protesting sentiment. Or on any christian or re[publican FB page . Would you protest Empty Greens office to get her to vote for abortion rights? talk about a waste of time.

[shrike3]

25. And ice cream parlor owners and Jewish college kids are in power, right?

[AZLD4Candidate]

43. Jew. . .Israeli. Same thing to these people

They'd throw us in ovens happily because they hate Jews. They didn't care about Oct 7th and never will because in their ANSWER minds, the 1200 deserved it.

[shrike3]

44. This whole thing really worries me.

I'm afraid of another "Tree of Life" situation.

I'm not Jewish, btw

[AZLD4Candidate]

46. I am and I've been victimized by is for many years.

[shrike3]

47. I'm sorry. eom

[Autumn]

72. Said no one ever. The OP I responded to were protesters protesting the President. He is in power.

[shrike3]

73. Said John SJ, in a post to you. He pointed out how protestors seem quite selective, targeting businesses at times

And making Jewish students feel uncomfortable on some campuses. You chose to ignore that part of his statement.

[Autumn]

74. I'm sure if their families were being bombed and starved they could protest Muslim students

and make them feel uncomfortable on some campuses too.

[Mossfern]

84. How many protests were there agains the 10/7 massacre?

When a ceasefire was in place?

How many Muslims Americans suffered?
The anti-Israel protests began before Israel responded at all.

Somehow some people seem to ignore this.

[sarisataka]

88. Protests? There were celebrations

And people flat out stating the victims deserved it.

[Mossfern]

89. Exactly!

No protests against Hamas commission of atrocities visited on Israelis during a ceasefire.
But it all the Joooos fault.

[Autumn]

90. There was no need for Israelis to protest. They had plenty of bombs ,rockets and other weapons and we sent them more.

[NickB79]

92. Only Israelis should protest the atrocities of 10/7? No.

Why weren't YOU and the rest of the Pro-Palestinian activists protesting Hamas on 10/8? Why is it implied that were Jewish lives were not worth protesting?

[Autumn]

96. Israel had the sympathy of the world. But Netanyahu has gone too far. Killing innocent people to get Hamas,

sending people to safety then bombing them caused a loss of goodwill towards them. Are Palestinians not worthy of being given food, water medical supplies and essentials?

[Mossfern]

93. People in the US are not Israelis

Remember, for you this is about 1st amendment rights.
The protesters we're talking about were the ones harassing people trying to attend a Biden fund raiser,

[shrike3]

99. So you couldn't care less if students who had nothing to do with Netanyahu's bombing Gaza

are made uncomfortable on your own campuses. At least you're honest.

[Autumn]

103. Are you saying that people here in this country that have friends and family in Gaza and are protesting had anything

do do with the attack on Israel?

[shrike3]

105. No. You did.

Here are your exact words.

"I'm sure if their families were being bombed and starved they could protest Muslim students
and make them feel uncomfortable on some campuses too."

Sounds like a suggestion to me.

[Mossfern]

112. Biden is not in power

in Israel.

[Autumn]

113. Biden is in power here, and he does wield some influence. Actually quite a lot.

[Mossfern]

117. Apparently not in Israel

and not with Netanyahu.
Ruining his fundraiser will not bend him to the protesters' will.

Again, the plight of Gazans is on Hamas, not Biden.

[shrike3]

26. A few of these folks seem delusional, quite frankly.

A group out of Michigan have made it plain their goal is to deny Biden a second term. They have no worries about Trump getting back in, seem to think they'll just be able to go on and do their thing.

We had the attack against the Tree of Life synagogue during Trump's term. My concern is we might have another.

[betsuni]

51. Footage of screaming obscenities and violence is scary. It IS delusional, like mob behavior.

[shrike3]

24. I wonder if Civil Rights marchers thought it was a blast when they got hoses or dogs set on them.

Though you do have the right to pursue your hobbies, I guess.

[Autumn]

58. So how should one protest? Sit at home and write lovely perfumed letters?

[shrike3]

68. You're the one who said protesting was a blast.

[Autumn]

71. Yeah I did and it was. It ended the Vietnam war. No matter how you look at it. That was a big fucking deal..

[shrike3]

102. And you had a blast. Unlike Civil Rights marchers who put their bodies on the line and risked their lives in

some cases. Gave their lives in some cases. They just didn't have a blast. foolish souls. If only they'd been white college kids .

[Autumn]

109. 58,220 soldiers died in Vietnam. There were martyrs in the civil rights movement. Neither takes away from the other.

“How do you ask a man to be the last man to die in Vietnam? How do you ask a man to be the last man to die for a mistake?”

“Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.”

The people protested and marched because what they saw was wrong.

By the way, it wasn't just white college kids protesting the war.

[shrike3]

114. Before you give yourself a medal, consider this:

We had direct involvement in Vietnam. We do not in Israel. Biden is not president of Israel. U.S. funds make up 15 percent of Israel's defense budget. Netanyahu has already indicated he will fight on with or without us. Biden cannot wave a magic wand to make him stop. Your protesting will have little to no impact on what happens to the Gazans ultimately. Trump, who may win, has indicated he'd prefer to let the conflict "play out." His SIL is talking about removing the Palestinians and building waterfront condos in Gaza. If Trump gets back in, the fate of the palestinian people will be sealed. Hope you're having a blast out there.

[betsuni]

139. +1

[Mossfern]

85. Take a hint from MLK Jr.

and Ghandi.
Those people were not merely protesting Biden, they were harassing people entering the venue with vile insults and physical pushing. That is not a protest.

My protests of the Viet Nam war were at peace-ins.

[betsuni]

95. Exactly.

[MichMan]

56. "The Vietnam war protests were a blast."

Some of those by the Weather Underground sure were.

[Autumn]

60. Yes of course, every anti war protester is a Marxist.

[betsuni]

50. Yes, Republicans control the House. For a moment I wondered if Congress had disappeared.

[LeftInTX]

62. They have their own presidential candidate. Claudia de la Cruz They're electioneering at Biden's event.

Link to tweet

?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

Here are their presidential candidates:

Link to tweet

They are anti-Democratic party, pure and simple. They're using the war to get siphon votes away from Biden to Claudia de la Cruz

[JustAnotherGen]

65. I wonder who is funding their little folly?

Seriously. And did they get the money up front?

[shrike3]

69. According to a Duer who was there, they were in the auditorium protesting while the event went on.

Those tickets were not cheap. Where'd they get that kind of money?

[lapucelle]

124. Putin-loving, Uyghur-genocide-denying, maoist, billionaire tech bro Neville Roy Singham & his wife Jodie Evans.

The American Multimillionaire Marxists Funding Pro-Palestinian Rage

Neville Roy Singham and his wife Jodie Evans are China propagandists—and a primary source of the fury exploding on our streets

https://www.thefp.com/p/american-marxists-funding-pro-palestinian-rage

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A Global Web of Chinese Propaganda Leads to a U.S. Tech Mogul

The Times unraveled a financial network that stretches from Chicago to Shanghai and uses American nonprofits to push Chinese talking points worldwide.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/05/world/europe/neville-roy-singham-china-propaganda.html

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Businessman Neville Roy Singham quietly sponsors an initiative opposing US assistance to Kyiv

https://www.intelligenceonline.com/corporate-intelligence/2022/11/11/businessman-neville-roy-singham-quietly-sponsors-an-initiative-opposing-us-assistance-to-kyiv,109863896-art

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The Big Business of Uyghur Genocide Denial

A New Lines investigation reveals a network of charities funneling millions into left-wing platforms that take Beijing’s side on the genocide allegations — and they’re all connected to an American tech magnate.

https://newlinesmag.com/reportage/the-big-business-of-uyghur-genocide-denial/

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"The People's Forum" is organizing and conducting anti-Israel protests across the country.



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Singham launders his funding of pro-Hamas, anti-Israel, anti-Biden "protests" through the Goldman Sachs Philanthropy Fund which distributes "charitable donations" at the direct request of donors.

The Influence Watch page on The People's Forum:

Funding

In 2019, The People’s Forum received $12 million through the Goldman Sachs Philanthropy Fund, a donor-advised fund provider. This was not the first time the Forum received a hefty sum in this manner: it was given $4,400,000 in 2018 and $2,500,000 in 2017 through the Philanthropy Fund.

https://www.influencewatch.org/non-profit/the-peoples-forum/

[JustAnotherGen]

130. Good stuff

You bring the receipts! I will read through these today.

[lapucelle]

126. Jodie Evans's Code Pink is behind the protests at Speaker Emerita Pelosi's home,

and Nancy has their number.

Pelosi protester faces felony charges over Gaza cease-fire demonstration

An activist affiliated with the anti-war group Code Pink is facing felony charges for causing damage around Speaker Emerita Nancy Pelosi’s San Francisco residence during a Feb. 11 demonstration.

snip============================

Last month, Code Pink circulated a video showing Pelosi telling a Code Pink protester, “Go back to China, where your headquarters is.”

Pelosi was referring to a New York Times investigation that revealed extensive ties between Code Pink’s co-founder, Jodie Evans, and groups promoting the agenda of the Chinese Communist Party.

That exchange took place on Oct. 29, coinciding with the one-year anniversary of the attack on Pelosi’s husband, Paul Pelosi, which left him hospitalized with severe injuries. The attacker, David DePape, told investigators he sought to hold Nancy Pelosi hostage.

https://sfstandard.com/2024/02/16/nancy-pelosi-cease-fire-protests-san-francisco-code-pink/

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According to a Code Pink blog post, the purpose of the October 29 protest was to "briefly hold Pelosi hostage."

A Code Pink spokesperson called the timing of the action to hold Speaker Emerita Pelosi hostage -- the one year anniversary of the hammer assault on Paul Pelosi by an assailant seeking to hold Nancy Pelosi hostage -- was an "unfortunate coincidence".

https://sfstandard.com/2024/02/16/nancy-pelosi-cease-fire-protests-san-francisco-code-pink/

[JustAnotherGen]

128. Ain't that some shit

How very far down code pink has fallen since the beginning of the Iraq War.

[lapucelle]

129. Amy Goodman of Theocracy Now! attended the Singham-Evans nuptials.

In 2017, Mr. Singham married Jodie Evans, a former Democratic political adviser and the co-founder of Code Pink. The wedding, in Jamaica, was a “Who’s Who” of progressivism. Photos from the event show Amy Goodman, host of “Democracy Now!”; Ben Cohen, co-founder of Ben & Jerry’s ice cream; and V, the playwright formerly known as Eve Ensler, who wrote “The Vagina Monologues.”

It was also a working event. The invitation described a panel discussion called “The Future of the Left.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/05/world/europe/neville-roy-singham-china-propaganda.html

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It's a cozy little circle, with Goodman's hyper-lucrative, third-party-amplifying "news" outlet stoking pro-terrorist, anti-Israel, anti-US messaging.

“Axis of Resistance”: Hamas, Hezbollah,Houthis Challenge U.S. & Israeli Power Amid Middle East Tension

[Turbineguy]

9. Paid crisis actors.

[H2O Man]

28. Hopefully!

Citizens exercising Amendment 1 peacefully is a good thing -- even if we disagree with them.

[shrike3]

30. As long as they don't contribute to rising anti-semitism in this country.

With the attacks we've had on Jewish-owned businesses, individuals and synagogues in recent years, I'm surprised no one brings that up.

Saw footage of a board meeting on the West Coast, and some of the rhetoric was anti-Jewish, not just anti-Israel. Granted, it was only one meeting.

[H2O Man]

36. Right.

Exactly why I wrote "peaceful." The rise of anti-Semitism is alarming, and unacceptable. Yet we have to be careful not to lump the majority of those protesting what Israel is doing in Gaza, with the few with moral rabies. One can support Israel and be horrified at what their current leader is doing -- Senator Chuck Schumer, being an obvious example.

[shrike3]

38. Hopefully, there won't be more rhetoric like I saw in recent footage.

It was just one event, a municipal meeting on the West Coast. Full of protestors, some of whom made anti-semitic slurs. Not anti-Israel, anti-semitic. Hopefully, people in the movement will call out protestors who go there. It could get ugly real fast.

[H2O Man]

42. There will be

brain-dead shitheads at these protests, and the media always focuses on the unhinged. (Anti-Semitism that is domestic is definitely using the horrors in Gaza to try to spread their poison message.) In this case, it might help those organizing such events to keep them from participating. Here on the East Coast, I know quite a few young people who participate in such events ..... including large ones, that are peaceful.

[B.See]

29. In answer to op: "Will these same protesters be..."

NO! They WON'T. Because they don't bother to protest against Trump or MAGAS who they KNOW don't give a flying fk about them. They just save that for Democrats.

[shrike3]

31. A group out of Michigan have made it plain their goal is to deny Biden a second term.

They think they'll be just fine under Trump.

[B.See]

33. Really? Because last I read, Trump & Co. were talking about....

...Gaza beachfront property.

[shrike3]

35. They were indeed talking about beachfront property.

People like those in Michigan are frankly delusional.

[LeftInTX]

100. Elected Democrats in Michigan are now anti-Biden

Including the mayor of Dearborn who was a Democrat in the Michigan legislature. You also have congresswomen Rashida Tlaib

[tritsofme]

32. They are Trump/Putin supporters, of course not.

[LeftInTX]

34. They certainly weren't at CPAC!

[Hekate]

37. As Joy Reid & Michael Steele noted, Trump & enablers wanted to shoot protestors. ...

Biden won’t order that protestors be shot. But it is sooooo important that we hound Dems off the stage by howling “Genocide Joe.”

Will the same ones show up at CPAC or RNC?

Yeah, no.

[shrike3]

39. Such protestors are blissfully confident nothing will happen to them during a Trump term.

[Hekate]

48. Especially the ones who are Muslim and Muslim-affiliated: no way would Trump bar them from entry...

…or round them up and send them to concentration camps (he was just joshing when he said that, and besides it is awful to take comments out of context) , and of course, he would never have protestors shot in the legs like he said that one time.

Blissfully moronic.

[AZLD4Candidate]

40. These people are more angry at Democrats than Republicans that instituted a muslim travel ban

These are astro-turf ANSWER people.

[Cha]

41. If the Fascists Takeover Will they

protest them then?

And, still Attack Jewish Students and Businesses?:

[Hekate]

49. Sounds like a plan, doesn't it?

[dalton99a]

45. Assholes and idiots

[Stuart G]

54. NO!!

[betsuni]

57. No way. Republicans are the peace party! Wheeeeeee!

I just saw a panel discussion from last year: in 1968 the issue against Johnson was the war in Vietnam and he didn't run for reelection. Question: what issue could be used against Biden in 2024? Most said age, but now it seems that "Genocide Joe" is a more useful attack against him for the time being. Some people are trying hard to turn the I/P situation into Vietnam/Iraq to depress the Democratic vote for whatever reason (helping Republicans or some weird emotional lust to punish Democrats).

[617Blue]

59. No because they are paid operatives.

[librechik]

63. This event is so effing cool. And these three people

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are IMO the three smartest people in leadership anywhere, any time. If any one can solve this demonic clusterfuck in Gaza, they can!

[JustAnotherGen]

64. Nope

They only wish to attack the Democratic Party. They know they would catch hell if they did something like this at a GOP Fundraiser.

[DFW]

66. They'll be where they're paid to be. It's no different over here.

A lot of the “far left” faded away when East Germany faded away, as their financial backing came almost exclusively from the “real existing socialism.”

[Takket]

67. Nope. Only Democrats are responsible for any problems, or expected to fix them.

[BannonsLiver]

70. The protesters are paid crisis actors and/or useful idiots for Hamas and are indirectly aiding Trump.

[AllaN01Bear]

76. no.

[Eko]

78. Not agreeing or disagreeing with them but

Protesting the republicans would be useless, not only do they not care they can’t get anything done anyways. Except for tax cuts and taking away people’s rights.

[JohnSJ]

86. Protesters interviewed made it clear they would not vote for Biden, so by

that logic, why wouldn’t they protest at republican gatherings?

They seem to have no problem protesting on college campuses, and harassing and bullying Jewish students on the campuses

I suggest they are not looking for change, they are looking for attention, since Since they won’t vote for Biden, and I assume they won’t vote for Trump either, though ironically they might actually help Trump like what happened in 2016.

[Eko]

87. Why would anyone

Think that the republicans first, care and second, are even capable of doing something about it if they did?

[JohnSJ]

108. Obviously they don't think Biden cares or they would vote for him. Logically it follows their protest only

serves to get attention, and in that case whether Democrat or republican, it would serve that protest.

[Eko]

118. You are making the assumption

That they won’t vote for him. Every protest is about getting attention. Let’s just for the argument say that you are a Democrat and don’t like Bidens position on Gaza, who is president and holds a lot of sway over US policies, would you protest the republicans or the Democrats?

[JohnSJ]

119. MSNBC was interviewing some of the protesters, and they made a point they absolutely would not vote for Biden

[Eko]

120. Sure, some of them. Some is not all.

Once again Let’s just for the argument say that you are a Democrat and don’t like Bidens position on Gaza, who is president and holds a lot of sway over US policies, would you protest the republicans or the Democrats?

[Mossfern]

122. I *am* a Democrat, and knowing that there's an extremely important election comin up

I would send a letter explaining my concerns, but I would certainly not publicly protest the candidate I hope will win. That would be self defeating.

[Eko]

136. Of course you are a Democrat.

I never said nor alluded that you weren’t. If you felt like that then I apologize. I just feel like you won’t look at it from any other point of view except yours. There are Israelis, Jewish Rabbis that are against the war and are protesting. If there can be that can there not also be Democrats against the war and protesting? Right or wrong?

[Mossfern]

137. I just think it more prudent

that protesting be postponed until President Biden is successful in his reelection bid. Hopefully he will win and I won't complain one tiny bit about protesters calling for a ceasefire or whatever, whether I agree with the protestors or not.

This particular demonstration could not only be damaging to his campaign, but will not change Netanyahu's mind.

Netanyahu wants Trump to win and these protesters are playing right into his hands.

[Eko]

138. I'm with you.

But that is just what I “think”. I have been here for a bit and one thing I’ve learned is that there are all kinds of Democrats. Some anti war ones that would undoubtedly protest a war that our president is helping to supply. Nothing wrong with that at all. Shoot, I think John Kerry when he was young may have protested this. There is a lot to this, it’s not anywhere close to black and white. For all I know you could be Jewish and one of your family members could have been killed there or I could be Palestinian and one of mine could have. We could both be Democrats and be 100% opposite on this. But we can’t devolve to where we are using the no true Scotsman fallacy. Like I said, I’m with you. After the election would be way better, but I’m not them.

[maxrandb]

125. Did Presidents Biden, Obama and Clinton

tell the crowd to "knock the shit out of them", or offer to pay the crowds legal bills if they were charged with assaulting the protesters?

Asking for a friend.

[Bucky]

127. You realize that when we fight for democracy, we're fighting for their rights too?

Innocent civilians are being slaughtered by one of our closest allies. Why would you have a problem with people speaking out against that?

[lapucelle]

132. What makes anyone think that the anti-Biden, anti-Jew protestors are "fighting for democracy"?

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[gulliver]

131. The cowardly, lazy, and ignorant only protest people they know won't fight with them.

It's classic psychology.