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ProudMNDemocrat

(17,293 posts)
Fri Mar 29, 2024, 10:00 AM Mar 29

Battle heats up over proposed federal funding for Baltimore bridge

Where was the Conservative outrage when the Biden Administration told Gov. DeSantis and Republican Congressional delegation that the Federal Government would do all it could to help Floridians rebuild after Hurricane Ian a few years ago? Oh yeah! There was no outrage! I wonder why?

Now we have the same Conservatives with their panties in a bunch over a bridge destroyed in an accident that is vital to exporting and importing of goods, as well as the Economy. What is the difference here?


The battle over Congress’s role in repairing a landmark bridge in Baltimore is already heating up on Capitol Hill, just days after it collapsed.

President Biden vowed Tuesday that the federal government would cover the massive cost of rebuilding the Francis Scott Key Bridge, a major artery feeding the Port of Baltimore, one of the busiest shipping lanes in the country. The bridge was struck by a cargo ship, almost 1,000 feet long, that lost power as it was leaving Baltimore Harbor and drifted into a support pile in the early hours of Tuesday morning.

Biden’s proposal is already winning praise from a number of Democrats, especially those in Maryland, who say the port’s value transcends the state, making the repairs an issue of national importance.

Only the federal government, they argue, has the resources to accomplish the task.

Yet the idea has sparked an immediate backlash from conservative spending hawks, who are already up in arms over Congress’s recent approval of a massive 2024 spending package and maintain that Washington simply can’t afford to pile more money onto the national debt.

More at....[link:https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4562537-battle-heats-up-over-proposed-federal-funding-for-baltimore-bridge/|
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Battle heats up over proposed federal funding for Baltimore bridge (Original Post) ProudMNDemocrat Mar 29 OP
Republicans idea of making America great again? Emile Mar 29 #1
Get the bill written and see a vote. jimfields33 Mar 29 #9
Yet these same people will approve TRILLIONS added to the National Debt.... ProudMNDemocrat Mar 29 #2
We can't afford it. Cruz wants us to pay to have Homeland Security protect repugs Wonder Why Mar 29 #3
He wants us to pay for his airport escorts too. Emile Mar 29 #7
We never hear any squawking when tornados rip thru some red state 617Blue Mar 29 #4
Don't GOPers have a likely GOP add on the Senate side coming out of Maryland? Prairie Gates Mar 29 #5
The other night on Alex Wagner's show, she pointed that out about.... ProudMNDemocrat Mar 29 #8
Don't forget to send the ship owner a bill dalton99a Mar 29 #6
The shipping company and their insurance company should pay GregariousGroundhog Mar 29 #10
Insurance company Ontheboundry Mar 29 #11
Hey, replacing this bridge would be good for America. Biophilic Mar 29 #12
Why wouldn't the shipping company pay for it? Groundhawg Mar 29 #13
This is a matter of timing Ritabert Mar 29 #14
Don't see where Maersk gladium et scutum Mar 29 #21
### Ritabert Mar 29 #15
There are fights over funding highway bridges every Congress. maxsolomon Mar 29 #16
Pre-Key Bridge, RobinA Mar 29 #17
No, not in America. maxsolomon Mar 29 #18
What's a "freeway"? On the East coast, we have these roads called "highways" ... Earth-shine Mar 29 #20
Spending hawks? Are they really going to continue propping up this myth? EleanorR Mar 29 #19

jimfields33

(16,767 posts)
9. Get the bill written and see a vote.
Fri Mar 29, 2024, 10:55 AM
Mar 29

It will pass the house if all democratic house members vote and they need 3 or 4 repugs to vote for it. That’s doable. But get a vote done.

ProudMNDemocrat

(17,293 posts)
2. Yet these same people will approve TRILLIONS added to the National Debt....
Fri Mar 29, 2024, 10:04 AM
Mar 29

in the form of TAX CUTS for the Billionaire/Millionaire class because they are paying way too much in taxes as it is and the rest of us are NOT paying enough! With the same breath, they are screaming Democratic SOCIALISM is EVIL!

Give me a fucking break!

Wonder Why

(3,675 posts)
3. We can't afford it. Cruz wants us to pay to have Homeland Security protect repugs
Fri Mar 29, 2024, 10:18 AM
Mar 29

from embarrassment when they travel to Cancun during a crisis.

Prairie Gates

(1,272 posts)
5. Don't GOPers have a likely GOP add on the Senate side coming out of Maryland?
Fri Mar 29, 2024, 10:23 AM
Mar 29

Do they want to write the Dem ads themselves?

ProudMNDemocrat

(17,293 posts)
8. The other night on Alex Wagner's show, she pointed that out about....
Fri Mar 29, 2024, 10:34 AM
Mar 29

Larry Hogan, former Governor of Maryland...

Wagner pointed out that this could be a sticking point for Hogan if he is running on deficit reduction and Tax Cuts for the very rich at a time when the total economic and transportation impact of Maryland is at stake. He can say he stood up to Trump, but can he say he will NOT stand up for the people of Maryland and do what McConnell tells him to do?

I would rather be the Democrat running for the US Senate than Larry Hogan.

GregariousGroundhog

(7,541 posts)
10. The shipping company and their insurance company should pay
Fri Mar 29, 2024, 11:05 AM
Mar 29

I don't mind if the federal goverment stands up an infrastructure project to organize the reconstruction, but they need to subrogate the costs to the parties at fault for bringing the original bridge down.

Ontheboundry

(156 posts)
11. Insurance company
Fri Mar 29, 2024, 11:08 AM
Mar 29

For the ship owner, would they not be on the hook for most of this? I know it has to get paid by someone, but they did it, so let's see if we can get a rich company to pay for it instead of hard-working Americans who didn't ram the boat into the bridge (again). This wasn't this boats first collision

Biophilic

(3,901 posts)
12. Hey, replacing this bridge would be good for America.
Fri Mar 29, 2024, 11:08 AM
Mar 29

No wonder the republicans are against it. They have their values and standards to maintain.

Ritabert

(690 posts)
14. This is a matter of timing
Fri Mar 29, 2024, 11:17 AM
Mar 29

The channel needs to be cleared ASAP. The shipping company, Maersk (who chartered the ship) and the insurance company will end up paying but it will take time. The US has plenty of leverage as in banning Maersk ships from US ports until the bill is paid.

gladium et scutum

(810 posts)
21. Don't see where Maersk
Fri Mar 29, 2024, 04:25 PM
Mar 29

has any responsibility for the incident. They were not the owners of the ship, they were not the operators of the ship. No Maersk employee was aboard the ship at the time. They chartered the Dali to carry containers. Is the owners of the ship and their insurers that have the responsibility to pay for the damages and costs.

maxsolomon

(33,642 posts)
16. There are fights over funding highway bridges every Congress.
Fri Mar 29, 2024, 12:26 PM
Mar 29

It isn't the 60s & 70s when these things got thrown up right and left to spur suburban growth.

How long has it taken to agree on funding for the I-5 Columbia crossing? A decade?

NOT rebuilding this bridge should be an option. There are other freeways in Baltimore - and rail lines. Freight isn't going to be paralyzed without this circle freeway link.

RobinA

(9,961 posts)
17. Pre-Key Bridge,
Fri Mar 29, 2024, 01:08 PM
Mar 29

Baltimore was a major Northeast choke point for North/South through road travel. And that was in the '70's. We're talking people crawling through tunnels and traffic at a standstill well before the portals. I have a feeling that not replacing it will not be an option.

maxsolomon

(33,642 posts)
18. No, not in America.
Fri Mar 29, 2024, 01:13 PM
Mar 29

Freeways are a God-given right in this country.

But vehicle traffic WILL adapt until the replacement is available.

 

Earth-shine

(4,044 posts)
20. What's a "freeway"? On the East coast, we have these roads called "highways" ...
Fri Mar 29, 2024, 02:04 PM
Mar 29

on which we pay ever-increasing tolls.

The tolls are supposed to pay for things like repairing bridges and roads, but those funds are often taken into the larger government budget.

"Freeway" sounds so anti-capitalist.

EleanorR

(2,424 posts)
19. Spending hawks? Are they really going to continue propping up this myth?
Fri Mar 29, 2024, 01:40 PM
Mar 29

Republicans don't care about spending or deficits, unless of course there's a Democrat in the white house.

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